Have a good one!
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Happy new year to all of you!
Have a good one!
Have a good one!
It would certainly be nice if the NRS wallet displayed a message when you entered a password for an account with no public key.
"This is a new wallet (NXT id) with no transactions. If you are trying to access an existing wallet (NXT id) please log out and be sure to enter your password carefully without any extra spaces or characters."
Not sure if it should use "wallet" or "NXT id" or what. I think wallet would probably be more friendly, even if it isn't fully the correct term. Maybe "account" would work too.
"This is a new wallet (NXT id) with no transactions. If you are trying to access an existing wallet (NXT id) please log out and be sure to enter your password carefully without any extra spaces or characters."
Not sure if it should use "wallet" or "NXT id" or what. I think wallet would probably be more friendly, even if it isn't fully the correct term. Maybe "account" would work too.
Good idea on OP. Will do that later.
As to the passphrase: this is integral to what a brainwallet ís. In all actuality the passphrase isn't a "pass" to "unlock" and account at all. In a brainwallet system áll accounts already exist, and the passphrase ís the account. So it's not possible for the system to see if your pass is incorrect, because it's just showing you that actual pass.
Ideas welcome, though, as we are aware this is confusing for people who are used to "unlock this file by this pass" ways of doing things.
If you like something a bit more "traditional" you can use the MOFO wallet, which does use a wallet.dat system: http://www.mofowallet.com/
If you stumble upon a good other way to do this, apart from labelling it full of warnings, let us know.
That's exactly what I thought was going on. I don't have a problem with the brain wallet, but if I end up teaching my students about NXT and/or doing a giveaway to my newsletter, I might use the QT style client.
A couple of ideas to make the official client easier for new people:
- On the sign-in screen add a 2-sentence message above the passphrase field reminding people they need to type it in exactly, including punctuation and capitalization and that if they enter it incorrectly they may see a zero balance but can just sign back out and try again
- Once they're signed in, if possible, you could have the client do a check for whether the wallet had been "activated" (or whatever the term is) and if not prompt them with a message saying their account needs a one-time activation and then offer a button to open the form you linked me to right inside the client - perhaps w autofill of the account ID and the public key?
- I swear I had a third suggestion, but I don't remember now
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the tips, worth
I believe #2 is already in the mofo-wallet, and I will forward these recommendations to our standard client dev.
I just had a look at your website. If you have any questions at some point if you are doing a tutorial, feel free to contact me.
Good idea on OP. Will do that later.
As to the passphrase: this is integral to what a brainwallet ís. In all actuality the passphrase isn't a "pass" to "unlock" and account at all. In a brainwallet system áll accounts already exist, and the passphrase ís the account. So it's not possible for the system to see if your pass is incorrect, because it's just showing you that actual pass.
Ideas welcome, though, as we are aware this is confusing for people who are used to "unlock this file by this pass" ways of doing things.
If you like something a bit more "traditional" you can use the MOFO wallet, which does use a wallet.dat system: http://www.mofowallet.com/
If you stumble upon a good other way to do this, apart from labelling it full of warnings, let us know.
That's exactly what I thought was going on. I don't have a problem with the brain wallet, but if I end up teaching my students about NXT and/or doing a giveaway to my newsletter, I might use the QT style client.
A couple of ideas to make the official client easier for new people:
- On the sign-in screen add a 2-sentence message above the passphrase field reminding people they need to type it in exactly, including punctuation and capitalization and that if they enter it incorrectly they may see a zero balance but can just sign back out and try again
- Once they're signed in, if possible, you could have the client do a check for whether the wallet had been "activated" (or whatever the term is) and if not prompt them with a message saying their account needs a one-time activation and then offer a button to open the form you linked me to right inside the client - perhaps w autofill of the account ID and the public key?
- I swear I had a third suggestion, but I don't remember now
Hope that helps.
Great to see all the progress made in the past months.
It is good to see such an solid team working hard and bringing solid updates an a normal basis.
It is good to see such an solid team working hard and bringing solid updates an a normal basis.
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-4-5/msg144211/#msg144211
Quote from: Jean-Luc
The few reports of crashes on upgrade from 1.3.5 have been caused by insufficient memory. The run.sh and run.bat scripts do not specify -Xmx parameter, need to edit them and add -Xmx1024M or more. This is not a new change, but apparently recent releases have had low enough memory requirements that even running with the default heap was not a problem. It is only the upgrade from 1.3 to 1.4 that requires extra memory, after that or when downloading from scratch, should still be able to run with 512MB heap only.
Hey, can anyone help me with the nxt wallet? I can't run the latest wallet to save my life. I'm trying to run on OSX and I get server errors every time. Kind of disappointing because I've never had wallet problems and I've had nxt right from the start.
check out the NXT forum release thread. The consensus is either modify your .sh file to increase the runtime memory to 1024 or delete the block chain and re-download it.
Thank you; I'll try that.
Hey, can anyone help me with the nxt wallet? I can't run the latest wallet to save my life. I'm trying to run on OSX and I get server errors every time. Kind of disappointing because I've never had wallet problems and I've had nxt right from the start.
check out the NXT forum release thread. The consensus is either modify your .sh file to increase the runtime memory to 1024 or delete the block chain and re-download it.
Hey, can anyone help me with the nxt wallet? I can't run the latest wallet to save my life. I'm trying to run on OSX and I get server errors every time. Kind of disappointing because I've never had wallet problems and I've had nxt right from the start.
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
It will take a while, but have you tried deleting everything and installing 1.4.5. from scratch?
Strange thing is, I had problems a week ago and then downloaded 1.3.1. But still when starting the wallet it says; 2.0.0.
Couldn't find a 1.4.5 wallet, any link?
Oh, you probably were on wesley's client, which unfortunately no longer gets updated (I think someone picked it up and will update sooner or later).
If you want to try out the reference software, you can download it from http://www.nxtforum.org (at the top of the page in red letters)
Now, I get a map with under 1MB data, with no wallet or what so ever, dunno, what to do.
Any idea?
Are you running windows, osx, or linux?
You guys new to NXT could also try the http://www.mofowallet.com/. It is written by the FIM Krypto devs. That's a fork of NXT and the wallet supports both NXT and FIM.
It has a hybrid mode, so it can run without needing to DL the full block chain. It doesn't use proprietary servers, it just connects to the NXT and FIM network nodes. You chose.
It has a wallet.dat mode if you prefer that to the brainwallet setup. When you create an account you can store it in a wallet file encrypted with a password. When you load the app you can chose Open Wallet, select your wallet file, provide your password and viola.
It supports multiple accounts in the wallet if you'd like.
It is really a nice effort. They also update it very quickly when new NRS versions are released if you do run the servers locally (full node blockchain d/l).
It has a hybrid mode, so it can run without needing to DL the full block chain. It doesn't use proprietary servers, it just connects to the NXT and FIM network nodes. You chose.
It has a wallet.dat mode if you prefer that to the brainwallet setup. When you create an account you can store it in a wallet file encrypted with a password. When you load the app you can chose Open Wallet, select your wallet file, provide your password and viola.
It supports multiple accounts in the wallet if you'd like.
It is really a nice effort. They also update it very quickly when new NRS versions are released if you do run the servers locally (full node blockchain d/l).
whatever NXT is cheap now,
I am buying all the time, hold on for long term.
I am buying all the time, hold on for long term.
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
It will take a while, but have you tried deleting everything and installing 1.4.5. from scratch?
Strange thing is, I had problems a week ago and then downloaded 1.3.1. But still when starting the wallet it says; 2.0.0.
Couldn't find a 1.4.5 wallet, any link?
Oh, you probably were on wesley's client, which unfortunately no longer gets updated (I think someone picked it up and will update sooner or later).
If you want to try out the reference software, you can download it from http://www.nxtforum.org (at the top of the page in red letters)
Now, I get a map with under 1MB data, with no wallet or what so ever, dunno, what to do.
Any idea?
Fixed that link to the wallet. Sincere apologies for not taking that one off earlier 
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
It will take a while, but have you tried deleting everything and installing 1.4.5. from scratch?
Strange thing is, I had problems a week ago and then downloaded 1.3.1. But still when starting the wallet it says; 2.0.0.
Couldn't find a 1.4.5 wallet, any link?
Oh, you probably were on wesley's client, which unfortunately no longer gets updated (I think someone picked it up and will update sooner or later).
If you want to try out the reference software, you can download it from http://www.nxtforum.org (at the top of the page in red letters)
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
It will take a while, but have you tried deleting everything and installing 1.4.5. from scratch?
Strange thing is, I had problems a week ago and then downloaded 1.3.1. But still when starting the wallet it says; 2.0.0.
Couldn't find a 1.4.5 wallet, any link?
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
It will take a while, but have you tried deleting everything and installing 1.4.5. from scratch?
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
had the same error, i just deleted the nxt folder and replaced it by the new one, then ran the nxt.bat, closed with ctrl + c.
then i ran the normal wallet again and it started redownloading the blockchain. ofc there could be a different solution, but this worked for me
Hi, today I tried to open wallet and had to make update. Now, when trying to open the wallet, i get the message "NRS server has exited".
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Is there something I can do to open the wallet.
Thanks
Yes, it's the same and should start with NXT- (so something like NXT-KTVK-UYXK-W5YK-8C48E) form.
The public key issue will be resolved soon because we're going to make it optional.
In principle it forced you to announce your public key, but it also makes it much harder for new users to get started...
This site should be helpful in activating that account, by the way: http://jnxt.org/key/
Thanks. That site got it working. Maybe it should be in the OP?
Don't know if this is mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but I've spotted another potential issue from a new user standpoint. When I went to sign into the wallet with my passphrase, I had a small typo and ended up accidentally creating an entirely new wallet. This wasn't immediately obvious (especially as I was expecting the passphrase to be rejected if I entered it incorrectly.
If I understand how your brain wallet system works, perhaps it's impossible to avoid this. Unfortunately it's definitely going to lead to people accidentally creating new wallets and then either failing to notice (if zero balance) and potentially sending new funds to the wrong address, or freaking out because they think their funds have vanished or been stolen because they're signed into a different wallet.
This isn't intended as a complaint, but as an attempt to help. I work teaching computers and technology to non-technical people and so am always trying to look at technology I'm using from their viewpoint so I can be a better teacher, so stuff like this leaps out at me.
Edit: One other thing - I get prompted to update to the new version but then it fails to connect to the update server.
Good idea on OP. Will do that later.
As to the passphrase: this is integral to what a brainwallet ís. In all actuality the passphrase isn't a "pass" to "unlock" and account at all. In a brainwallet system áll accounts already exist, and the passphrase ís the account. So it's not possible for the system to see if your pass is incorrect, because it's just showing you that actual pass.
Ideas welcome, though, as we are aware this is confusing for people who are used to "unlock this file by this pass" ways of doing things.
If you like something a bit more "traditional" you can use the MOFO wallet, which does use a wallet.dat system: http://www.mofowallet.com/
If you stumble upon a good other way to do this, apart from labelling it full of warnings, let us know.
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