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legendary
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June 20, 2014, 05:44:32 AM
What's up with the class action guys?  Clenell's big date came and went and not a peep from our favorite peanut gallery.

Would have thought Clenell would have address his followers by now, or at least mentioned something to those who are interested, he is their leader of it after all.  We feel that since we're the ones being sued its not our place to bring up the specifics (hence why we have not mentioned it thus far).  

We did notice however that he was searching for more distant AMT clients on a new thread, maybe because he's realized his that his cocktail of psychiatric problems,  obsessive compulsive disorder mixed with a hint of narcissism and just a dab of paranoia (AMT and it's employees are not clinical psychiatrists, and are no way inferring that Clenell suffers from OCD or anything alike, nor do we have any information that states otherwise)  have once again lead him down a path of no resolve.

Or maybe because a few local plaintiffs (like the 3 that came to us within the last day which have opted out) finally realize that Clenell possibly suffers from something and dragged everyone into a situation which was already pretty bad (our doing and choices) and potentially made it worse. What is nice is that now we can work with those opt outs on their orders individually. Maybe some clients are coming to their senses  or maybe not.

Could be, who knows..

Only time will tell right.


So you telling me that you are now offering refunds to your customers?   I'm still waiting to RMA my unit (after 2 months of waiting).   The folks who RMA'ed their unit say that FEDEX returned the units back to them because of an incorrect address.   Can you send me a *CORRECT* FEXEX return label?

legendary
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June 20, 2014, 05:03:53 AM
Roadstress,   <- (always address members in this manner as to not cause confusion. )

Please be more specific. Your question is just to broad. That's like asking Acer how many pieces of computer hardware they built and shipped. (Notice the name drop, and analogy)

We have built and shipped over 8 different models of miners to this date. With 8 different speeds from 80ghs and to 2400ghs, using three different ASIC's. Roadstress please be more specific.

When you received your first order ? When was your first order supposed to be shipped to the customer?

When you received your last order? When was your last order supposed to be shipped to the customer?

Somewhere in the beginning of October. Shipped within 4-6 weeks.
Last order via AMT was in the beginning of April. Shipped within 4 weeks.

What was the advertised hashrate and power consumption for your miners and what was the shipped hashrate and power consumption for the same miners? All of them since you said that you had 8 different speeds.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
June 20, 2014, 04:41:21 AM
Roadstress,   <- (always address members in this manner as to not cause confusion. )

Please be more specific. Your question is just to broad. That's like asking Acer how many pieces of computer hardware they built and shipped. (Notice the name drop, and analogy)

We have built and shipped over 8 different models of miners to this date. With 8 different speeds from 80ghs and to 2400ghs, using three different ASIC's. Roadstress please be more specific.

When you received your first order ? When was your first order supposed to be shipped to the customer?

When you received your last order? When was your last order supposed to be shipped to the customer?

Somewhere in the beginning of October. Shipped within 4-6 weeks.
Last order via AMT was in the beginning of April. Shipped within 4 weeks.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 20, 2014, 04:23:59 AM
Roadstress,   <- (always address members in this manner as to not cause confusion. )

Please be more specific. Your question is just to broad. That's like asking Acer how many pieces of computer hardware they built and shipped. (Notice the name drop, and analogy)

We have built and shipped over 8 different models of miners to this date. With 8 different speeds from 80ghs and to 2400ghs, using three different ASIC's. Roadstress please be more specific.

When you received your first order ? When was your first order supposed to be shipped to the customer?

When you received your last order? When was your last order supposed to be shipped to the customer?
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
June 20, 2014, 03:53:57 AM
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
June 20, 2014, 03:25:50 AM
This forum, in no way represents our clients, most don't have time to sit and read a thread filled with crap. And even when trying to steer the conversation to a potentially insightful or helpful approach it becomes ineffective, because the trolls go to work. So only if stays at a level of just crap, do trolls feel satisfied and ultimately keep their comments to themselves. Notice the trends if you read through it all or have the time.

Then why did you start advertising yourself here? I bet that most of your customers are from this forum.


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To most of these trolls its just a game "war games" and what nut, and they don't care how it effects real people, their lives, businesses or clients.

Please answer a simple question: When were you supposed to deliver miners to your customers and at speed and power consumption have you promised for your miners?

(AMT started writing here because it seemed appropriate to have some sort of presence at the time. It was a major mistake to do so.)

- Valid point - drop the mistake part.  

1 (Clients delivery dates changed based on the date of the order, or product ordered.) Circumstances like this thread and 2(trolls like yourself, ultimately indirectly assisted in some of our delays), other delays were 3(cause by poor sourcing) and just 4(good old fashion trusting the wrong people. )

1. Product? first grammatical, and second always refer to them as miners, thanks.
2. Never call out trolls directly please. The negative SEO specifically caused by one troll impacted SEO negatively which was his goal yes. Did this effect sales, maybe. But please never give them the satisfaction of knowing that.
3. Fine - focus on the facts rather opinions.
4. May be the case but don't mention on this thread.
 

Most of our clients did not come from this forum, we can tell you that for sure. 5 (That's why if you look on that list which was created with our clients orders numbers), 6 (you wont see to many to begin with).  This forum helped to steer clients away from our company, and distract our company by having to justify ourselves to trolls like yourself.  7 (But that was the point all along, at least from a trolling perspective.)

5. Post a link to the list, but good job reviewing the threads history.
6. Comes off too weird, use shorter sentences, focus on just facts.
7. View point 2 again.

sr. member
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June 20, 2014, 03:14:18 AM
Circumstances like this thread and trolls like yourself, ultimately indirectly assisted in some of our delays

How stupid do you think we are?
But hey, lets pretend we would actually be gullible enough to somehow believe that; If trolls can indeed manage to contribute to 6+ month delays, that alone would be a reason to never ever order from you.  Which other bitcoin mining OEM has ever had delays caused by "trolls"?

Previous posts were from the new support staff guys, they we're doing well up until now. Eager young minds trying to get ahead, what can I say. 
legendary
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June 20, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
Circumstances like this thread and trolls like yourself, ultimately indirectly assisted in some of our delays

How stupid do you think we are?
But hey, lets pretend we would actually be gullible enough to somehow believe that; If trolls can indeed manage to contribute to 6+ month delays, that alone would be a reason to never ever order from you.  Which other bitcoin mining OEM has ever had delays caused by "trolls"?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 20, 2014, 01:29:06 AM
This forum, in no way represents our clients, most don't have time to sit and read a thread filled with crap. And even when trying to steer the conversation to a potentially insightful or helpful approach it becomes ineffective, because the trolls go to work. So only if stays at a level of just crap, do trolls feel satisfied and ultimately keep their comments to themselves. Notice the trends if you read through it all or have the time.

Then why did you start advertising yourself here? I bet that most of your customers are from this forum.


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To most of these trolls its just a game "war games" and what nut, and they don't care how it effects real people, their lives, businesses or clients.

Please answer a simple question: When were you supposed to deliver miners to your customers and at speed and power consumption have you promised for your miners?

AMT started writing here because it seemed appropriate to have some sort of presence at the time. It was a major mistake to do so.

Clients delivery dates changed based on the date of the order, or product ordered. Circumstances like this thread and trolls like yourself, ultimately indirectly assisted in some of our delays, other delays were cause by poor sourcing and just good old fashion trusting the wrong people.

Most of our clients did not come from this forum, we can tell you that for sure. That's why if you look on that list which was created with our clients orders numbers, you wont see to many to begin with.  This forum helped to steer clients away from our company, and distract our company by having to justify ourselves to trolls like yourself.  But that was the point all along, at least from a trolling perspective.

Why hasn't AMT stopped writing here when it became unappropriated inappropriate to have a presence here?

Forum trolls have caused some delays? Please explain how is that possible.

You still haven't answered to my question. Have you shipped all orders up to date? When was the first promised shipping date?
sr. member
Activity: 392
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June 20, 2014, 12:48:50 AM
This forum, in no way represents our clients, most don't have time to sit and read a thread filled with crap. And even when trying to steer the conversation to a potentially insightful or helpful approach it becomes ineffective, because the trolls go to work. So only if stays at a level of just crap, do trolls feel satisfied and ultimately keep their comments to themselves. Notice the trends if you read through it all or have the time.

Then why did you start advertising yourself here? I bet that most of your customers are from this forum.


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To most of these trolls its just a game "war games" and what nut, and they don't care how it effects real people, their lives, businesses or clients.

Please answer a simple question: When were you supposed to deliver miners to your customers and at speed and power consumption have you promised for your miners?

AMT started writing here because it seemed appropriate to have some sort of presence at the time. It was a major mistake to do so.

Clients delivery dates changed based on the date of the order, or product ordered. Circumstances like this thread and trolls like yourself, ultimately indirectly assisted in some of our delays, other delays were cause by poor sourcing and just good old fashion trusting the wrong people.

Most of our clients did not come from this forum, we can tell you that for sure. That's why if you look on that list which was created with our clients orders numbers, you wont see to many to begin with.  This forum helped to steer clients away from our company, and distract our company by having to justify ourselves to trolls like yourself.  But that was the point all along, at least from a trolling perspective.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 20, 2014, 12:40:16 AM
This forum, in no way represents our clients, most don't have time to sit and read a thread filled with crap. And even when trying to steer the conversation to a potentially insightful or helpful approach it becomes ineffective, because the trolls go to work. So only if stays at a level of just crap, do trolls feel satisfied and ultimately keep their comments to themselves. Notice the trends if you read through it all or have the time.

Then why did you start advertising yourself here? I bet that most of your customers are from this forum.


Quote
To most of these trolls its just a game "war games" and what nut, and they don't care how it effects real people, their lives, businesses or clients.

Please answer a simple question: When were you supposed to deliver miners to your customers and at speed and power consumption have you promised for your miners?
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
June 20, 2014, 12:34:51 AM
What's up with the class action guys?  Clenell's big date came and went and not a peep from our favorite peanut gallery.

Would have thought Clenell would have address his followers by now, or at least mentioned something to those who are interested, he is their leader of it after all.  We feel that since we're the ones being sued its not our place to bring up the specifics (hence why we have not mentioned it thus far).  

We did notice however that he was searching for more distant AMT clients on a new thread, maybe because he's realized his that his cocktail of psychiatric problems,  obsessive compulsive disorder mixed with a hint of narcissism and just a dab of paranoia (AMT and it's employees are not clinical psychiatrists, and are no way inferring that Clenell suffers from OCD or anything alike, nor do we have the we have any information that states otherwise)  have once again lead him down a path of no resolve.

Or maybe because a few local plaintiffs (like the 3 that came to us within the last day which have opted out) finally realize that Clenell possibly suffers from something and dragged everyone into a situation which was already pretty bad (our doing and choices) and potentially made it worse. What is nice is that now we can work with those opt outs on their orders individually. Maybe some clients are coming to their senses  or maybe not.

Could be, who knows..

Only time will tell right.


AMT_miners,

I have no "dog in this fight", but you really need to "chill" and accept the fact that you f'd over many people that deserve at least a little respect from the company you represent.  I am astounded at the disrespect that AMT has given it's customers (especially in this thread).  I would encourage you to "grow up" and act like a respectable business.  Without that, you will continue to be taunted like a child.

I apologize in advance for the "frank" and "apparently needed" public feedback.  I hope you get your sh*t together for the good of the Bitcoin community.

Und3rd0g,

this community forum, who sole purpose is to steer anyone way from buying a miner from any company in general, has provided the infrastructure to allow one crazy nut client to effect a start up business in such negative way that it may lead to it's ultimate demise. Yes we f'd up, made poor sourcing choices and have taken responsibility for that. But this suit has set us back months, time and money.  Instead of closing shop like several others have and completely f'ing over our clients all together, we will still make every attempt at resolving any outstanding orders to our client's satisfaction. Even if it takes years, all of our nice clients will feel satisfied.

This forum, in no way represents our clients, most don't have time to sit and read a thread filled with crap. And even when trying to steer the conversation to a potentially insightful or helpful approach it becomes ineffective, because the trolls go to work. So only if stays at a level of just crap, do trolls feel satisfied and ultimately keep their comments to themselves. Notice the trends if you read through it all or have the time.

Please understand that it's very rare that we see more than 10 of the usual same clients posting on here. By having a customer support rep like myself write on here in such a manner, it brings a level of control to the spam which is left, and is AMT's way of actually deferring clients away from here and teaching them not to come to here for for real information. Because if you were a client and you found this thread and it provided no real information on an order by order basis, and was just filled with pages of crap,would you come back here on a daily basis to read it, or would you make every attempt you could to get in touch with the company directly and have a direct conversation with some one in charge.  

If we don't write something here everyday, trolls go to work and write such perfectly optimized negative SEO post that in turn ruin our reputation even more. And even if we restore balance, and improve our reputation through satisfied customers in the future, the trolls have still left their little comments, and they won't remove them anyway. And even if we remove their posts they are still mirrored on another site so it doesn't matter from an SEO perspective right?

Writing on this forum is in no way meant to be disrespectful to our clientele, nor is it a means to try and acquire new clients. And there are a few clients which can see past the day to day bs, understand the situation and help when they can.  And if we disrespect those which populate our thread with pure crap,than maybe that's just the unprofessional strategy which is needed in order to steer clients away from coming to this mess in the future. And bare in minde, on the next thread over is a new company that's scamming someone, or another thread filled with crap, or an asian based company offering a cheaper product. Think about it.

To most of these trolls its just a game "war games" and what nut, and they don't care how it effects real people, their lives, businesses or clients.
full member
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June 19, 2014, 11:31:38 PM
What's up with the class action guys?  Clenell's big date came and went and not a peep from our favorite peanut gallery.

Would have thought Clenell would have address his followers by now, or at least mentioned something to those who are interested, he is their leader of it after all.  We feel that since we're the ones being sued its not our place to bring up the specifics (hence why we have not mentioned it thus far).  

We did notice however that he was searching for more distant AMT clients on a new thread, maybe because he's realized his that his cocktail of psychiatric problems,  obsessive compulsive disorder mixed with a hint of narcissism and just a dab of paranoia (AMT and it's employees are not clinical psychiatrists, and are no way inferring that Clenell suffers from OCD or anything alike, nor do we have the we have any information that states otherwise)  have once again lead him down a path of no resolve.

Or maybe because a few local plaintiffs (like the 3 that came to us within the last day which have opted out) finally realize that Clenell possibly suffers from something and dragged everyone into a situation which was already pretty bad (our doing and choices) and potentially made it worse. What is nice is that now we can work with those opt outs on their orders individually. Maybe some clients are coming to their senses  or maybe not.

Could be, who knows..

Only time will tell right.


AMT_miners,

I have no "dog in this fight", but you really need to "chill" and accept the fact that you f'd over many people that deserve at least a little respect from the company you represent.  I am astounded at the disrespect that AMT has given it's customers (especially in this thread).  I would encourage you to "grow up" and act like a respectable business.  Without that, you will continue to be taunted like a child.

I apologize in advance for the "frank" and "apparently needed" public feedback.  I hope you get your sh*t together for the good of the Bitcoin community.
sr. member
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June 19, 2014, 11:26:05 PM
Haven't read AMT thread in a long time since the previous one was closed, thought not to ask in here but after 2 month of mailing & calling and yet to get any replies... here is the last place i can go... So did anyone receive their miners yet? When was it ya? Can i know your order number so i can know that it's still operating... mine was #1433


AMT, y u ignore my question...

We were working on the last post, sry.  Yes we cannot discuss clients individual orders on this public forum. someone will get back to you via email shortly, thanks.
sr. member
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June 19, 2014, 11:21:41 PM
What's up with the class action guys?  Clenell's big date came and went and not a peep from our favorite peanut gallery.

Would have thought Clenell would have address his followers by now, or at least mentioned something to those who are interested, he is their leader of it after all.  We feel that since we're the ones being sued its not our place to bring up the specifics (hence why we have not mentioned it thus far).  

We did notice however that he was searching for more distant AMT clients on a new thread, maybe because he's realized his that his cocktail of psychiatric problems,  obsessive compulsive disorder mixed with a hint of narcissism and just a dab of paranoia (AMT and it's employees are not clinical psychiatrists, and are no way inferring that Clenell suffers from OCD or anything alike, nor do we have any information that states otherwise)  have once again lead him down a path of no resolve.

Or maybe because a few local plaintiffs (like the 3 that came to us within the last day which have opted out) finally realize that Clenell possibly suffers from something and dragged everyone into a situation which was already pretty bad (our doing and choices) and potentially made it worse. What is nice is that now we can work with those opt outs on their orders individually. Maybe some clients are coming to their senses  or maybe not.

Could be, who knows..

Only time will tell right.
legendary
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Merit: 1007
June 19, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
Haven't read AMT thread in a long time since the previous one was closed, thought not to ask in here but after 2 month of mailing & calling and yet to get any replies... here is the last place i can go... So did anyone receive their miners yet? When was it ya? Can i know your order number so i can know that it's still operating... mine was #1433


AMT, y u ignore my question...

Because he is busy trolling and drinking RedBull...
newbie
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June 19, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
Haven't read AMT thread in a long time since the previous one was closed, thought not to ask in here but after 2 month of mailing & calling and yet to get any replies... here is the last place i can go... So did anyone receive their miners yet? When was it ya? Can i know your order number so i can know that it's still operating... mine was #1433


AMT, y u ignore my question...

Hmm... maybe is my problem... should indicate to AMT instead, sorry... so AMT, would you mind to reply my email. Thanks~
newbie
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June 19, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Haven't read AMT thread in a long time since the previous one was closed, thought not to ask in here but after 2 month of mailing & calling and yet to get any replies... here is the last place i can go... So did anyone receive their miners yet? When was it ya? Can i know your order number so i can know that it's still operating... mine was #1433


AMT, y u ignore my question...
full member
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Merit: 100
June 19, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
Fuzzy brought up an interesting fact today. Did anyone else notice there is a shortage of miners. Israeli's, and a few US sites are sold out, and bitmain too...

That's because they do ship their miners, not like you. And also the other miners are much better than yours. What a surprise!

Yea we do to. Smiley

Hello AMT.

i buy 20 of your biggest uberteslaquantumminers.

i heard the customer protection in the united states of america is awesome.

please send me your bank accaount details.

cheers

giorgiotheclown

Sure, we just got the uberteslaquantumminers in stock. Send your request to [email protected], if you act quick we can include a flux capacitor as well. And that's a limited time offer.

i love the united states and AMT. my secretary will contact you.

my 3 personal biggest heroes, george bush and his pretzel.

boris yeltzin

and AMT
sr. member
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June 19, 2014, 10:39:40 PM
Fuzzy brought up an interesting fact today. Did anyone else notice there is a shortage of miners. Israeli's, and a few US sites are sold out, and bitmain too...

That's because they do ship their miners, not like you. And also the other miners are much better than yours. What a surprise!

Yea we do to. Smiley

Hello AMT.

i buy 20 of your biggest uberteslaquantumminers.

i heard the customer protection in the united states of america is awesome.

please send me your bank accaount details.

cheers

giorgiotheclown

Sure, we just got the uberteslaquantumminers in stock. Send your request to [email protected], if you act quick we can include a flux capacitor as well. And that's a limited time offer.
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