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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 457. (Read 661525 times)

newbie
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stakeholder List update to page 10 thread 2. The reason for this lateness is I found out couple of fraudsters and the main trick they used is to make reservations with other people transactions.

Since the fee changes every 10 pages, they can only use the transaction in that range because the first thing I checked is to see if there is indeed an transaction of the right amount. Now I also sorted the hash in alphabetical order and only accept unique transaction hash; if a hash was used the second time then that user is a fraudster. So it would take longer time now to update the list since the checking now requires more times and efforts.

I would also go back to earlier transactions to find every single fraudsters and throw them out of the list. The good thing is that all the records are public in the registration thread and all fraudsters will be found out easily using the method I lay out.

So go ahead and waste your times because I am going to find you and throw you out of the stakeholder list.
HELP utopianfuture PLEASE, my acount is fraudsters

Hi!

I find it hard to write in English, but with google traslator, is much easier. Sorry

I've had a bad time, I thought I was a fraudster because  I have accounts for my 3 sisters, my mother and 1 friend. I thought I couldn't have more than one account. That torture!

My number on stakeholder List: 1614  Y  fraudster  

My bill:
https://blockchain.info/es/tx/63eb4e2ebdbc2cdb6c96e4b8ace09cbb4587103b32b189b06996e2d5227c2290

And another problem:
When I created my first account, xax515, I  I forget to save my email. I was so excited with the second big coin!!!



utopianfuture, is a pleasure to read your work since December in nxt.
Thanks for spreading the wealth among the poor. I am encouraging my friends to buy NEM and NXT ...  but the Spanish society is rotten, no research, no one pays attention to facebook. Spain=spanishtan    


I hope people with 40 million NXT, NXT isn't rot. I have just purchased 100,000 NXT  to 0.00008-10  in december 25, ohhh

I'm sure with all my money, changed on  NXT and NEM, and I can buy my house!  YES YES!!! FLYFAST!!!



Eternally be rewarded!
hero member
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Nxt NEM
Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to this thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we only accept the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from legitimate transactions later.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me via PM and show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal would work out easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with duplicate hash would be label "fraudster".

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. Thanks.

UP

From this day?
or also the earlier posts, which had taken space from reserving pages and causing that the reserve payment has been increasing faster (and been more for person A: he has been on page X, but without those extra posts, he would have been on page X-20).
newbie
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Can the 'no envy movement' part get dropped? too hippyish, imo



I agree.  New Economy Movement is a huge improvement.
hero member
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While I think it looks pretty good it does remind me a lot of another coin that is already out there...can't remember the name right now. If you browse the Announcement sub you'll sure stumble upon it tho.

maybe Terracoin? Argentum?
p2pool.org is pretty list of different images...


It's non of those...I can't for the life of me find that stupid coin. Maybe it already died Smiley
What I can tell you is that it didn't just look similar...it looked almost identical. However since we can't find it I don't think it already has/had much attention.
jr. member
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jr. member
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newbie
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So NEM wants to see itself as a mere coin Roll Eyes Well fine with me, it's no envy movement after all Wink

But I would rather see the image of NEM something else than a coin. Coin is Bitcoin, Coin is early 2010's. The image of a coin may right now appeal for the few adventurous tech-minded people who read bitcoinforums and have that "coin" set of mind. But for the masses, average facebookers and instagrammers we need something fun and cool to relate to. NEM is movement. NEM should have an easily recognisable logo/symbol that stands out from the jungle of all the alt coins. NEM is a brand we have to sell for the masses and it has to stand out with a fresh look. Just my 0.02 NEM Smiley

This guy makes sense.  We really don't need a "coin".  There is no word "coin" in any of the proposed names I see.  So why take on that baggage?  After you have named it movement, it is no longer a coin by name.  It is a movement.
legendary
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I made a Logo as I'm a graphic designer by trade but I don't know how to post it on a message. Any help would be appreciated.

put it on imgur, it'll give you bb-forum-like link, and just paste it here

(img)

are you fucking kidding?
You're a graphic designer and you don't know how to add a picture, but then you do, and you add a picture of a link to your post?
All you had to do was PASTE that LINK into THIS message.

a) I'm not sure why you're replying to me and b) Dude, calm down, drop the coffee, take some pills or something
jr. member
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its not so hard

go to the image you want. 
1st,  do you have a mouse with left and right buttons or one of those mac one click things? 
right click on the image if you have 2 button mouse
ctrl key  and mouse click if you have a 1 button mouse

then choose "Copy image location" from the dropdown menu.
now in the forum post here that you are making click the little image icon that is above winky face emoticon.
it will make a thing saying
Code:
[img][/img]

get your cursor in the middle and hit PASTE and it should enter the correct code. so it looks something like this
Code:
[img]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/tsai_tsai_family/funny_animal_03.jpg[/img]
now if you hit the preview button you shuld see that your image is working!


newbie
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I'm a bit old school, trained 30 years ago. Normally forums have a simple picture upload button. Isn't there an easier way than joining yet another website like igur and posting their link?
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
I made a Logo as I'm a graphic designer by trade but I don't know how to post it on a message. Any help would be appreciated.

put it on imgur, it'll give you bb-forum-like link, and just paste it here



are you fucking kidding?
You're a graphic designer and you don't know how to add a picture, but then you do, and you add a picture of a link to your post?
All you had to do was PASTE that LINK into THIS message.
legendary
Activity: 866
Merit: 1002
I made a Logo as I'm a graphic designer by trade but I don't know how to post it on a message. Any help would be appreciated.

put it on imgur, it'll give you bb-forum-like link, and just paste it here

newbie
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I made a Logo as I'm a graphic designer by trade but I don't know how to post it on a message. Any help would be appreciated.
member
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Any Plans to put some funds aside for bounties, giveaways and faucets? I think both are a good idea. Bounties help it grow. Faucets and giveaways attract new people to the coin.
member
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We are all entering a new era.
Some advice to the devs:

You should do a multibit type client for NEM instead of a localhost site like in NXT.
I think that would be better for newbies and it feels professionally, what NXT's localhost page I think not the best...
But thats just an opinion, many people outside the crypto world don't even know what is IP or localhost or port, and if the software don't start it automatically they won't do it.

I agree. If NEM, the New Economy Movement, is going to introduce the concept of cryptocurrency to masses (people know little about Bitcoin), a user-friendly GUI is very important.

Quote from: wunderbaro
if the software don't start it automatically they won't do it.

Should NEM succeed in this aspect, it can be huge.

All other cryptocurrency are competing in the same area -- people technically-minded enough to appreciate the concept of Bitcoin, or people greed enough who see profit from the price history of Bitcoin and all other altcoins -- this is a bloody red sea. While NEM can expand in the fresh blue sea.

And an easy-to-install and easy-to-use is vital to common people, a Nxt-style client just won't do. The majority will not trouble themselves installing JAVA, setting up environment variable etc.

If NEM runs on JAVA, provide a way to automatically install EVERYTHING, JAVA, NEM client, then produce an easy way to start NEM. For example, a NEM_start.html points to 127.0.0.1:7875.
newbie
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I suspect a common reaction amongst the dogecoin crowd will be to shout about premine and scam etc...  There is that pervasive attitude, that anything that doesn't justifiy having a GPU rig to mine coin is a scam.

What are some good constructive ways to communicate that NEM is not a scam, and is meant to fulfill the promise of a fairly distributed currency?

Explain how it works.  It is no more unfair than dogecoin which requires an investment in hashpower hardware.  In this case you invest in the coin directly, and some were given the coin for free.  The devs and genesis block did everything they could to give a chance.

In the end, I would also point out how NXT/NEM are superior and that it is basically inevitable that blockchain based coins will hate.
full member
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NXT.org
Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to this thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we only accept the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from legitimate transactions later.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me via PM and show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal would work out easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with duplicate hash would be label "fraudster".

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. Thanks.

UP

Why don't you ask people to sign their message with their BTC account, this is the way to go against fraudster.


Yes from now on you should consider signing your btc transaction with your username.
But even without a signature, we still have a way to tell a fraudster. Having a signature would be faster though.
And to all of the fraudsters, don't be happy too early if you are now in the list because we will be doing an audition of everything at least twice before the initial NEM distribution.

Finally. Great to see there are being taken the measures I have been asking for for quite a while now.
I hope you realize that noone is trying to sabotage NEM, but if it's going to be a fair distributed coin, then let's make sure that it actually is Smiley

If you are determined to make sure that is the case then I am greenlighting NEM again and want it to succeed
sr. member
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Internet of Value
Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to this thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we only accept the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from legitimate transactions later.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me via PM and show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal would work out easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with duplicate hash would be label "fraudster".

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. Thanks.

UP

Why don't you ask people to sign their message with their BTC account, this is the way to go against fraudster.


Yes from now on you should consider signing your btc transaction with your username.
But even without a signature, we still have a way to tell a fraudster. Having a signature would be faster though.
And to all of the fraudsters, don't be happy too early if you are now in the list because we will be doing an audition of everything at least twice before the initial NEM distribution.
sr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 251
Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to this thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we only accept the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from legitimate transactions later.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me via PM and show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal would work out easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with duplicate hash would be label "fraudster".

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. Thanks.

UP

Why don't you ask people to sign their message with their BTC account, this is the way to go against fraudster.
sr. member
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Internet of Value
and not just that someone use the hash of others

 if there duplicate hash has to be an audit to find out the owner,

I am no scammer. I demand to be taken off the fraudster word of my name on the list,

 and request  excuse to me and the community!!!

I will audit every transactions in thread 2 tomorrow and I already have someone helping me. Your name will be clear and apology and wine will be given.
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