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Quote from: KS on April 03, 2014, 01:42:04 PM

@mgio: sell the branch and lease to the new owner. Not a good long term strategy, but maybe they'd buy enough time to actually start the business (unless D. is taking all the money making projects with him)

They're under lease(I remember that I read somewhere that their rent is paid with BTC), so when Neo doesn't pay rent anymore, the owner of the building will kick them out soon. So it seems like they cant sell the branch. They can sell equipment, but these shares are non-equity profit shares. So they have no rights for liquidation funds. Bitcoin community is screwed ... again. And again. And again ...

EDIT : That post under mine ... damn ... the media will eat this failure like a desert. I doubt that any new potential Bitcoiner from Cyprus will be buying into BTC soon. It's horrible what he did. The whole credibility of Bitcoin is destroyed on that island.

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@mgio: sell the branch and lease to the new owner. Not a good long term strategy, but maybe they'd buy enough time to actually start the business (unless D. is taking all the money making projects with him)

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Apparently, Danny has submitted a change of CEO: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6053935

I have no idea if this means an investor has been found.

We don't know the cash situation. Seeing as no financial reports have been provided, it's hard to know what they do or don't have. They may have lots of BTC, but no local currency, or maybe they don't have anything.

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With the confusion aggravating the fate of this company and its activities , questions arise about whether it still operates normally.

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Is there any chance Neo&Bee can recover from this?

It doesn't look very good to me:

- TAT suddenly quit

- The CEO quit, possibly due to threats his family received, but maybe not. It really doesn't matter to me. The fact of the matter is that he is gone and selling off his equity in the company.

- They are out of cash. They presumably have assets but no liquid cash with which to pay their employees.

- People expect banks to be stable. No one is going to want to put their life savings in a bank that has had a scandal like this.

If they can't find an investor very soon, I think they should try and liquidate their assets. Maybe someone else will pick up their brand and continue with their original mission. They should use the money received to pay back their investors (us).

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@velacreations re. source:

Quote from: bite111 on April 03, 2014, 11:23:02 AM

...Article here: http://www.tothemaonline.com/oikonomia/den-mas-ta-leei-kala-o-neo-tou-bitcoin
...

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Is this the Stockholm Syndrome thread ?

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Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:44:57 PM

As I was saying, he might have talked to UK police since he can't even speak Greek and he's UK citizen.

Why not go to the US police, or the Russian police, then? I mean, if we're just throwing out hypotheticals, he should have gone directly to the NSA, they can identify people better than a local cop.

Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:44:57 PM

Someone just checked a complaint database that didn't show any legal complaints.

source?

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Quote from: velacreations on April 03, 2014, 12:38:06 PM

I think if he had gone to the police, they would have said an investigation has been opened. They wouldn't have denied that any complaints have been made.

As I was saying, he might have talked to UK police since he can't even speak Greek and he's UK citizen.

If he did reach out to police in Cyprus and asked them for their advice there won't be any records about filled complaints. Casual police desk clerk in a big city like Nicossia doesn't know the history of all calls. Someone just checked a complaint database that didn't show any legal complaints.

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Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:32:44 PM

...
Are you paranoid? Not everyone with new account is Herp. ...

No, but your particular blend of herp and derrp is unmistakable. Why would a kind and merciful god troll the world with more than one of you? <==proof

*Before the police can investigate, a report has to be made. None was.

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I think if he had gone to the police, they would have said an investigation has been opened. They wouldn't have denied that any complaints have been made.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on April 03, 2014, 12:22:17 PM

Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:13:59 PM

... You can't issue complaint against someone if you don't know who they are.

-Hello, 911? Someone broke into my house.
Who was it Sir?
-I ... I'm not sure bu...
SIR! Unless you know who the thief was, there's nothing we can do. Please hang up.
-Can't you take a report or a...
*click* beeeeeeep

*BTW, you can't hide stupid. Herp.

Police can investigate but they can't go after someone who they don't know. Police will certainly investigate any request but that's pretty much it. If you want to take action against someone and file a complaint you have to know identity of that someone.

Are you paranoid? Not everyone with new account is Herp. What have you been smoking? I wonder why would you think that? Is this something you would do?

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Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:25:17 PM

You can go to the police and tell them to investigate but you can't file a legal complaint. There's a difference.

So, you're saying he did go to the police?

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Quote from: velacreations on April 03, 2014, 12:22:18 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on April 03, 2014, 12:12:38 PM

So Danny felt it was appropriate to share these threats with the whole world but not with, you know, people who might be able to help? What kind of a dad does that?

oh, I hear ya, I'm just saying that article is inaccurate. It also depends on where he was when the threats were made. Maybe he went to Interpol, instead of the local police. I don't know, I'm just saying that the lack of a local police report doesn't mean threats weren't made.

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Also to issue a legal complaint you must know the identity of the persons involved.

No, you don't. If someone makes an anonymous threat, you can still go to the police. It's not your job to identify the people.

You can go to the police and tell them to investigate but you can't file a legal complaint. There's a difference.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on April 03, 2014, 12:12:38 PM

So Danny felt it was appropriate to share these threats with the whole world but not with, you know, people who might be able to help? What kind of a dad does that?

oh, I hear ya, I'm just saying that article is inaccurate. It also depends on where he was when the threats were made. Maybe he went to Interpol, instead of the local police. I don't know, I'm just saying that the lack of a local police report doesn't mean threats weren't made.

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Also to issue a legal complaint you must know the identity of the persons involved.

No, you don't. If someone makes an anonymous threat, you can still go to the police. It's not your job to identify the people.

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Quote from: Luttinen on April 03, 2014, 12:13:59 PM

... You can't issue complaint against someone if you don't know who they are.

-Hello, 911? Someone broke into my house.
Who was it Sir?
-I ... I'm not sure bu...
SIR! Unless you know who the thief was, there's nothing we can do. Please hang up.
-Can't you take a report or a...
*click* beeeeeeep

*BTW, you can't hide stupid. Herp.

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Quote from: bite111 on April 03, 2014, 11:54:25 AM

THE BRANCH NEVER OPENED UP.

so, were all the people inside just "hanging out"?

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Quote from: velacreations on April 03, 2014, 11:50:06 AM

it's a bit misleading to say because the police don't have any formal complaints, no threats were made.

It's very likely he called the UK police to ask for advice since he's UK citizen and doesn't even know Greek.

Also to issue a legal complaint you must know the identity of the persons involved. You can't issue complaint against someone if you don't know who they are.

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Quote from: velacreations on April 03, 2014, 11:50:06 AM

it's a bit misleading to say because the police don't have any formal complaints, no threats were made.

So Danny felt it was appropriate to share these threats with the whole world but not with, you know, people who might be able to help? What kind of a dad does that?

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ICO is evil

Quote from: bite111 on April 03, 2014, 11:54:25 AM

THE BRANCH NEVER OPENED UP.

That isn't true. I've been there.

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