Topic: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread! - page 12. (Read 47213 times)

Best for large holders to pay for exchanges and keep the dev reward. Take a hint from the florin investors giving money for a new exchange listing and not reserving the money towards development.

More exchanges higher price and these whales can't have it easy when bigger whales take over and your dev reward becomes more valuable.

Any one with common sense can see the double standards on display

Best would be if large holders pay for development and no dev reward is needed.

Take out 25-50% of the remaining dev reward as a premine, adjust the dev reward down by 25-50%. Won't this solve the development fund shortage and give the coin time to get back on track?

I want Gulden to succeed as much as you but don't want to be thrown under the bus because of low lives that have nothing better to do

I have just indicated to the GAB that I will no longer strive for a new Gulden or an adjustment of the current Gulden. It costs me too much energy and I can't think of a good solution, maybe I'm just completely wrong and it's good as it is. I will therefore no longer post texts about a whale problem or anything in that direction.

However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.

Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.

Have you spoken to the florin investors to help with the XT listing, only 3800 to go. The florin community don't look to have any money to help more.

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Thank you Rijk for raising most of the money for the Florin listing. The premine investors have the most to gain from a listing and it's only fair this way. Thumbs up!


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It is sadge that Rijk is the only person that is bluffing himself that the new Gulden is about the good of Gulden. All the whales in Florin channel are all for the Gulden changes because they also know what the premine will be used for.

And we all know Rijk will not be begging for a new premine if his florin premine sold for a lot of money. The volume and price is sinking to the ground and he needs this new premine fast. He is pushing everyday and it's sadge to see it.

I won't be supporting a the third coin, I have Florin that I plan to dump on the gulden premine buys because that is the goal and everyone is pretending it's not the reason and working other arguments not to say it outright in Slack.

Hai Rijk

Rijk get that new premine ma boy. Florin has poor volumes and price down 70% from ATH... work it babe work it. You manipulate those lil bitches as best you can. Get this change signed sealed and delivered next week.

Love it.

There are many owners who want to see NLG (I think Indulgences or Ndulge has some branding potential) succeed regardless of administrative turmoil and executive greed. It's a great payment interface, has a good tech foundation, just needs some new life, some tlc to get it more internationally ready.
Between freelancers, new investors and contracting out Malcolm, the current chain can almost certainly be readily maintained in a properly decentralized manner. Imagine what could be done with a proper allocation of that 68% block reward by a revised team who know more about marketing and social media! And even on a technical leveI think it is even possible to take POW2 to the next level to POW3 (proof of work, witness and wisdom! the wisdom part being obvious: this project is no longer under the centralized storm cloud of RP and Centure!).

Hear me out, by leveraging the longstanding price history, NLGs veteran alt status, the fact it is still standing as a project, the fact that despite it being in a brutal bear market that could be finally coming to a close a potential massive bull cycle could be around the corner, and the controversy surrounding the decoupling from Centure--imagine, an investigative bounty could be paid to a major influencer like BitBoy Crypto or CoinBureau to do a feature report on all these controversial developments.
The chatter and new awareness would in all probability have an enormously positive effect on price. Such a potential turnaround would turn RP's face blue as everyone realizes the "new gulden" could just be another insider trading rip-off coin like Rijk always treated gulden while it was under the thumb of Centure and instead all investors flock to the original chain--A saga that is almost like the inverse of Ethereum. Shoot for the stars and we might land on the moon so to speak.

think what disadvantage GRS has compared to Gulden with the name of the coin but GRS was able to secure good investors because of work ethic and true decentralization. It's impossible that Gulden is worse off with the funding Rijk gifted himself with the premine and 68% of the block reward.

MANI - Malcolm is the main reason Gulden is on life support or it was dead already.

What if the investors took over and actually marketed this coin PROPERLY? Think Indulgences (NLG--the ticker suddenly matches better and "Gulden" is still in the name, just rearranged). NLG could keep the current gulden architecture (POW2, sigma, lowered supply) and specs (180sec block, 90nlg per block reward) while shedding the "country coin" reputation and the one-man-show, RP's scrooge ass "give me more money or the chain will fail" crap reputation that demands 68% of the block reward  which goes to centure's dumpage on new buyers.  These aspects are actually the biggest things holding the project back in my view. RP of course blames OTHERS instead of looking in the mirror which is typical of narcissistic sociopaths.

I am waiting to see if Guldens max supply will increase over 700 million and I will dust the cobwebs off my wallet and become a once off dumpwhale that Rijk likes to blame.

Before leaving the community because of Rijk , I had chats with a few long term holders who would want to pay Malcolm directly for development and Rijk becomes a investor like the rest of us. He needs to sit with us for awhile because he is too used to his social safety net that is the Gulden dev reward.

He can keep Gulden.com even though the premine paid this and because he wouldn't transfer it "decentralization" . Our hands are tied because the structure of Gulden is centralized.

Who is paying for Florin development if you sold the premine? Do you have a contract with the premine owners and what is the monthly contribution, if the deal was good why don't you hand over Gulden to someone else voted by the community? .

As a Florin investor I wouldn't want you wasting time on Gulden and as a Gulden investor I wouldn't want you wasting time on Florin or both coins will end up as failures as your team is not large enough for 1 coin and you trying to run 2 coins.

Already sold the premine.

The story comes together. I smell desperation because without Gulden supplying him development funds , florin has no development or he is forced to sell his florin premine. This is why i see no big buy orders and when one biggish buy order came on the market at 300000 it was sold quickly.
I can see the pressure on the florin market and trading in the 200000 - 280000 next week but Rijk keeps saying how people are holding. My better judgment is telling me he is telling others to hold while he can sell the premine.

Gulden

Another game.

Which 2014 coin had the biggest premine + block rewards and has done the worst by farrrr.

A. Syscoin
B. Groestl
C. Digibyte
D. Gulden

Duck Hunt

Not all the sell orders are yours but it's strange you telling people you don't have Gulden. What game you playing?

That is a lie, wallets and blockchain will still run but no new development. Another Dutch coin efl blockchain still works and hasn't updated in 7 years. 90% of the coins have no development and the blockchains work.

Because of Novo and florin gulden hasn't had a update in 2 years besides reduced max supply and reward halving and the blockchain still works.

By right Florin should he paying all development costs, florin had a new wallet update 2 weeks ago.