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legendary
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April 04, 2014, 08:08:29 AM
Losing 6 Bitcoin is trolling?
newbie
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April 04, 2014, 08:02:03 AM

Used Bentley 37k euro imported in Cyprus 15/03

http://www.sigmalive.com/inbusiness/paraepixeirimatika/114715


Right and so do the bs Bentley accusations go out the window. He bought a used imported Bentley for the price of an average new car.

A good car is also required to project a certain image to the people you're doing business with. There are plenty of idiots in this world who won't talk or do business with you if you owned a shitty car.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 08:01:23 AM
I hope everyone here knows Bitpop and bitcoin.newsfeed are fake bought trolls.

I think the issue of who might be 'trolls' is irrelevant.

The fact is that many people (whatever their motivations) called out the problems here and were massively shouted down by the 'believers'. Now the truth is revealed and Neo/Bee is dead.
newbie
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April 04, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
I hope everyone here knows Bitpop and bitcoin.newsfeed are fake bought trolls.
full member
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April 04, 2014, 07:54:13 AM
Normally the order of business is:

1. Design products
2. Get approvals
3. Launch with PR
4. Gain customers
5. Make Profits
6. Buy Bentley (if true)

I guess that all seemed too hard so he just went for options 3 and 6.....

Used Bentley 37k euro imported in Cyprus 15/03

http://www.sigmalive.com/inbusiness/paraepixeirimatika/114715
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 07:41:09 AM
Normally the order of business is:

1. Design products
2. Get approvals
3. Launch with PR
4. Gain customers
5. Make Profits
6. Buy Bentley (if true)

I guess that all seemed too hard so he just went for options 3 and 6.....
legendary
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Merit: 1060
April 04, 2014, 07:37:10 AM
Damn I just want my Bitcoin back
Assholes
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 07:12:23 AM
I knew I should have sold my shares when one of the employees told me the CEO bought a brand new Bently...it just rang alarm bells he would spend so much on a car only a few weeks into opening.

Damn....
Weren't they supposed to buy a bank as well? 
member
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April 04, 2014, 06:24:33 AM
I knew I should have sold my shares when one of the employees told me the CEO bought a brand new Bently...it just rang alarm bells he would spend so much on a car only a few weeks into opening.

Damn....
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sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 05:48:09 AM
Source?
Did you buy shares yesterday? Are you mad?  Undecided
newbie
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April 04, 2014, 05:31:09 AM
Source?
full member
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April 04, 2014, 05:11:21 AM
Current news:

American Neo & Bee Investor in Cyprus currently examining Neo & Bee software.

Two police reports for fraud 20k euro and 15k euro received by the police (money where given by associate/customer to be converted to bitcoins)

11 employees resigned

PS: Investor is looking to sell the trading software and recover the losses
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 05:07:50 AM
You seem to have some real insights here. Can you give us your evidence that the bentley was bought from IVPO funds?

No? Oh that's right, you're just making shit up and thinking that's as good as real evidence.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 03:44:32 AM
Why should we trust what Ukyo has to say?
+1  Sorry, but Ukyo is not a credible source of information.  If he talked with people, etc, then he needs to provide evidence.  His word is shit.

Also, since he's keen on talking, someone ask him when he's going to give people's coins back.

1. Do not forget about this : Ukyo was in NEO HQ for several days, we have photos of that meeting here in forums. NEO provided him full accommodation etc. Its very likely that he made a few friends inside the company in times when there were only key employes. On the other side we don't know anybody from NEO, he knows, so it can be a little truth in his words this time.

2. When he'll be able to sell AM shares with lower loss, after he bought them around 2.0+ share price with customers money.(my personal speculation)

EDIT :

Message for Danny Brewster:

A lot of us believed in you, we believed in your dream and in return you kicked us into the dirt. You have damaged the reputation of Bitcoin not only in Cyprus but throughout the world, and every tiny bit of bad reputation that is added to the pile helps weaken Bitcoin as a whole.

You are a disgrace, a coward, and a liar.

I know you don't give a shit about me or any of the other investors who will lose our Bitcoin due to your incompetence, but I hope at least you know that you failed to make your mark and you found out you weren't made of the finer stuff. May you live forever.

+1

from reddit :

Quote from: Cinnabon link=http://www.reddit.com/r/neobee/comments/225ey7/why_you_do_this_danny_brewster/

Seriously, man.

You had an entire community's goodwill and support behind you. You started your operation in a country already tired of the scams and distrusting of financial institutes. You had a rather successful launch and advertising campaign.

All this, flushed down the toilet because some schmuck on the internet threatened to harm your family? What are you, a 12-year old girl?

You could've been remembered as a role model and a CEO with a vision who took steps to change the world's monetary system. Instead, you settled for a used bentley, some investors' money and went hiding in the UK? Are you insane?

How are you going to sleep at night? How does it feel to run away with tail tugged between your legs like a coward that you are? How does your fiancé feel about this? How will you ever earn the respect of your daughter who will get to know you as the fraudster that lied to investors and ran away with their money?

So it seems like Danny Brewster is fucking his and his family life and reputation of family name for one used Bentley and stolen 10 000 BTC. What a character Grin greedy humans ...

This is also gold  Cheesy He really bought Bentley with IPVO funds? What an irresponsible waste ... Damn, I bet this man will be poor again in one year from now. And he wants to be a banker ... yeah  Roll Eyes On his place I would really don't like to piss off hackers and others from onion side(potential investors in this fiasco) Cheesy

sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 12:45:30 AM
He never said that loss was actually covered in full in cash or BTC. It was probably covered by equity which was going to be converted into cash. 
He never mentions covering them with equity, at all.  He clearly implies that he covered them with coins.

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It's not called credit if you cover it out of your own pocket without expecting it to be repaid.

ok, let's call it funds, then.  Why did they need funds?  That's the part you keep ignoring, the fact that before any of the other bullshit, the company was out of money.

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TAT was clear as mud so no, he didn't say anything "clearly". Stop bringing this up because it's BS.
Wait, aren't you the one that keeps talking about Gox and BF being the cause of liquidity issues? That's the BS, here.  TAT's knowledge is actually relevant to the discussion.


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They are not irrelevant at all because all these 3 factors helped aggravate the liquidity issue.
no, none of them had the company's funds. Danny running out of company funds caused liquidity issue.

"Robbing a bank is illegal, that's why I'm poor"
newbie
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April 04, 2014, 12:24:33 AM
here's the part you keep missing: "we had run out of liquidity"

a. Where is the 10K btc?  "There were coins lost in BitFunder/WeExchange which I personally covered and assumed that debt of 1420BTC"  So, as you can see, he released N&B funds with a personal loan to the company.  
He never said that loss was actually covered in full in cash or BTC. It was probably covered by equity which was going to be converted into cash.  

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b. you miss the point.  Why does the company need credit?

It's not called credit if you cover it out of your own pocket without expecting it to be repaid.

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c.TAT said very clearly he knows more than he has said.  

MP, Gox, and BF are irrelevant to the discussion.  We are talking about Danny mismanaging the 10K+ of N&B (shareholder) funds, not his mismanagement of his personal funds.

TAT was clear as mud so no, he didn't say anything "clearly". Stop bringing this up because it's BS.

They are not irrelevant at all because all these 3 factors helped aggravate the liquidity issue.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 12:14:33 AM
here's the part you keep missing: "we had run out of liquidity"

a. Where is the 10K btc?  "There were coins lost in BitFunder/WeExchange which I personally covered and assumed that debt of 1420BTC"  So, as you can see, he released N&B funds with a personal loan to the company.  

b. you miss the point.  Why does the company need credit?  "MtGox was a personal risk that I assumed and no company funds were ever held on there"

c. it's not a wild conjecture.  TAT said very clearly he knows more than he has said.  

MP, Gox, and BF are irrelevant to the discussion.  We are talking about Danny mismanaging the 10K+ of N&B (shareholder) funds, not his mismanagement of his personal funds.
newbie
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April 03, 2014, 11:59:23 PM
a.  No, Danny has frozen funds at BF, he bailed N&B out. N&B had over 10K btc to make this work.  We have no idea to their debts, but we know they don't have enough funds to keep going.

Wrong. The company now has frozen funds not Danny: "I shall also be providing the new owner full rights over the Bitcoin debts currently owed by BitFunder/WeExchange as I know people are working on a solution to recovering those debts for everyone that has funds stuck there. This process will also write off all directors loans I have made to the company and I shall not receive any financial compensation through this sale process." - Danny

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b. You don't run out of money and have no plan.
Plan was to use personal Mtgox funds to further credit the company and allow time for equity to be sold, but personal funds lost in Mtgox closure didn't help: 1. "I also have 369.8BTC of my own Bitcoin stuck with MtGox that would have been given to the company to settle all creditors and continue operations whilst more capital was raised." 2. "My original plan was to raise more capital to allow the company to achieve its potential through the sale of some of my equity. The moment threats were made towards my daughter this plan changed and I decided I would sell all of my equity, allowing the new owner to appoint a new CEO." -Danny


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c. we know what he said, and he had he said he couldn't say more. He replied to MP being banned as a bad thing, saying MP was not the issue, wrong trolls, etc, etc.  There is no question that he knows more about what happened than he has revealed.

You're speculating without any sort of facts, just wild conjectures. It's known fact MP owns a fat 30k btc chunk and that money buys a lot of friends and allegiances, including but not limited to paid trolls. Check out last message Danny posted on this forum before making the last announcement and also check thread he posted it in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5709849


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