Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 435. (Read 661525 times)

There are no new rules.

4. How could you prevent multiple buy-ins ?

In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts. We also want you to have the ability to buy a NEM stake for your loved ones so they could all join the movement. However accumulating many NEM stakes goes against NEM's principles of fairness and equality, therefore the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered.

NEM Flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/ Take a closer look at the series of mvag NEM logo as they are smaller in size but they are pretty good with many variations.

I somewhat agree. I mean we got the slogan. "New Economy Movement". There's always "No envy Movement" in the room but I think we shout shoot that horse in the face since it'll remind people of the whole stake thing and how unfair it was and bla bla bla.

Logo...hmmm...did we collect em all yet ? Has everyone uploaded his Logo to that gallery utopian postet a couple days ago ?
Let's wait until wednesday to give the fellas reading this a little time to upload everything and then we can commence a vote. (plenty of possibilites online)

It'd be cool to get something done. Progress always motivates

@Utopian: Could you post that gallery again ? It's lost in the realm of 50 previous pages

I think it's pretty vital we decide on a logo and slogan now and stick to it.

Once this has been done, the NEM brand can be fully established and implemented on the forums/websites/advertisements which will pop up quite soon into the future. It will help enormously to promote NEM and to spread word about it.

The thing is; how do we, as a community, decide on a logo? A poll? Or will it just be chosen by the devs? Whatever it is, it should happen fairly soon.

Thank you for your great response! I think most NEMsters should read utopians post above, for it clarifies many things that are been talked about here.

So I take it there will be a discussion about nemcoin.com and the forums when the time comes and you'll be in touch if our help is needed.

Looking forward to the development plan !

There will be refunds for big-multi-accounters. The goal is to distribute the stakes widely and evenly (but not perfectly even)

You're going to be running taint analysis on the stake buys and booting out multi-stakers? I bought more than a few shares myself but as instructed I used new accounts and sent from different addresses. Prior from what I just read, I understood this was acceptable. Or will it be retro-d in?

Will my money as well as others doing the same be honored or thrown put and will there be refunds issued? I just need to clear this up.

he will do it when the time comes.

Has anyone talked to Graviton yet regarding selling NEM on dgex ?

Thanks for making these two sites. It is looking good to me. I especially like the latter which could easily be the front page for nemcoin.org, nemcoin.info or nemcoin.com. I think that we will have our own forum when the community is big enough, probably when we officially launch the blockchain. I have no interest of running a forum and I assume core developers would prefer not doing it themselves so I think we would naturally migrate to a forum built by a NEM founder/ stakeholder as the time comes. But it is also an important decision because it could be the face of NEM and if the development team can't find a place they can trust to deliver NEM's messages, then we will make our own forum.

It is the same to nemcoin.com, nemcoi.org, nemcoin.info; I have bought all these three but I prefer not to run them or run only one so I will transfer them to a coupe of NEM founders/ stakeholders who are capable of running them and doing them justice. But these decisions would be decided later when the community already have sometimes together and we can make a better informed decisions on whom doing the best for NEM.

NEM community is still very young but I am overwhelmed by the supports from many people so far. The big day we are targeting is the launch of our blockchain, probably a few months in the future. NEM's model is different from other cryptos. All cryptos so far  launches the blockchain first and then develop community and build supporting sites and services and then continue growing. For POW coin, it works well since mining activities help distributing the coins gradually to many people as the coins grows. But the POW coins have some unsolvable problems such as the domination of mining industry, inefficient energy usage which makes the real cost of Bitcoin transaction is actually much higher than many people realizes. Bitcoin's model can still work only because the transaction fee is still funded by yearly coin inflation but it will not be the case in the future.

So I think we need to move to Proof of Stake coin which is a self-sufficient network which has a long-term sustainability. But the conventional launch does not work so well with a pure proof-of-stake coin as all the coin distribution has to be made at the launch. Hybird POW/ POS such as Peercoin could be a solution but they are  not escaping the influence of the existing mining industry so I have a more radical idea of "parallel development".  The core development progresses along side with community and user base building. Supporting sites, forum and brand awareness are also developed simultaneously. The goal is that we will start the blockchain with a huge user base and a relatively equal distribution. The blockchain could then take-off very fast after launch and go to a sustainable trajectory. I am lucky to have the helps of a very talented team of core developers so at this point I am confident that NEM would materialize and successfully create its own space in crypto industry. Jaguar will deliver a detail development plan this weekend and you will see why I can be that confident.

So that's my plan. Join in and contribute to NEM' success if you are a founder/ stakeholder. Naturally there would be some kind of imbalance between the technical development and promotional development at times, but my goal is to have both sides well developed when we launch NEM's blockchain.    
  

By the way Utopianfuture would you look at the forums we've made (http://nemcoin.userboard.net/) and the nemcoin.com (http://stylebox.wix.com/nemcoin) page model I PM'd you yesterday and let me know If we should develop them more or if you don't want us for some reason to do these pages. Please note that both the websites are under construction, and not complete, but that only the site outlook has been created. We'd gladly add more content but it seems to be a waste of time unless we get approval that these websites will become used!

It's taken already hours of work creating both sites and it's only reasonable that you give us an answer. And btw if you're not aware the website developers are shantell and me. We already have experience in creating online retailing websites and also websites for real-life businesses so we're confident that we'll manage this.

+1

I trust utopianfuture 100%. I've seen he's contribution to the NXT community and I know he's got enough NXT not to have a reason to scam 40 BTC and lose his reputation.

Everyone who demands for proof of legitimacy needs to realize that we're still only at the beginning. It's a long way to the finish line!

Pat I am sorry for that last sentence . Did not mean it. We should be focusing on more important stuff that might actually give NEM a chance to succeed.

We all know the potential reward if NEM is a success ergo our reason for being here.You are not exactly calming the situation down with that patronizing post. We would "appreciate" updates we are not "demanding" it. Those two posters obviously are not fluent in English and off course you are not kissing it .

Okay so appearantly we're seeing the down side of getting a lot of crypto-newbies in.
I can see how the crypto world could be somewhat confusing and intimidating to people that invested money here for the first time but you will need to realize something very quickly:

If you invest money in a new project you are trusting a complete stranger with it. He may give you daily updates, he may give you monthly updates or he may run away with your money and kill your cat on the way. This is the way things work in this world.
Would I wan't daily updates ? Sure ! Will I request them ? No !
I trusted utopian and the rest of the team with my money and now I have to wait and see what comes out of it - That's how it works.

Also it's not like we're completely in the dark. He has given updates and Jaguar just said that he'll be releasing the development plan as soon as it's done. - What more do you wan't ?
Would it be better if they told you every day that "Work is in progress" ?

About the guy utopian refunded. Utopian calls to shot on this project regarding marketing, fundraising and what not. He'll do as he sees fit. Don't you guys have jobs ? What would your boss do if you did something that he didn't like ?

For all the risk you are taking you are getting a huge chance in return. Imagine NEM would have the same success as NXT does. You would have paid around 50 bucks to get them multiplied and multiplied for doing exactly nothing on your part.

I'm really not trying to kiss anyones ass it's just getting a little boring listening to the newbies cry for updates.

It's not Your favorite submission?  Well fret not, it looks like the entry period to the contest has closed.

are you serious?

 agreed. utopianfuture  should give us daily progress report on development and rough golive date for NEM

I found his questions to development also not bad, on the contrary! I'm waiting Anyway here when I go in, after news and in all the weeks there was nothing except the discus ion on multiple accounts.
But I am now curious on the news this weekend as they were promised.
But let the developers work in silence, we have time to develop good but what creates trust and also reported on something new.

Incidentally must utopianfuture not his private data release that is correct but he also asked those who know him personally from the forum until now, no one has yet reported.

Dear Utopianfuture but that you also often advertised that you are in some well known.

Best wishes and curious what is there to report on the weekend

I think my English is more than bad so I do not write often but I hope you can read it and understand

utopianfuture do you plan to kick out any stakeholder who asks about actual progress of the project?  I thought u wanted to start a egalitarian movement here. the man raised valid questions a lot of stakeholders are actually interested in knowing. progress updates would be appreciated by all stakeholders and reduce FUD instead of threats to return investment.

Very very well done. This is the best proposed logo I have seen not only for NEM but all other cryptos. It just stands out and commands your attention.