Author

Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 343. (Read 661499 times)

hero member
Activity: 621
Merit: 507
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Hi there! Just want to check my status as a stakeholder of NEM. I noticed only today that I'm not qualified and was quite shocked Shocked Can you check it out plz? I'm №1498 on the 2nd page and it seems like I didn't satisfy the conditions: had to send 350NXT beeing on the 3rd page of the 2nd registration thread instead of 300NXT... yeah, my mistake, but I'll tell you why I did so:

1) First I left a message on the page 91 of the 1st registration thread and I was one of the last guys there, some of which were also sending 300NXT. Here it is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4843010

2) 300NXT were sent because in the 1st thread in the very beginning (page 1) you can find this:
Quote
How to join after page 80. Two ways

1. Pay a fee to join in
   
    Send 300 NXT to the address      14343293611098709683
    Send 0.03 BTC to the address    1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
  So I did exactly the same thing. Sent 300, not 350..

3) Later on I got a reply from the utopianfuture himself on the same page:
Quote from: utopianfuture
Hi we moved to a new thread. Check the above post. Make a post in a new thread with your transaction I'd. Thanks.
My mistake I just copied my message to the 2nd registation thread and left the transaction as it is. You can find it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4846101

So is there any chance now to get an approved condition? I can send some more NXT if needed  Huh

This is getting out of hand....

YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2
hero member
Activity: 621
Merit: 507
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
Hi there! Just want to check my status as a stakeholder of NEM. I noticed only today that I'm not qualified and was quite shocked Shocked Can you check it out plz? I'm №1498 on the 2nd page and it seems like I didn't satisfy the conditions: had to send 350NXT beeing on the 3rd page of the 2nd registration thread instead of 300NXT... yeah, my mistake, but I'll tell you why I did so:

1) First I left a message on the page 91 of the 1st registration thread and I was one of the last guys there, some of which were also sending 300NXT. Here it is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4843010

2) 300NXT were sent because in the 1st thread in the very beginning (page 1) you can find this:
Quote
How to join after page 80. Two ways

1. Pay a fee to join in
   
    Send 300 NXT to the address      14343293611098709683
    Send 0.03 BTC to the address    1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
  So I did exactly the same thing. Sent 300, not 350..

3) Later on I got a reply from the utopianfuture himself on the same page:
Quote from: utopianfuture
Hi we moved to a new thread. Check the above post. Make a post in a new thread with your transaction I'd. Thanks.
My mistake I just copied my message to the 2nd registation thread and left the transaction as it is. You can find it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4846101

So is there any chance now to get an approved condition? I can send some more NXT if needed  Huh
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
I'll send you one if you remind me.

I was just kidding. It just gets a little annoying after the 10th time....
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Hi,

I sent 0.075 BTC but my pseudo is not in the stakeholder list. Why? What should I do?

You are there. No. 2968 of T2.

Im going to start collecting 1 NEM for every person that can't use the search function.

Maybe you should post it in big letters right on top of the list. Say CTRL + F to search, and tabs on the bottom for different threads, groups, etc.
legendary
Activity: 861
Merit: 1010
Hi,

I sent 0.075 BTC but my pseudo is not in the stakeholder list. Why? What should I do?

You are there. No. 2968 of T2.

Im going to start collecting 1 NEM for every person that can't use the search function.
Sorry, didn't see there was several pages in the doc.

I'll send you one if you remind me.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
Something that should (read must) be done is the following. We must organize as a community the pre-launch promoting campaign regarding nem. I mean here that in the Trello board we have the required stuff like all the social media, charity ideas, logo board and etc. All these things must be synchronized before the launch. We will need a comprehensive NEM marketing plan including social media and blogs, (possible) advertising and charity campaigns.

I haven't asked Utopian about this (Utopian you reading this?), but I think something like this has to be done anyways, and there could be a lot of help if somebody started working on it.

Now I think the timetable could be something like 2 weeks before the launch that we start the campaign. Now I've got too much work atm to start building it up completely, but if somebody does the main work I can consult and help when needed. Just to give some ideas you can check out the NMAC IPO filing and the marketing plan in pages 18-25, where I wrote a similar plan for a mobile app:

https://mega.co.nz/#!KdITnBIB!PW_sWdyNi7IGWC_VYSSO9Ki8ja6RC2YTpW20VrEshh4 (direct download of the IPO filing)
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3313.0.html (link to IPO thread just in case)

E

I couldn't agree more! (apart from the two weeks , isn't this a little too long Huh
There is no point in attracting people in advance IMO, they may loose interest by the time the genesis block is launched. Undecided
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Hi,

I sent 0.075 BTC but my pseudo is not in the stakeholder list. Why? What should I do?

You are there. No. 2968 of T2.

Im going to start collecting 1 NEM for every person that can't use the search function.
legendary
Activity: 861
Merit: 1010
Hi,

I sent 0.075 BTC but my pseudo is not in the stakeholder list. Why? What should I do?
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com


Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...
Dont takr
In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?
Sorry to be a bore but i don't really like any. Just looks a bit tatty and to much on the eye. I like clean looking its just my opinion ok your doing well .
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com


Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...

In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?

I think there is too much text in the website.

I personally like clean websites. Like this one I made for NXT once;

http://ilgunf.wix.com/nxtmovement

Also the buttons on top of the website are not noticable (Home, about, community etc.). I noticed them after 3 visites to the website.

So my advice is to keep it very simple and readable for everyone.
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 253
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com


Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...

In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?
full member
Activity: 165
Merit: 104
time to praise:
UP & all the Dev-Team members, youre doing a wonderfull job!
I'm really amazed.
good day Smiley

+1 ,Devs are doing great job,we all should aprreciate that.

+1 yeah for sure, but UP please use us non-programmers members more. Some of us are itching to do more , I am sure there must be lawers, doctors, merchants, students , engineers and lots of other professionals. Surely there must be something we can come up with that could help NEM.

Now these are my thoughts (nothing official) and If anybody feels like contributing more:

Something that should (read must) be done is the following. We must organize as a community the pre-launch promoting campaign regarding nem. I mean here that in the Trello board we have the required stuff like all the social media, charity ideas, logo board and etc. All these things must be synchronized before the launch. We will need a comprehensive NEM marketing plan including social media and blogs, (possible) advertising and charity campaigns.

I haven't asked Utopian about this (Utopian you reading this?), but I think something like this has to be done anyways, and there could be a lot of help if somebody started working on it.

Now I think the timetable could be something like 2 weeks before the launch that we start the campaign. Now I've got too much work atm to start building it up completely, but if somebody does the main work I can consult and help when needed. Just to give some ideas you can check out the NMAC IPO filing and the marketing plan in pages 18-25, where I wrote a similar plan for a mobile app:

https://mega.co.nz/#!KdITnBIB!PW_sWdyNi7IGWC_VYSSO9Ki8ja6RC2YTpW20VrEshh4 (direct download of the IPO filing)
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3313.0.html (link to IPO thread just in case)

E
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink



sorry for asking a newbie question?  Smiley but why is it important for small accounts to run their nodes. Is it not enough for big accounts to run the system, they are forging all the fees anyway.

How does the POI system work anyway, Who or what determines which node is more important. Will it be possible in NEM for a person with 100 NEM to forge more then a person with 10000 NEM?

It depends on a couple of factors and I think the details e.g. balance between factors aren't 1000% worked out yet.

The amount of NEM you own will still be a factor. Also it will be a factor how much you actually use NEM. If you buy 100000 NEM but never make a single transaction your not going to get very far in terms of forging. It will also depend on what kind of node you are running. If you are running a client node you're not as important to the network as if you're running a server node which holds the entire blockchain.

That sounds great!

 do I need expensive hardware to run the a server node? I mine litecoins, can I use my rig to run a node, is gpu relevent? Do I need a highquality hardrive  as it is with emunie? Would bandwith speed be a factor in forging? sorry for asking so many questions, but I really would like to try running a server node?

Would electricity cost be a factor? my country has one of the cheapest power cost in Asia I think.



It'll probably be like nxt in terms of hardware requirements so really low.


It would be awesome to forge without high-end-hardware similar to NXT-forging. I'm a real follower of NEM in regard to unfair distribution of NXT.

hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink

I don't believe that the issue has really taken 2 months to admit the fact (and its consequences) Smiley

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.0.html


What does securing the network when pools are in the picture have to do with what you guys are talking about?    Huh

ok, didn't noticed the details .. thought that the main issue was - again - the incentives of forging.


hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink



sorry for asking a newbie question?  Smiley but why is it important for small accounts to run their nodes. Is it not enough for big accounts to run the system, they are forging all the fees anyway.

How does the POI system work anyway, Who or what determines which node is more important. Will it be possible in NEM for a person with 100 NEM to forge more then a person with 10000 NEM?

It depends on a couple of factors and I think the details e.g. balance between factors aren't 1000% worked out yet.

The amount of NEM you own will still be a factor. Also it will be a factor how much you actually use NEM. If you buy 100000 NEM but never make a single transaction your not going to get very far in terms of forging. It will also depend on what kind of node you are running. If you are running a client node you're not as important to the network as if you're running a server node which holds the entire blockchain.

That sounds great!

 do I need expensive hardware to run the a server node? I mine litecoins, can I use my rig to run a node, is gpu relevent? Do I need a highquality hardrive  as it is with emunie? Would bandwith speed be a factor in forging? sorry for asking so many questions, but I really would like to try running a server node?

Would electricity cost be a factor? my country has one of the cheapest power cost in Asia I think.



It'll probably be like nxt in terms of hardware requirements so really low.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink



sorry for asking a newbie question?  Smiley but why is it important for small accounts to run their nodes. Is it not enough for big accounts to run the system, they are forging all the fees anyway.

How does the POI system work anyway, Who or what determines which node is more important. Will it be possible in NEM for a person with 100 NEM to forge more then a person with 10000 NEM?

It depends on a couple of factors and I think the details e.g. balance between factors aren't 1000% worked out yet.

The amount of NEM you own will still be a factor. Also it will be a factor how much you actually use NEM. If you buy 100000 NEM but never make a single transaction your not going to get very far in terms of forging. It will also depend on what kind of node you are running. If you are running a client node you're not as important to the network as if you're running a server node which holds the entire blockchain.

That sounds great!

 do I need expensive hardware to run the a server node? I mine litecoins, can I use my rig to run a node, is gpu relevent? Do I need a highquality hardrive  as it is with emunie? Would bandwith speed be a factor in forging? sorry for asking so many questions, but I really would like to try running a server node?

Would electricity cost be a factor? my country has one of the cheapest power cost in Asia I think.

newbie
Activity: 61
Merit: 0
time to praise:
UP & all the Dev-Team members, youre doing a wonderfull job!
I'm really amazed.
good day Smiley
+1
full member
Activity: 183
Merit: 100
TDTPJR-P5SGXY-UU2OS6-BPTUV4-NJYQFT-6CWYZP-IA2W
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink



sorry for asking a newbie question?  Smiley but why is it important for small accounts to run their nodes. Is it not enough for big accounts to run the system, they are forging all the fees anyway.

How does the POI system work anyway, Who or what determines which node is more important. Will it be possible in NEM for a person with 100 NEM to forge more then a person with 10000 NEM?

It depends on a couple of factors and I think the details e.g. balance between factors aren't 1000% worked out yet.

The amount of NEM you own will still be a factor. Also it will be a factor how much you actually use NEM. If you buy 100000 NEM but never make a single transaction your not going to get very far in terms of forging. It will also depend on what kind of node you are running. If you are running a client node you're not as important to the network as if you're running a server node which holds the entire blockchain.

That sounds great!
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Interesting discussion in NXT thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356613

It seems they realize that 100% POS coin concept is not enough as it
does not give any incentive to users with low account balance to run the node.
I see some influence of "NON INNOVATIVE" PON / POI concept here Wink



sorry for asking a newbie question?  Smiley but why is it important for small accounts to run their nodes. Is it not enough for big accounts to run the system, they are forging all the fees anyway.

How does the POI system work anyway, Who or what determines which node is more important. Will it be possible in NEM for a person with 100 NEM to forge more then a person with 10000 NEM?

It depends on a couple of factors and I think the details e.g. balance between factors aren't 1000% worked out yet.

The amount of NEM you own will still be a factor. Also it will be a factor how much you actually use NEM. If you buy 100000 NEM but never make a single transaction your not going to get very far in terms of forging. It will also depend on what kind of node you are running. If you are running a client node you're not as important to the network as if you're running a server node which holds the entire blockchain.
Jump to: