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April 15, 2014, 04:22:14 PM
Police does not issue arrest warrants for "suspicions of mismanagement."

Police has not issued any warrant. Be so kind and provide us something other than sheer speculation.
Also, no media in cyprus or the web has any piece of info NOT originating from this thread.
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April 15, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
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At the moment we have suspicions of mismanagement, but nothing more...

Police does not issue arrest warrants for "suspicions of mismanagement."
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April 15, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
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April 15, 2014, 03:19:48 PM
Also, suspicions of fraudulent management are quite pertinent, since he failed to deliver the promised financial statements.  Fom that moment, the burden was on him to prove that he is innocent of that.

Your other points are reasonable, but this one is not. It is never upon the accused to prove they are innocent. Rather, the accuser must prove them guilty.

At the moment we have suspicions of mismanagement, but nothing more. Let's wait for the due process of law to take its course and see what comes out at the end.
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April 15, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
The guy is one in a billion. He will end up in jail the way he is handling himself.

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April 15, 2014, 01:58:05 PM

So the Neo/Bee super-secret special trading algorithm that can make profits when markets go and down,  actually turned into 'oh no lets sell them all at $100, in case they go to zero'..............

I missed this, when did he have a chance to sell BTC at $100?
EDIT: Found it never mind.
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April 15, 2014, 01:41:37 PM

So the Neo/Bee super-secret special trading algorithm that can make profits when markets go and down,  actually turned into 'oh no lets sell them all at $100, in case they go to zero'..............
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Martijn Meijering
April 15, 2014, 01:15:55 PM
I'm guessing it's a change of address, but we'll see.
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April 15, 2014, 01:11:13 PM
meanwhile CEO changed request completed. Still certificate not issued though so by friday we will know what this Changes are about


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April 15, 2014, 12:24:38 PM
In what way are my requests asymmetrical? I want evidence of news regarding NeoBee whether it's positive or negative.

Well, you take Mr. Brewster's statements at face value:

[ ... ] when Danny appears and clarifies the situation suddenly the burden of proof is back on his shoulders (hint: it's not, its up to the accuser to prove a case, not the accused to clear themselves) with regards to unpaid creditors and embezzlement of startup funds.

Even assuming that this message and the previous one are indeed from Mr. Brewster, he makes several allegations that should require proof:

* there were threats against his daughter.
* he contacted the police about the threats but they did not even file a report.
* the Cyprus police was told how they could contact him, but did not.
* ditto for the Cyprus Mail reporter.
* the people who complained to the police had failed to provide him with deposit addresses.

Also, suspicions of fraudulent management are quite pertinent, since he failed to deliver the promised financial statements.  Fom that moment, the burden was on him to prove that he is innocent of that.
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April 15, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
...schoolboy-level evidentiary standards.
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You gave Danny your money without applying those, or seemingly any, standards.
You have accused people of being MP, or his hired help, without *any* evidence to support such accusations, and yet expect irrefutable evidence on top of Danny's own self-contradicting statements:

-My daughter was threatened, so I left Cyprus.  Leaving her behind lol.
-I reported this to the authorities, who are now lying that I didn't because Bitcoin.
-I left to raise funds to save my company, which is in great financial shape according to the latest revision of the prospectus. <==yeah, "revised prospectus," not joking.
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April 15, 2014, 12:07:04 PM
He's certainly reached a new low in terms of his public statements. Absolutely pathetic. I have zero sympathy for the guy.

Man up. Go back to Cyprus. Sort your mess out.


I've written off my investment many weeks ago, but statements like this just twist the knife.
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April 15, 2014, 11:59:29 AM

[ ... ] Not one single fucking request for evidence for all this, [ ... ]

Dear Mr. @NanoAkron, I respect your desire for hard evidence in this and other forums.  However, since your requests seem to be rather asymmetrical, perhaps you could clarify whether you are a friend of Mr. Brewster, or a close relative.

(Whatever your answer, I hope you will provide solid evidence to back it up.)

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And if MP is behind all this (as I'm pretty sure he was given all his sockpuppets posting in the early days of the collapse) I hope you enjoy your US extradition hearings.
That is interesting.  Have you any evidence of that?


In what way are my requests asymmetrical? I want evidence of news regarding NeoBee whether it's positive or negative. I lost a few BTC in there at the height of their value and so of course I'm a little sore over it, but as a reasonable investor I accept my losses along with my gains. But endless manufactured bullshit just really pisses me off.

I neither know Mr. Brewster nor am I related to him. However, if you believe I am, you have the burden of proof to provide evidence to confirm your suspicions. I have no burden of proof to provide evidence to deny them. These are schoolboy-level evidentiary standards.

On that same note, I cannot 100% confirm my suspicions regarding MP's sockpuppet accounts and I will therefore have to withdraw that statement.
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April 15, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
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* he fled Cyprus because of threats against his daughter, leaving his daughter behind;
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not only this, but he also just told the whole world that his daughter is still on a small island, not very smart if there were real threats

I suggest reading the whole thing on reddit, interesting comments there
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April 15, 2014, 11:19:17 AM
By the way, what is defintely known about Mr. Brewster's background, before he went to Cyprus? (I mean schooling, jobs, etc.)
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April 15, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
Needless to say, it would be, er, extremely unwise to believe ANYTHING that is said or written by a person in the situation of Mr. Brewster.  Especially when there is no reason to believe that it actually came from him, and plenty of motivation for others to impersonate him.

Even if we were to believe those allegations by this alleged "Danny Brewster", we would conclude that, among other things,
* he is still away, in an unknown country, with no way for investors, employees and creditors to reach him;
* those people who complained to the police about the missing bitcoins still haven't got their bitcoins;
* he fled Cyprus because of threats against his daughter, leaving his daughter behind;

and many other interesting "facts".

I hope that potential investors who are interested in providing funds to salvage the company can find a competent shaman or spiritual medium who can get in touch with him.

[ ... ] Not one single fucking request for evidence for all this, [ ... ]

Dear Mr. @NanoAkron, I respect your desire for hard evidence in this and other forums.  However, since your requests seem to be rather asymmetrical, perhaps you could clarify whether you are a friend of Mr. Brewster, or a close relative.

(Whatever your answer, I hope you will provide solid evidence to back it up.)

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And if MP is behind all this (as I'm pretty sure he was given all his sockpuppets posting in the early days of the collapse) I hope you enjoy your US extradition hearings.
That is interesting.  Have you any evidence of that?
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April 15, 2014, 09:36:58 AM
But none of you fuckers needed a single shred of evidence to support the idea that:

- a cat starved to death in the building,


You want evidence? Here it is:

http://pointstcharles.terencebyrnes.com/?attachment_id=675

 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Stupid Joke !
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April 15, 2014, 09:07:12 AM
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OK, in the meantime,
you are free to believe every other anon troll or proof-lacking post on teh interwebz.
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Thorazine.
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April 15, 2014, 09:01:06 AM
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What a sick fucking joke. And if MP is behind all this (as I'm pretty sure he was given all his sockpuppets posting in the early days of the collapse) I hope you enjoy your US extradition hearings.

Seems like The Great and Powerful MP is now controlling the world...





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April 15, 2014, 09:00:32 AM
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Due to the sheer amount of misinformation surrounding myself and current events, I thought it necessary to post something. This is going against all advice that I have received on the matter.
... ... ... resolving everything surrounding Neo and Bee.

OK, he MAY not be a crook, but he definitely seems incapable of handling a company, euros in the millions and bitcoins in the thousands.
...which makes you a crook when you pretend you can.

How? Do you think Steve Jobs was running a multi-billion business before he was running a multi-billion business? No. But he presented himself as such in order to secure trust and investment in the early stages of Apple.

Same with Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and any other self-made CEO. There's a level of bravado and self-assuredness that is necessary to present yourself to the business community. It doesn't make you a criminal if your idea doesn't work.
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