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April 03, 2014, 10:59:23 PM
a.  No, Danny has frozen funds at BF, he bailed N&B out. N&B had over 10K btc to make this work.  We have no idea to their debts, but we know they don't have enough funds to keep going.

Wrong. The company now has frozen funds not Danny: "I shall also be providing the new owner full rights over the Bitcoin debts currently owed by BitFunder/WeExchange as I know people are working on a solution to recovering those debts for everyone that has funds stuck there. This process will also write off all directors loans I have made to the company and I shall not receive any financial compensation through this sale process." - Danny

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b. You don't run out of money and have no plan.
Plan was to use personal Mtgox funds to further credit the company and allow time for equity to be sold, but personal funds lost in Mtgox closure didn't help: 1. "I also have 369.8BTC of my own Bitcoin stuck with MtGox that would have been given to the company to settle all creditors and continue operations whilst more capital was raised." 2. "My original plan was to raise more capital to allow the company to achieve its potential through the sale of some of my equity. The moment threats were made towards my daughter this plan changed and I decided I would sell all of my equity, allowing the new owner to appoint a new CEO." -Danny


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c. we know what he said, and he had he said he couldn't say more. He replied to MP being banned as a bad thing, saying MP was not the issue, wrong trolls, etc, etc.  There is no question that he knows more about what happened than he has revealed.

You're speculating without any sort of facts, just wild conjectures. It's known fact MP owns a fat 30k btc chunk and that money buys a lot of friends and allegiances, including but not limited to paid trolls. Check out last message Danny posted on this forum before making the last announcement and also check thread he posted it in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5709849


sr. member
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April 03, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
a.  No, Danny has frozen funds at BF, he bailed N&B out. N&B had over 10K btc to make this work.  We have no idea to their debts, but we know they don't have enough funds to keep going.

b. You don't run out of money and have no plan.  The whole point is that he shouldn't be needing to find equity partners to begin with.  N&B had plenty of funds, even if Danny's personal btc were tied up elsewhere.  Trolls can say mean things about you, etc, etc, but they don't spend your money for you. BF and Gox are irrelevant to N&B discussion.

c. we know what he said, and he had he said he couldn't say more. He replied to MP being banned as a bad thing, saying MP was not the issue, wrong trolls, etc, etc.  There is no question that he knows more about what happened than he has revealed.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
which part is out of proportion?
a. N&B is out of money
b. Danny's at fault
c. TAT knew about it

a. N&B doesn't have debt or very little debt assuming they owe 1 month salaries to employees. They also have frozen IPO funds in Bitfunder.
b. Yes and No. MPEx defamation campaign created severe issues with finding equity buyers to finance ongoing operations. Bitfunder fiasco was not Danny's fault, neither he was responsible for MtGox's failure, as he was hoping to use those funds to credit the company
c. We don't know jack shit about what TAT knows or doesn't know. Pure speculation on your part.
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April 03, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
This whole thing is so fucked. From every angle there's non-sense and misinformation.

Where are people's investments? Why is there no financial reporting? Why was 'CEO replacement' paperwork filed 3 weeks ago?
sr. member
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April 03, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
which part is out of proportion?

a. N&B is out of money
b. Danny's at fault
c. TAT knew about it

newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:39:58 PM
The "defamation campaign" didn't spend all the money.

Danny didn't shut down Bitfunder but he instead credited the company out of his own pocket. He didn't shut down Mtgox either.

Exactly, those coins were credited back to the company. If Danny still had those 1800 coins, he could have maybe put them into the company, but that why would he not blow those like he blew through the rest? And if he did manage to turn things around, it would be more debt for the company, so the dividends would be further and further away.

As a sidenote, how did the company see the warning signs to not lose any coins in Gox but the CEO didn't?

Danny suffers from a case of over inflated ego (same as MP), which is why communication wasn't the best at times. Aside from that many of what shills post here is blown out of proportions.
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 09:35:59 PM
The "defamation campaign" didn't spend all the money.

Danny didn't shut down Bitfunder but he instead credited the company out of his own pocket. He didn't shut down Mtgox either.

Exactly, those coins were credited back to the company. If Danny still had those 1800 coins, he could have maybe put them into the company, but that why would he not blow those like he blew through the rest? And if he did manage to turn things around, it would be more debt for the company, so the dividends would be further and further away.

As a sidenote, how did the company see the warning signs to not lose any coins in Gox but the CEO didn't?
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:33:21 PM
Don't go over the top with stupidity, try to keep it believable.  Less is more here.
Don't think I can outmatch yours no matter how hard I try.
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April 03, 2014, 09:32:39 PM
The "defamation campaign" didn't spend all the money.

Danny didn't shut down Bitfunder but he instead credited the company out of his own pocket. He didn't shut down Mtgox either.

This isn't the BF or Gox thread, this is the Neo thread.  Danny spent Neo's money. Loaning Neo money doesn't make him a Saint, and certainly doesn't excuse him blowing through 10K+ btc in a month or so with no backup plan.
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April 03, 2014, 09:30:59 PM
Don't go over the top with stupidity, try to keep it believable.  Less is more here.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:27:09 PM
Whoa, way to not break character!  

You should know all about "not breaking" character with the dozen of troll accounts you operate both fresh and old bought accounts.

Sad that father-mother MPEx-PR was banned recently. You could have used an extra dose of shill.

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newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
The "defamation campaign" didn't spend all the money.

Danny didn't shut down Bitfunder but he instead credited the company out of his own pocket. He didn't shut down Mtgox either.
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 09:17:43 PM





This is how you shills feel after successful defamation campaign I take it. Are your proud of yourself?

Be sure you guys will pay big-time. There will be a sweet poetic justice in all of this. Just give it few months and we'll see who has the last laugh.

The "defamation campaign" didn't spend all the money.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
@porky

Shilling or trolling is not an art and you are not artist, not even if you do it for money you lowlife. Is that how you see yourself? Troll artist that gets paid 2btc/month. What a total joke you are. You've just spilled the beans on your true occupation.

You are, however, a manipulative sociopath that managed to sway a few unsuspecting weakhands with lots of half-truths, mistruths and incomplete information.  

Only question you should concern yourself with is:

Will you be allowed to pay MP conjugal visits in prison or not?
sr. member
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April 03, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
@Luttinen:  You are a true artist.  Trolling NeoBee threads, pretending to be a mildly retarded and slaveringly overenthusiastic Neo supporter.  A perfect embarrassing cling-on no one has the heart to shoo away, you torture NeoBeans at your leasure.  Cruel, but I respect the purity of your art.  Carry on.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 08:52:57 PM




This is how you shills feel after successful defamation campaign I take it. Are your proud of yourself?

Be sure you guys will pay big-time. There will be a sweet poetic justice in all of this. Just give it few months and we'll see who has the last laugh.
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April 03, 2014, 08:48:57 PM


How now brown cow?
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
You're really becoming undone by your newfound poverty.  What has MPEx to do with any of this? 

Don't worry MPEx will be poor as the next average joe when SEC freezes his BTC stash which he now uses to pay disgusting shills like you to trash his competitors. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-19/gambling-website-s-bitcoin-denominated-stock-draws-sec-inquiry.html

It's common knowledge you're actively working to destroy the MPEx competition. Does your mother know what you do for a living? How you prostitute yourself for 2 BTC/month from MP? I bet your parents are utterly disgusted with such a foul progeny.
sr. member
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April 03, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
You're really becoming undone by your newfound poverty.  What has MPEx to do with any of this?  Concentrate on ur lost coin or u'll go unsane Shocked

*So you went and ban-evaded, and got banned *again*.  You understand that the temporary ban is now permanent.  Herp.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 08:33:33 PM
Luttinen, d00d, ...lots of BS

If Neo's a scam (which is not), MPEx is the mother of all scams. Simple as that. I wonder if the SEC will make room for you in the jail cell they've set aside for your MP master so you can make sweet love to each other. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-19/gambling-website-s-bitcoin-denominated-stock-draws-sec-inquiry.html
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