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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 437. (Read 661525 times)

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just read,  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--454001   funny guy    Grin

WHAT A SCAMMER THERE  Cry
Dont send bitcoin to that guys address, I think this is the original post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.1080
sr. member
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Relax, this things is only a couple of weeks old, and you're acting as if you hired this team to do a personal project for you. You're yelling at them as if you're their boss and they're beneath you. Like I always say, be grateful for the opportunity that you know about a project that has potential. To me you sound worse than a person with multiple stakes.

Here I am grateful for this group, while here's a person that sound so arrogant. Don't know if you are and you just sound that way, but truly worse than someone with 10+ stakes. Unless that person also has a similar character.

I didn't think he was that arrogant.  He asked basic questions.  I too wonder why the development plan is only going to be seen by the development team ?

j23a, you are a bit naive.  So many of things like this will be scams.  He had a very good point, when you see increased fundraising (paying for ads) but no actual work, investor should be worried.  He then asked for some level of reassurance while NEM gets money at an increased rate.  He got a completely defensive and nasty response from a guy who is holding a lot of money.

He wasn't yelling or anything like that.  He was looking out for the interests of NEM stakeholders by asking a few questions.  They weren't even tough questions.  He just wanted reassurances of some kind.  *Basic* transparency.

I will google the names because apparently the research is easy.

Personally only reason I am thinking this isn't a scam is because attention put forth to catch multi-accounters.  That doesn't seem like anything a scammer would do because it doesn't really benefit them. 

However, after this kicking the guy out for asking to see development plan, I really am concerned. 
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In   How to join    instructions is said :

After you send the fee, include the transaction hash in your reply post in this thread, to confirm your stake reservation.


What information that hash contains?
Can I prove that my hash is only mine, if someone takes the same hash and says that he sent the bitcoins?

newbie
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Hi all!!
I would like to make the official website for nemcoin.com
And also if I can make a prototype for a blockexplorer on nemcoin.info
For who I have to write to do these thing?  Smiley

WalkingDev
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I think we are opening a can of worms here.  

If we are going to question everything, why not question the first 20 pages where you can just paste  interested and you get a stake.  How do we prove there is no multi accounter there?

Or how do we weed out the multi-accters in the thread 1 where you can just fund via the exchange?

In my view, what is happening here is we are doing selective persecution.  We are persecuting the late comers vs those early ones when it seems like free-for-all.

Is it because we are already in the thread 1, so we don't want as much people to come in and so, we are starting to persecute those that are in thread 2? (I am registered in thread 1, one of the early few)

Let us focus instead on getting the source code up!  Or our investment will all go to waste.  This is becoming a MOST ENVY MOVEMENT.

Just my two cents.


Yes, well said.  The first pages people had to do nothing.  Anyone who had multiple accounts could sign them all up and now they are not being questioned.  These are the guys who showed the least dedication.  They invested nothing so they care not if it fails.  Unfortunately some people are not able to read bitcointalk.org constantly so they had to invest money instead.

This place is pump and dump central.  There must had been lots of guys with multiple accounts ready to go.  So all the shady dudes who invested nothing but the labor for 1 login (to post) are able to have unlimited stakes at beginning.  This witchhunt will do little.  I think rules have been laid down and are adequate.  Anyone spending 4 hours just to make first post to then pay for stake seems fairly dedicated to me.  Yet we ignore guys who did nothing but post under their already existing multiaccounts.

I think if you guys found someone who had 50 stakes or something then yes you should refund stakes.  However I am not sure how you do this outside the rules.  It is either taint analysis or IP checking.   How far do you go with taint analysis ? Then you start accusing people.  Pretty much definition of a witchhunt.

Instead you could be productive.  Figure out how to make this coin succeed.  Make scammers work for their stakes, but just don't spend too much time going on about this.  

I hope you guys doing all this extra work get dev stakes.


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legendary
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Don't you have better things to do than hang around here ? Like working on your own project ?


That´s right. FrictionlessCoin, stop trolling in the NEM thread. Jealous?

We've already raised more than NEM.
sr. member
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Reason: violating other member's right to privacy in a public forum. Following this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billions-coins-part-1-this-thread-is-no-longer-used-422129
0.03 btc is refunded to the sending address in the following this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx-index/280a984c9f09d2a2e3dc42fc7f27495e93967ffac87a989965e019513945

My be you can explain a bit more on what privacy I violated and where was the terms n conditions regarding this.
I dont remember seeing any while I signed up.
To me the rule is dont ask questions specifically and dont ask who is utopianfuture.

Also I hope you didnt pay back from your personal account (as I am tired of hearing that BS and dont need any of your money)
Send me the money you took from me.

And my question to the community still remains.
How many of you know this guy for real as he is a very new account holder in this forum  and so are all the other recent scammers.
Nobody has to reveal the identity, just a confirmation would do.

EDIT: The refund is confirmed and I am OUT. Good luck to you all guys....



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Don't you have better things to do than hang around here ? Like working on your own project ?


That´s right. FrictionlessCoin, stop trolling in the NEM thread. Jealous?
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It is rude to ask for personal information from anyone in a public forum.

I didnt ask some random person in the forum for personal information, but the IPO holder of my investment, that too via a PM.
May be you should check the legal requirements of an IPO holder.

Thanks.

This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

Dude... he was just asking some basic questions!

Not going to be critical of how you run your fund raising,  but you should be a bit more tolerant of your investors.

It seems like this guy with a fraud warning, and the other obnoxious guy acting as if he just invested $20,000 came on at the same time to troll hard. Probably the same person. Please refund him his money, even if he's not asking for it. And ignore him or her.
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We have a concept of "parallel development". That means we do technical development parallel with fundraising and community building. Bitching about distribution seems like inevitable given the nature of proof of stake blockchain that all shares have to be given out at the beginning. But the core technical development team is shielded from this discussion and will deliver the works according to the plan. However given the nature of the new start-up, everyone should be patient because there are a lot of things to sort through at the beginning.

It is very clear in our pitch that "you should be patient and we have no new codes at this point". So no ETA of any kind and you should know that before putting the money in.

I am not asking for a fully functional product here.
As an investor, I want to see how you are progressing with the 'parallel development'.
What have you achieved so far? Any screen shots or source code to share?
If you are doing development, you must be developing it against some spec or white paper right?
Could you be kind enough to share it?

Also your development team, they dont have any deadline at all?
So this thing could take years then?

How long you think is - Be patient ?

If you are doing it for the first 20 pages of people, who entered it for free, then you take as much time as you want.
You have taken my money and now you are sitting on top of +40 bitcoins, from similar people like me.
So I am looking for some answers here.


Relax, this things is only a couple of weeks old, and you're acting as if you hired this team to do a personal project for you. You're yelling at them as if you're their boss and they're beneath you. Like I always say, be grateful for the opportunity that you know about a project that has potential. To me you sound worse than a person with multiple stakes.

Here I am grateful for this group, while here's a person that sound so arrogant. Don't know if you are and you just sound that way, but truly worse than someone with 10+ stakes. Unless that person also has a similar character.
hero member
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This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.

Reason: violating other member's right to privacy in a public forum. Following this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billions-coins-part-1-this-thread-is-no-longer-used-422129
0.03 btc is refunded to the sending address in the following this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx-index/280a984c9f09d2a2e3dc42fc7f27495e9396dfcb7ffac87a989965e019513945

Don't think he'll mind. Looking at the blockchain he might have more stakes.
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Somebody keeps pushing the NXT price down. It's really annoying. It's annoying. 

It is called a
market opportunity.
Buy now, that is cheap. Would you rather wait for .001 to double your stake?

I do take advantage every time. In this case I hadn't realized that there was a Bitcoin crash, so it wasn't so much because of manipulation, though I saw the price trying to be pushed down a little.

My point was against how someone with a lot of coins can manipulate things to get more coins. Even though I benefit by buying more coins, (which is still a risk because if the price doesn't go back up then the coins I bought before would still be worth a lot less), these people are still manipulating things and I have sympathy for those who lose because of it. You'll yell free market because you don't care about the ones who lose, and blame them for not being quicker than the other, but we just have different ways of viewing things. In the long wrong somebody with millions of coins repeatedly manipulating the market to get more coins is a disservice for NXT.
hero member
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This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.

Reason: violating other member's right to privacy in a public forum. Following this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billions-coins-part-1-this-thread-is-no-longer-used-422129
0.03 btc is refunded to the sending address in the following this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx-index/280a984c9f09d2a2e3dc42fc7f27495e9396dfcb7ffac87a989965e019513945

instant justice!  Judge, jury and executioner!

Don't you have better things to do than hang around here ? Like working on your own project ?
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It is rude to ask for personal information from anyone in a public forum.

I didnt ask some random person in the forum for personal information, but the IPO holder of my investment, that too via a PM.
May be you should check the legal requirements of an IPO holder.

Thanks.

This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

Dude... he was just asking some basic questions!

Not going to be critical of how you run your fund raising,  but you should be a bit more tolerant of your investors.

This is not a company so anyone think himself as an investor coming to a wrong place. NEM = new economy movement. We never intend to be a company
legendary
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This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.

Reason: violating other member's right to privacy in a public forum. Following this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billions-coins-part-1-this-thread-is-no-longer-used-422129
0.03 btc is refunded to the sending address in the following this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx-index/280a984c9f09d2a2e3dc42fc7f27495e9396dfcb7ffac87a989965e019513945

instant justice!  Judge, jury and executioner!
newbie
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Is there a dedicated NEM forum yet?

our ideas/topics should be organized and easily sorted. This is needed, especially now.
newbie
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This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.


I prefer refund the stake to this fella, this guy is going to make lot of harm to the community.
sr. member
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Merit: 268
Internet of Value
This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.

Reason: violating other member's right to privacy in a public forum. Following this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billions-coins-part-1-this-thread-is-no-longer-used-422129
0.03 btc is refunded to the sending address in the following this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx-index/280a984c9f09d2a2e3dc42fc7f27495e9396dfcb7ffac87a989965e019513945
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
This is not an IPO. It is a call to building a community. And you are no longer welcome. I exercise the right of the development team to change fundraising term in the disclaimer and refund you the money.

and the reason for refunding my money is......
I asked some tough questions???

Anyway I thought you are just one another stakeholder in this whole project.
I asked these questions on behalf of the community and if the community decides to refund me , please go ahead.
Otherwise as a stake holder I need reasons and I want to know what I did wrong.

Egalitarian, no dictator, for the community bla bla bla , my a$$.
Open your eyes and see what you are doing now.

later.
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