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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1992. (Read 2985265 times)

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Suggestion: I suppose the moderated thread is what NEM will want to show for the greater public. Therefore I suggest taking out from the unmoderated thread the full OP, just leave the title (maybe add "non-moderated" or something), logo, and link to the OP of this moderated thread to make clear difference which one is the bitcointalk official. Also you would have to update only one OP, more simple.

Whenever someone complains about the thread being moderated simply answer with a link to the other thread. But this should be THE thread imo.
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Unfortunately NEM was Besieged by those that consider us a threat. Greed invokes deluded power.

While deluded one is called a common mortal
Once enlightened one is called a Buddha.

Amen it's a brave new world
I offten get a Zen moment after my 10th coffee  Smiley



sr. member
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How many thread considering NEM have you created within last 24 hours?
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As a proud NEM stakeholder....blah, blah.....I still have one question:

Can anyone actually tell me wtf UP actually did ?
I've seen everything from "oh, it was only one sockpuppet he made by mistake" up to "UtopianFuture makes $100,000 sellling NEMstake, then disappears in a puff of smoke"

So I'm curious as to where the truth might be.....


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7279112
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Never back down !!!

good decision to lock out the troll. Thanks for that.
Now we can move on.

I am pretty sure the devs won´t delete critism or different opinions, just the spam of a moron.

Go NEM !!!
legendary
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As a proud NEM stakeholder....blah, blah.....I still have one question:

Can anyone actually tell me wtf UP actually did ?
I've seen everything from "oh, it was only one sockpuppet he made by mistake" up to "UtopianFuture makes $100,000 sellling NEMstake, then disappears in a puff of smoke"

So I'm curious as to where the truth might be.....


In his words he said he had "a few" sockpuppet accounts, another source said he had 60, though I never saw any sort of justification for that number. So probably somewhere between 3 and 60. Some of the inside crew could probably shed some light on the subject.
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You are well versed within the higher rankings of coin land, i was hoping you could tell me
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As a proud NEM stakeholder....blah, blah.....I still have one question:

Can anyone actually tell me wtf UP actually did ?
I've seen everything from "oh, it was only one sockpuppet he made by mistake" up to "UtopianFuture makes $100,000 sellling NEMstake, then disappears in a puff of smoke"

So I'm curious as to where the truth might be.....
legendary
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I'm ready to be civil now...

Tea, anyone?

PS - I still like NEM and I wish you all good luck. Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labors.
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I think a moderated thread is a great decision. Of course, free speech is important but as others have pointed out, trolling does nothing but clutter up the thread and obvious trolls need to be removed from the discussion for the sake of everyone who is trying to participate seriously.
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Hey, thanks for getting this started xtester. I added a link to the moderated thread under important links in the non-moderated thread. Should we add a link to the non-moderated thread under important links here also?

Thanks,
EFFV

Will do that now.

I think having two main threads is bad idea.  It is very confusing to new users and new users are important.  Embarrassed

I think having a moderated thread is very important to keep a discussion focused on NEM facts/updates and not FUD. If the non-moderated thread serves no purpose and is left alone then it will disappear on its own.
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Hey, thanks for getting this started xtester. I added a link to the moderated thread under important links in the non-moderated thread. Should we add a link to the non-moderated thread under important links here also?

Thanks,
EFFV

Will do that now.

I think having two main threads is bad idea.  It is very confusing to new users and new users are important.  Embarrassed
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Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
Hey, thanks for getting this started xtester. I added a link to the moderated thread under important links in the non-moderated thread. Should we add a link to the non-moderated thread under important links here also?

Thanks,
EFFV

Will do that now.
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Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
I'll start some light discussion: Should a NEM Mobile app for Android and iOS be a priority for development after completion of the V.1 blockchain?

I don't think apple will pass any wallet-like app, so only possibility for ios is web wallet

@gimre Apple has changed their policy recently and allows bitcoin wallets again:

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-apps-re-enter-ios-store-apples-digital-currency-policy-shift/

It would be great to have a NEM wallet for IOS and Android.
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I think once we have cut the troll disease, our community should be able to evolve and bloom again in no time.

With luck! Some really good discussion was developing in the previous threads before the troll infestation. Hopefully this thread will be a haven for such discussion once more.

I'll start some light discussion: Should a NEM Mobile app for Android and iOS be a priority for development after completion of the V.1 blockchain?

Why wait? NEM has a strong community. Once the open alpha releases, the APIs will be made public shortly after. I hope the community can start building on top of NEM at that point while the core team is still focused on the core blockchain features.
Thanks Jaguar , POI needs to be explained at some point. I assume PR will give us the details
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Hey, thanks for getting this started xtester. I added a link to the moderated thread under important links in the non-moderated thread. Should we add a link to the non-moderated thread under important links here also?

Thanks,
EFFV
legendary
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I'll start some light discussion: Should a NEM Mobile app for Android and iOS be a priority for development after completion of the V.1 blockchain?

I don't think apple will pass any wallet-like app, so only possibility for ios is web wallet
sr. member
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I think once we have cut the troll disease, our community should be able to evolve and bloom again in no time.

With luck! Some really good discussion was developing in the previous threads before the troll infestation. Hopefully this thread will be a haven for such discussion once more.

I'll start some light discussion: Should a NEM Mobile app for Android and iOS be a priority for development after completion of the V.1 blockchain?

Why wait? NEM has a strong community. Once the open alpha releases, the APIs will be made public shortly after. I hope the community can start building on top of NEM at that point while the core team is still focused on the core blockchain features.
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I am not in favour of self-moderation.

We were not in favor of it either until it was too much.

I will post my previous post again. Here are the reasons for the moderated thread:

I am 100% for free speech, however, free speech does not entail trolling. I'm afraid people misunderstand this because they also misunderstand what freedom means. Freedom entails some kind of self-imposed limitations. We are free in so far as we don't intentionally harm our neighbor. We simply cannot enter someone's house and kill them or destroy their home and claim we have done it in the name of our freedom. We are not free to do such things and if we do them we have to pay a big price for that. Similarly, with free speech, we are free to express our opinions and thoughts, even disagree and criticize whatever we want but that freedom becomes the seed of destruction when in the name of free speech we allow people to deliberately and intentionally troll and destroy our hard work(without paying any price).

This is not freedom, it looks more like madness and there seems to be a great incentive on the internet for people to do that, because at least for now, they don't have to pay any price for their deeds however dreadful they may be. I am not interested in political correctness, I'm only interested in what is right and what is wrong, and allowing trolls to run free in our "home" seems obviously wrong.

If we have a self-moderated thread it does not mean we will delete every comment which criticizes or disagrees with us. As long as this is done with a minimal degree of decency every discussion is welcomed. But trolling should never be allowed just because the system we use is too dumb to find a way to penalize such behaviour.

Seeing as you reposted this, i'm re-quoting it because i share the sentiment.


I think once we have cut the troll disease, our community should be able to evolve and bloom again in no time.

With luck! Some really good discussion was developing in the previous threads before the troll infestation. Hopefully this thread will be a haven for such discussion once more.

I'll start some light discussion: Should a NEM Mobile app for Android and iOS be a priority for development after completion of the V.1 blockchain?

Most certainly yes. I'd love to see a NEM wallet on android and other mobile device OS's.
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Just because of the fact that it is moderated, most of the trolls will stay out. No need for 24/7 moderation.

Good point. Anyway, we hope for the best but prepare for the worst. So can someone share rights of a thread?
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