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Topic: NXT 2.0 Ardor No ICO Speculation - Live Now - page 8. (Read 13998 times)

legendary
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I think TravelAsia wanted to say 0.00001950, not 0.000001950. Yeah, these zeroes are confusing. Better let's say 1950 satoshi ... (Edit: confirmed while I was writing ...)

Now NXT is about to cross the 2000 satoshi barrier. From the TA point of view, that can be a crucial point, as about 2000 was the last local high after this rally had started. If 2000 is crossed sustainably, then I predict that 3000 are within sight relatively fast.

There is still time until July 24, I expect that then the momentum will reach its strongest point as many people will try to enter the ARDR market in the last minutes. Maybe NXT can reach its "normal value" for much of 2014 and 2015 (4000-6000 satoshi) again. There may be a dump after July 24, but I don't think it will be strong as if you're dumping you're losing "snapshotting time" and ARDR.



sr. member
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1 week -0.000001950




One week has passed seems you are 50% off so far.


I'm a big fan, when I typed 1950 looks like I added an extra 0. Smiley  It's at 0.00002040, I'm not complaining 1 bit!
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1 week -0.000001950




One week has passed seems you are 50% off so far.

He predicted 0.000001950 six days ago and the price is 0.00002039 with a high of 0.00002100 on poloniex today. His weekly prediction seems quite accurate, but it slightly underestimated the rise. If it goes higher in the next day his prediction might have been too cautious.






NXT has announced their new project Ardor will be NXT 2.0. They decided not to do an ICO, you have to hold NXT to get credit for the new project. What do you think the NXT price will be in the next week, month, 3 months?

1 week -0.000001950
1 month - 0.000002900
3 months - 0.00005800

It's already up 30% on Polo.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ardor-scalable-blockchain-as-a-service-platform-proof-of-stake-1518497



legendary
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1 week -0.000001950




One week has passed seems you are 50% off so far.
sr. member
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i assume alot of people are gonna leave their coins on exchanges. what happens to the distribution then? do they exclude the known exchange addresses from the distribution? are the people who bought on the rise clever enough to realise they need to put the coins in a proper wallet? it's an absolute waste of money for them otherwise.




I am thinking the same thing..

People that leave coins on exchanges are playing russian roulette to being with. I don't even trust exchanges honoring swaps and drops.  Look how BTER screwed over Peertracks and PLAY holders.  If it's not in your wallet, you don't own it.   The best devs can do is continue to communicate the message frequently about distribution.

The devs are are contacting the exchanges and will give an update on it when they have discussed the matter with them.

I doubt many people have left coins on bter because it wouldn't let them withdraw crypti coins for the lisk coin swap. The devs could work out which are the majority of bter's wallets. The big exchanges like btc38 and poloniex would likely give ardor to nxt holders, but we'll have to wait for confirmation.



Have you communicated with the exchanges for the snapshot? Or the only way is by keeping NXT in our wallets?

We'll update about this once we have this completely clear. We are contacting the exchanges, yes.
We'll give you clear communication about this.

It's fine to have agreements with Exchanges, I just want to remind people it's a lot of trust having someone else control your money and snapshots.
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i assume alot of people are gonna leave their coins on exchanges. what happens to the distribution then? do they exclude the known exchange addresses from the distribution? are the people who bought on the rise clever enough to realise they need to put the coins in a proper wallet? it's an absolute waste of money for them otherwise.




I am thinking the same thing..

People that leave coins on exchanges are playing russian roulette to being with. I don't even trust exchanges honoring swaps and drops.  Look how BTER screwed over Peertracks and PLAY holders.  If it's not in your wallet, you don't own it.   The best devs can do is continue to communicate the message frequently about distribution.

The devs are are contacting the exchanges and will give an update on it when they have discussed the matter with them.

The big exchanges like btc38 and poloniex would likely give ardor to nxt holders, but we'll have to wait for confirmation. I doubt the devs trust bter or that many people have left coins on it because it wouldn't let them withdraw crypti coins for the lisk coin swap. The devs could work out which are the majority of bter's wallets.



Have you communicated with the exchanges for the snapshot? Or the only way is by keeping NXT in our wallets?

We'll update about this once we have this completely clear. We are contacting the exchanges, yes.
We'll give you clear communication about this.
sr. member
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i assume alot of people are gonna leave their coins on exchanges. what happens to the distribution then? do they exclude the known exchange addresses from the distribution? are the people who bought on the rise clever enough to realise they need to put the coins in a proper wallet? it's an absolute waste of money for them otherwise.




I am thinking the same thing..

People that leave coins on exchanges are playing russian roulette to being with. I don't even trust exchanges honoring swaps and drops.  Look how BTER screwed over Peertracks and PLAY holders.  If it's not in your wallet, you don't own it.   The best devs can do is continue to communicate the message frequently about distribution.
hero member
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i assume alot of people are gonna leave their coins on exchanges. what happens to the distribution then? do they exclude the known exchange addresses from the distribution? are the people who bought on the rise clever enough to realise they need to put the coins in a proper wallet? it's an absolute waste of money for them otherwise.




I am thinking the same thing..
legendary
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i assume alot of people are gonna leave their coins on exchanges. what happens to the distribution then? do they exclude the known exchange addresses from the distribution? are the people who bought on the rise clever enough to realise they need to put the coins in a proper wallet? it's an absolute waste of money for them otherwise.

sr. member
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Just hit 0.00002100 on Polo. Let's see if my 2nd prediction hits.
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I don't see how Jean Luc drove it down. He is one of devs working his ass off to save Nxt and the ecosystem with the recent Nxt 2.0 initiative.

That is not what my little birdie told me.

Dicktator driving out all other competitive developments and taking control over Nxt caused many of former Nxt ecosystem developers to leave. Kushti basically admitted this recently w/o implicating Jean-Luc specifically.

It's code, who the f cares about the drama.  If Jean Luc can produce results, I don't care if he does it wearing a clown suit with biker chaps.
legendary
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Think about what smart contracts can do but without the risk (Ethereum/DAO hack). This thing can get huge if they do the right marketing!

To clarify, even if I think you meant it that way: NXT 2.0/Ardor, like Nxt 1.0, will not have a "turing-complete" smart contract language. Until today, to my knowledge they are not even planning to add the complete "Automated Transactions" feature (a limited smart contract toolbox) that was integratet into the two other (Nxt-inspired) Java currencies Qora and Burst.

But NXT developers have stated they will "integrate most relevant use cases" of smart contracts. The Phased Transactions feature is one of these use cases, as far as I know.

Exactly! Turing-completeness is what brings risk into a system as we've recently seen with the Ethereum/DAO debacle. Until this becomes bullet-proof (if that is even possible) the better alternative is to hard-code the most relevant use cases like Nxt/Ardor is doing.
legendary
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Think about what smart contracts can do but without the risk (Ethereum/DAO hack). This thing can get huge if they do the right marketing!

To clarify, even if I think you meant it that way: NXT 2.0/Ardor, like Nxt 1.0, will not have a "turing-complete" smart contract language. Until today, to my knowledge they are not even planning to add the complete "Automated Transactions" feature (a limited smart contract toolbox) that was integratet into the two other (Nxt-inspired) Java currencies Qora and Burst.

But NXT developers have stated they will "integrate most relevant use cases" of smart contracts. The Phased Transactions feature is one of these use cases, as far as I know.

To the OP question: My expectations for a price are not that high actually, 0.00002 is a reachable short-term goal. Nevertheless, I think just before July 24 price will shoot up a bit, maybe even to 0.00004, bringing NXT back in the top 10. But I may be underestimating it ...
sr. member
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I don't see how Jean Luc drove it down. He is one of devs working his ass off to save Nxt and the ecosystem with the recent Nxt 2.0 initiative.

That is not what my little birdie told me.

Dicktator driving out all other competitive developments and taking control over Nxt caused many of former Nxt ecosystem developers to leave. Kushti basically admitted this recently w/o implicating Jean-Luc specifically.
sr. member
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The Best Investment Deserves The Largest Exposure

Marc De Mesel is already out with majority, sold 13 million and it did not dump the price terribly


Sold some but did keep a large investment in NXT.  Wink

Glad to see they are on the rise again.

sr. member
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I refer to his predictions from weeks and months ago which you had been promoting on the forum.

Citation required. Why are you spamming this thread with off-topic attacks about BREXIT because you can't find your dick?

Are you trying to bury this:

NXT 2.0 Ardor No ICO Speculation

Lol, so Jean Luc-the-dicktator fucks the Nxt ecosystem to drive the price way down, scoop all the coins, and now resell them and claim it is not an ICO.

Good obfuscation! The dumbells here are likely to be fooled by it.

If it quacks like a duck, if it waddles like a drunkard duck, ..., it might be a penguin. See it's all Spoetnik's fault. He hosed the original Nxt developers with his penigun.

The price of NXT has been in decline for two years in the brutal bear market, I don't see how Jean Luc drove it down. He is one of devs working his ass off to save Nxt and the ecosystem with the recent Nxt 2.0 initiative. While you have shown zero code after years of cheap talk, all this time boasting of how you are a great programmer blabla. And making out of the ass predictions of the market movements that never work. Troll is your reputation.
sr. member
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I refer to his predictions from weeks and months ago which you had been promoting on the forum.

Citation required. Why are you spamming this thread with off-topic attacks about BREXIT because you can't find your dick?

Are you trying to bury this:

NXT 2.0 Ardor No ICO Speculation

Lol, so Jean Luc-the-dicktator fucks the Nxt ecosystem to drive the price way down, scoop all the coins, and now resell them and claim it is not an ICO.

Good obfuscation! The dumbells here are likely to be fooled by it.

If it quacks like a duck, if it waddles like a drunkard duck, ..., it might be a penguin. See it's all Spoetnik's fault. He hosed the original Nxt developers with his penigun.
sr. member
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Martin Armstrong turned out to be fallible with his Bremain

Attacking me by attacking any person's name I've ever mentioned. Next you need to compare your pencil dick to your pencil dick, since I mentioned you.

I know facts aren't relevant in your quest to find your dick:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/brexit-unexpected-consequences/



I refer to his predictions from weeks and months ago which you had been promoting on the forum. If anyone listens to Armstrong to trade in the markets, they'll be poor as church mouse in no time. He has thought provoking read on his website wrt Roman Empire but his making predictions capabilities are subpar. Please leave your dick measuring contest for another occasion.

Or myself writing last week that BREXIT was likely.
Shortly after writing Bremain was in the cards Cheesy Proves you and MA have no clue.
sr. member
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Martin Armstrong turned out to be fallible with his Bremain

Attacking me by attacking any person's name I've ever mentioned. Next you need to compare your pencil dick to your pencil dick, since I mentioned you.

I know facts aren't relevant in your quest to find your dick:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/brexit-unexpected-consequences/

Or myself writing last week that BREXIT was likely.
sr. member
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Lol

And you still have no code to show after all these years of talking. And now Martin Armstrong turned out to be fallible with his Bremain and rate hike and gold down to $800 predictions. Poor soul you.
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