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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 456. (Read 661525 times)

sr. member
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
people are seeking a true fair equal distribution
That's impossible.

How it's different:
1) More $, more % you'll own;
2) No enough BTT-activity, good bye (and good enough activty on your multiple accs, more % you'll own, ofc)?

Wow, cryptopost  Grin
Please explain your message since this is not entirely clear to me...
sr. member
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Hello,


I have found my name on the Fraudsters list,  I live in spain and I have sent it following the rules, please can you tell me what I have done wrong, I can send you screenshots or anything, I am genuine, did someone took my id number. I want to know what went wrong and I want also to help to clarify this


Check back in a few hours as I updated the list. At the moment it is likely that your hash is used by a fraudster but I can fix it. Don't worry.
hero member
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people are seeking a true fair equal distribution
That's impossible.

How it's different:
1) More $, more % you'll own;
2) No enough BTT-activity, good bye (and good enough activty on your multiple accs, more % you'll own, ofc)?
newbie
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Hello,


I have found my name on the Fraudsters list,  I live in spain and I have sent it following the rules, please can you tell me what I have done wrong, I can send you screenshots or anything, I am genuine, did someone took my id number. I want to know what went wrong and I want also to help to clarify this
hero member
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Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




did not you say that my hash was duplicate not seen it on the list. that yellow, I still coast on the list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0
 I still coast on the list  as fraudster Huh

I have temporarily fixed your account. The list will be re-organized in a few hours though.

ok, I suggest that the next time you have any questions about any transaction, you contact parties via pm for clarification. AND NOT IMPEACH THE PEOPLE WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF FRAUDSTERS !!!

sorry no PM. everything is in public record.


ok solved !!! thanks !!!  @utopianfuture
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So I see someone used my hash, What can I do right now, I dont have more BTC and Im not sure what signing is and how it is done.


Don't worry I will fix it in a few hours.
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...math, you can trust math.
So I see someone used my hash, What can I do right now, I dont have more BTC and Im not sure what signing is and how it is done.
sr. member
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Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




did not you say that my hash was duplicate not seen it on the list. that yellow, I still coast on the list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0
 I still coast on the list  as fraudster Huh

I have temporarily fixed your account. The list will be re-organized in a few hours though.

ok, I suggest that the next time you have any questions about any transaction, you contact parties via pm for clarification. AND NOT IMPEACH THE PEOPLE WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF FRAUDSTERS !!!

sorry no PM. everything is in public record.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




did not you say that my hash was duplicate not seen it on the list. that yellow, I still coast on the list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0
 I still coast on the list  as fraudster Huh

I have temporarily fixed your account. The list will be re-organized in a few hours though.

ok, I suggest that the next time you have any questions about any transaction, you contact parties via pm for clarification. AND NOT IMPEACH THE PEOPLE WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF FRAUDSTERS !!!
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




did not you say that my hash was duplicate not seen it on the list. that yellow, I still coast on the list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0
 I still coast on the list  as fraudster Huh

I have temporarily fixed your account. The list will be re-organized in a few hours though.
hero member
Activity: 784
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Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




did not you say that my hash was duplicate not seen it on the list. that yellow, I still coast on the list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0
 I still coast on the list  as fraudster Huh
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A reply to the IPO thread:

I'm in the process of doing an escrow deal with Anon136. Can I still get the 450NXT deal? I'll be updating this post once the deal has been done and I'll pm you utopianfuture to notify of this.

I will quote your post here because you are a veteran member; but remember that there is no "reserved", "post transaction later" in the registration page. Only post to reserve a stake after you have arranged your stuff.

If you want to use escrow; contact him, send him the money and tell him to PM me that he has received your money. Then you can post a reservation with a note - using escrow Anon136 to reserve a stake.

I did pm him just after posting that thus "in the process" Wink.
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Nxt NEM
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Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 




Great work !
I hope people will remember all the efforts later when the whining about unfair distribution starts/continues Smiley
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Hi all I would like to show you the good works done by  Kooream. He has filtered out all duplicate hashes from page 1 to 10 registration thread 2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdDNodjQ1MkVSUHh5LV9EcnRuU2wxMWc#gid=2

We begin by filtering out all the invalid transactions. All remaining valid transactions are sorted in alphabetical order to check for duplicate hashes or ID.

if two accounts have the same hashes, then one must be a fraudster. Initially we prioritize the first account with the hash and mark the second account as "fraudster" - if there is an appeal then the account owner would need to show proof of ownership of that transaction either by

1. a signed message with the transaction
2. send a very small amount to NEM accounts

Then the other account would be labeled "fraudster".

Kooream and I would continue to work in this manner and we would like to invite all NEM stakeholders to scrutinize these lists in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters.


UP


I thought of another method. Generally, a genuine new registration posts a reply with a transaction hash right after they make the transaction. Now I will take into account the time lapse between the time stamp of the transaction and the reply post. A newly registered account with more than 10 minutes of lapse between the transaction and the reply post would be marked for further scrutiny. Well i don't see see how a fraudster could get through all of these measures. So all of them will be wiped out eventually.
 


legendary
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Why 4 bil coins? NXT has only 1 bil. This makes NEM more cheap. How about 210 mil coins?  Smiley
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You skipped me in the other thread and I haven't received a response.

EDIT:

I wasn't sure if this is what you were looking for: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441041.new#new

I was at spot 1074 in the previous thread but it seems like there is another person on there (1074).



If you did not reply in the registration thread (with proof of payment or promotion), then you did not reserve a stake spot.

Yes I did - a Dutch promotion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441041.new#new

But I'm still not on the list. Are you kidding me  Angry

@Utopianfuture : FYI This guy changed his original post into a scam warning on the dutch forums.  He complained that you were not responding to his questions. I have replied to this and explained he did not qualify since the conditions were not met in the first place. Here is the post where I replied to him: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-441041




Thanks a lot. He did not seem to read the front page carefully.
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
You skipped me in the other thread and I haven't received a response.

EDIT:

I wasn't sure if this is what you were looking for: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441041.new#new

I was at spot 1074 in the previous thread but it seems like there is another person on there (1074).



If you did not reply in the registration thread (with proof of payment or promotion), then you did not reserve a stake spot.

Yes I did - a Dutch promotion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441041.new#new

But I'm still not on the list. Are you kidding me  Angry

@Utopianfuture : FYI This guy changed his original post into a scam warning on the dutch forums.  He complained that you were not responding to his questions. I have replied to this and explained he did not qualify since the conditions were not met in the first place. Here is the post where I replied to him: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-441041


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Update:  Kooream will help me in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters. We will both do an audition at the beginning of thread 2 today (independent checking). After we catch up with the new registrations in thread 2 we will look back and audit registration thread 1.

So new list updates will probably be delayed but as I have stressed in the past - the registration thread is in fact the original stakeholder list. As long as you are in there with valid transaction then you are a NEM stakeholder. So there is no need to worry if the google doc list has not updated to your position.

Since the registration threads are public records ((just as every transactions in the bloackchain). I would invite anyone to scrutinize the list to find mistakes, and more importantly to throw out all the fraudsters who do not belong to the list.

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