Topic: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation - page 13. (Read 33755 times)

admittedly bomba - the words used probably will get deleted anyway - but it was hash ...

however - i have watched this community for about a year now - and its only now that i start to come out of the shadows ...

djm - you - wolf - sp - and many many others ( including cbuchner and sgminer-dev and all the others that have contributed ) ... without any of your patience and perserverance - there would be no miners - no software - no need to start mining - let alone continue ...

i sympathize with carl ... ignorance is bliss to many unfortunately and with the fact that he called djm a scammer SHOWS how little he knows about the people involved here ... and how rude he can be - due to an issue between him and djm ...

you know - people should look up the word scam - and also the word scammer ... its being used WAY too much and 99% of those using it have NO IDEA what it means ...

anyway - its NO BIG DEAL ... its not gonna stop us all wanting the software and it CERTAINLY wont stop me mining or donating for damn good software ...

keep up the huge efforts guys ...

again ... cant wait for the neoscrypt ccminer ...

djm - will you and sp merge the code to one miner - eventually? ...

#crysx

Again; this is not selling, this is a crowdfund. The moment the counter reaches 5BTC, djm will release all. So we all have the same software. Claymore has probably made more than this already.
I can't speak for djm, but I don't think he's gonna sell priv miners for neoscrypt.
Djm != wolf. Djm likes to sell his services, mostly to coin-devs who need a gpu miner. Wolf makes priv miners and sells them afterwards, only occasionally does something like DJM is used too.

I have no problems with this new kind of donation/payment/crowdfund, I actually like the idea. Makes people remember that nothing comes for free, but everything is voluntary. The liberal world we crypto'ers want, isn't it? I do think 5BTC is a bit too steep and the "waiting period" a bit too long, but that's up to djm, not to me.

I don't think some of you understand what's happening here.

He sells this code, he improves the code, he either sells it again (which is what's happening right now) or he sells it to private investors. The reason AMD isn't currently competitive with Nvidia is because Wolf0 already did this. There are privately sold kernels floating around in the background that are much better then the publicly available ones. Nvidia wasn't as fast as AMD in the beginning, but with continued community improvements it became that way. This is the start of privatizing Nvidia kernels and turning it into whoever owns the fastest kernel. Basically what happened with ASICs all over again.

The whole reason your mining profits start to slide is because other miners are getting better kernels from Djm and Wolf in the background which makes your hardware obsolete because it can't compete without the kernel. They're making this market for themselves by obsoleting current kernels. There aren't new miners joining the market, if anything there is a steady stream of people leaving it, so profits should be rising (or income since it's relatively unprofitable).

Mining difficulty is all about taking bites of the same size pie. The only way to get ahead is with different hardware (which doesn't happen with GPU mining) or different kernels. Otherwise it's proportional across the board and based on how many GPUs you own. If everyone is using the same crappy kernels, the proportion stays the same. You're only playing catch up with other people that already bought this specific kernel in the background and encouraging them make this kernel obsolete as Wolf, Djm, or other will try and further develop this as they have funding to do so and then either start another fund drive or sell it in the background, probably both.

You're basically paying them to take you out back and shoot you unless they offer some form of continued support, which none of them do and slink away from if you ask about it (oh no one will pay for it or use my miner).


As someone who is looking to invest, do you actually plan to continually support your kernel after the release? Claymore actually had a product for mining Cryptonote, and he continued to support and still does even with the decline of Cryptnote. What promise do you give that you will continue to make this a proactive kernel that wont simply be swept under the rug by your latest build or someone elses making it unprofitable for the 'common' Nvidia miner?

Ooh man, I was hoping for a debate. But since I still don't see the link I want, it's probably not worth it ^^"
Anyways, guys: <3 all, as you guys know. All my tools are made for the community, because I like it how it is. But when we've got little children like this one running amok, it makes me mad.
Sorry for being harsh, but I still mean it, even after 5min cooldown, so I think he deserves it

P.S.: I come from Wallifornia, dirty south from Belgium, woop woop! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdPOn0HmdQ Je suis le diable!
(Just Belgium is fine too ^^ )

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"Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck."

I just clicked ignore under your name. You must be from Oklahoma or close by. Good bye.

djm - my miners will continue mining till midnight tonight ( adelaide australia time ) ...

i can see that there a 'little' donation there and hope that will suffice ... a little at least ...

ive finished another upgrade to another machine and will compile sp's latest to see if does any justice to the hashrate again ...

about 60% of the farm has now moved to 750ti oc cards and teh rest will be done in the next week ...

this means that testing can be done on a much more grand scale ...

cant wait for the release of at least the initial ccminer optimized neoscrypt miner ...

for soem reason i have always a soft spot for feathercoin ... maybe due to it being one of the very first coins ( after litecoin ) that i mined when i first started ...

looking forward and onward gents and ladies ...

tanx again ...

btw - bombadil ... another awesome dev carl ... harsh - but still an awesome dev ...

#crysx

Give us the link at what you're aiming, fool. Everyone's google results are personalized, and the first thing I get is this: https://github.com/ghostlander/cgminer-neoscrypt/blob/master/FPGA-README
Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck. (We're getting kinda used to it that you don't actually read.)
If you have another link as proof, JUST GIVE IT, newbie.

Also, djm has been an honest dev for ages. I have a lot of faith in him (if he'd only add the API ) and will support him wherever it's needed.If you were here since a year ago, like I am, you would've known.
You need to know your place, and it's not running around like a headless chicken, screaming about scams etc.

(/me thinks DJM is gonna open up a selfmoderated thread next time ^^" )

Btw, about sp_, I donated to that guy too, even more than I did for djm (djm has to live with the fact that my profits are lower these days ), and I bet I'm not the only one.
He does a great job, but works on stuff much of it has initially been done by djm (and before him, cbuchner, and before that cpuminer devs). So there's no real thumb rule in devving about who gets how many donations for what work.
The only thing we can do, is donate whenever we want to. This thread made me want to, so, well, that was that.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga


You have to just copy and paste or just click on it.

I did that for some time (you can find all my release and update on that blog too...), but at some point you realize that many don't share even a tiny bit of the profit they made using the miner we shared with them, and the donation you got from the few is worth nothing because the myriad of other miners did kill the coin in the mean time.
(happened even to vtc... )
So that's why now, I prefer to ask for a donation before rather than after, also I didn't really plan to mine the coin, so it is really for the community (and self interest in programming) but the "community" has also to express a little gratitude.

speaking of obnoxious, I can post here the messages you sent me, and we will see who is obnoxious....  
(but sorry if you insult me, I will insult you back... I have clearly no patience with the kind of comment you sent me...)

Last time I will reply to you but your link does not work and in the title I see fpga, this is not a fpga thread.

This is an Nvidia thread so maybe you did understand when I said an optimized miner, that was for Nvidia cards.

  Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh 

Just understand that cryptomining blog is taking sp_ work. sp_ is not posting that on that site. So no I am not surprised. You can go to his official thread and get his updates instead of second hand.

And yes I understand that sp_ and others provide miners and updates without cost but I would not expect an updated Spread for free from him at the beginning.

If you want a list of devs and what they have contributed there is an official site that has all the miners that are out.

But here is the deal not all devs are currently updating miners. Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one.

kid ... hahaha ...

looka t what your write carl - understand it immaturity and uselessness ... you are dealing with a 45 year old man that probably has more experience in this industry than you can fit in your entire lifetime ... yes - ME! ...

but nonetheless ... i agree with what has been said earlier ...

with devs like djm and wolf and sp ( to name a few ) ... people like us ( yes - this includes YOU carl ) would have nothing more than expensive cards sitting there NOT mining as well as they should ...

in my world - an unsympathetic human like you should be treated the same as you are treating all that respond to you here ...

im done answering your miniscule excuse for reasoning ... have a great one carl ...

scammed - hehehe ... thats funny ...

nuff sed ...

#crysx

Well, there is no question djm is good programmer but there are some who are better and do not charge anything like:

Quote: "Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing." Not really:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/4120-updated-windows-binary-of-the-ccminer-1-5-24-git-fork-by-sp-for-maxwell/

Surprised? SP does not beg for money. And, is not obnoxious as djm34 is.

Here you go: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad

BTW when you receive something you get the address it was sent from.

I don't get too involved in other people's things but you have no idea what you are saying.

Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing.

You possibly might be new to Nvidia mining or mining but you are so wrong on your comment.

Give him time. He will release it when he is ready to release it.

for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually. 
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...

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"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.

genius - why tanx ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to ...

now thats genius ...



#crysx

Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.