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Hey JanpriX, yeah me too, one advantage of Sportsbet is cashout, and at half time it did look tempting, but the way Inter and Ajax were playing, who would have known they would lose composure in the 2nd half?

Football is so strange sometimes, in the way teams play after the break. Momentum swings and then it's all over. But yeah, my picks weren't so bad after all, were they? Even if we lost haha.
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There was a goal right at the death, but it came from Sampdoria instead of SPAL. Tough loss to swallow and Serie A relegation battle heats up.

Champions League tonight and hard to look for upsets as bookies are pretty even on almost all the teams except Barca and Liverpool, but a Genk and Slavia Prague upset seem really really unlikely.

How about we go for much-needed away wins for Ajax and Inter, who have so far played to deceive?

Game 1: Borussia Dortmund vs Inter Milan. Inter WIN @3.55. Betcoin odds: 3.60
Game 2: Chelsea vs Ajax. Ajax WIN @4.32. Betcoin odds: 4.17
100 units parlay at Sportsbet.io: 15.34. Betcoin parlay:15.01
Bet ID: 5dc12cd20eccec4a1c548ae5

Odds advantage: 2.20%
Units advantage: 33

Running advantage after 154 bets: +7,348.41 (+33)
All-time cumulative: +20,347.94
Running units after 153 bets (28W|125L): +6,453.51 (-100 units)
Oh boy, both of these bets were so great on the first half but they let go on the later part of the game. I really thought we would hit again a big one today.  Grin I'm itching to cashout on the halftime but I just let it run because of the adrenaline that it brings to me while watching these games. Anyway, thanks again for the odds/units advantage brother. Really a very close call.
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There was a goal right at the death, but it came from Sampdoria instead of SPAL. Tough loss to swallow and Serie A relegation battle heats up.

Champions League tonight and hard to look for upsets as bookies are pretty even on almost all the teams except Barca and Liverpool, but a Genk and Slavia Prague upset seem really really unlikely.

How about we go for much-needed away wins for Ajax and Inter, who have so far played to deceive?

Game 1: Borussia Dortmund vs Inter Milan. Inter WIN @3.55. Betcoin odds: 3.60
Game 2: Chelsea vs Ajax. Ajax WIN @4.32. Betcoin odds: 4.17
100 units parlay at Sportsbet.io: 15.34. Betcoin parlay:15.01
Bet ID: 5dc12cd20eccec4a1c548ae5

Odds advantage: 2.20%
Units advantage: 33

Running advantage after 154 bets: +7,348.41 (+33)
All-time cumulative: +20,347.94
Running units after 153 bets (28W|125L): +6,453.51 (-100 units)
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Spurs should have won, that was truly bad luck, and no one wants to remember a game like that. The injury was hard to stomach, and for once I am not going to blame them for letting in that goal. Hard to play after that incident. But oh VAR, VAR...

Anyway, SPAL has a tough home game, but they will want daylight between them and rock bottom Sampdoria, so a gritty home win to do just that. Parlay with West Brom who's only lost once, they will condemn Stoke to yet more misery.

Game 1: SPAL vs Sampdoria. SPAL WIN @2.66. Betcoin odds: 2.55
Game 2: Stoke vs West Brom. West Brom WIN @2.39. Betcoin odds: 2.43
100 units parlay at Sportsbet.io @6.36. Betcoin parlay: 6.20
Bet ID: 5dbfcdb421e463622fba4247

Odds advantage: 2.58%
Units advantage: 16

Running advantage after 153 bets: +7,315.41 (+16)
All-time cumulative: +20,314.94
Running units after 152 bets (28W|124L): +6,553.51 (-100 units)
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Exciting night last night, so much so I"m not even really sad I lost both picks.

Spurs play away today to an Everton somehow finding some form (?) and at almost 3/1 I have to say it's really good value, cause Spurs aren't THAT bad! Parlay with a Foxes win?

Game 1: Everton vs Tottenham Hotspur. Spurs WIN @2.83. Sportsbet odds: 2.80
Game 2: Crystal Palace vs Leicester City. Leicester WIN @2.04. Sportsbet odds: 2.02
100 units parlay at Betcoin @5.7732. Sportsbet parlay: 5.656

Odds advantage: 2.07%
Units advantage: 11.72

Running advantage after 152 bets: +7,299.41 (+11.72)
All-time cumulative: +20,298.94
Running units after 151 bets (28W|123L): +6,653.51 (-200 units)
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@JanPriX and others, hope you guys didn't miss out my bet yesterday;)
Hell yeah brother! (can I call you brother?) LOL. A little bit late of reply due to holiday in our country but man, that pick was insane and I'm so glad that I started to follow your picks few days ago. This is the first time that I won so much money from a parlay because I didn't bet many parlays in the past. There a sense of fulfillment when I saw that your tips won BIG time. And because of that, I wanted to thank you and hoping that you still continue to do this in the coming months/years.  Grin

Haha no don't worry, I'm not asking for acknowledgement at all, just having a bit of fun, and yes I do enjoy my big wins a lot. This season is not even a third done and we've already booked perhaps 3 or 4 huge upsets already now? And you know, we missed out big upsets last night too: Barcelona and Munich both lost, though I guess their opponents weren't also tipped with such high odds, or it would have crept on my radar (basically anything more than 10/1 interests me haha).

Still, last night was so full of drama it was almost worth losing;) Almost!

Oh, yeah, call me anything you want. This is the internet =p
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@JanPriX and others, hope you guys didn't miss out my bet yesterday;)
Hell yeah brother! (can I call you brother?) LOL. A little bit late of reply due to holiday in our country but man, that pick was insane and I'm so glad that I started to follow your picks few days ago. This is the first time that I won so much money from a parlay because I didn't bet many parlays in the past. There a sense of fulfillment when I saw that your tips won BIG time. And because of that, I wanted to thank you and hoping that you still continue to do this in the coming months/years.  Grin
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@JanPriX and others, hope you guys didn't miss out my bet yesterday;) Yes, you would have lost 5 in a row after following me, but like I said, I have an awful win ratio, as you can see, but I do tend to hit big;) Now up 6800 units or 68% of season bankroll after 148 bets=D

And picking Dijon was actually not as bad as it seemed on paper. They really outplayed PSG on the counter, were actually really unlucky to go behind as they had 4 shots on goal -- PSG only had 1. Credit to them for leveling, leading, and then defending for their lives!

Anyway, Liverpool parlay with Wolves is good value for me. Wolves did already win away at City, and they continue to play good football, just for some reason can't string together wins. Arsenal is perfect opponent, physically weak and easy to bother. And what's the point of winning if I can't parlay with the Reds?

Game 1: Aston Villa vs Liverpool. Liverpool WIN @1.39. BCR odds: 1.37
Game 2: Arsenal vs Wolves. Wolves WIN @4.65. BCR odds: 4.37
100 units parlay at Betcoin @6.4635. BCR parlay: 5.9869
Odds advantage: 7.96%
Units advantage: 47.66

Also, Southampton! 100 units on Southampton vs Man City. SAINTS WIN @30.84. Betcoin odds: 28.14
Odds advantage: 9.59%
Units advantage: 270

Total units advantage: 317.66

Running advantage after 151 bets: +7,287.69 (+317.66)
All-time cumulative: +20,287.22
Running units after 149 bets (28W|121L): +6,853.51 (+1,837.46 units)
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Boring! None of my upsets hit, but I would probably have been gutted if Granada came away with it and the other easier legs folded.

I'm a sucker for PSG defeats and they've got problems haven't they? Bottom Dijon win please? And because we're suckers for pain, Hoffenheim parlay.

Game 1: Dijon Fco vs PSG. Dijon WIN @13.18. Sportsbet odds: 9.80
Game 2: 1899 Hoffenheim-SC Paderborn 07. Hoffenheim WIN @1.47. Sportsbet odds: 1.45
100 units parlay at Betcoin @19.3746. Sportsbet parlay: 14.21

Odds advantage: 36.34%
Units advantage: 516.46

Running advantage after 149 bets: +6,970.03 (+516.46)
All-time cumulative: +19,969.56
Running units after 148 bets (27W|121L): +5,016.05 (-100 units)
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Liverpool was always going to be a huge gamble, with most of the youth squad playing. I was almost sure they'd have played Adrian in goal though, at least, and he'd maybe not have let in SO many goals but all the same, we made it through, just now lost all outstanding bets.

Feeling good about away wins in La Liga, go Granada!

Game 1: Eibar vs Villarreal. Villareal WIN @2.67. Sportsbet odds: 2.63
Game 2: Getafe vs Granada. Granada WIN @4.62. Sportsbet odds: 4.55
Game 3: AC Milan-SPAL. Milan WIN @1.55. Sportsbet odds: 1.54
100 units parlay at Betcoin @19.1198. Sportsbet parlay: 18.4284

Odds advantage: 3.75%
Units advantage: 69.14

Running advantage after 148 bets: +6,453.57 (+69.14)
All-time cumulative: +19,453.1
Running units after 147 bets (27W|120L): +5,116.05 (-200 units)
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Strike on both bets and on all legs! Watford didn't win and have 1 less competition to worry about, but Atletico conceded 10 minutes from time anyway, so we already lost that parlay before Watford took to the field.

Southampton also to their credit didn't lose, but letting Otamendi score? Heh. Anyway, the good news is the Foxes completed 1 leg of our earlier parlay, and we'll see if Liverpool carries us to the final leg on the weekend.

But for today, I'm doubling down on Liverpool, and parlaying with Napoli (I want them to do well in Serie A too, even if they're in our group for CL).

Game 1: Liverpool vs Arsenal. Liverpool WIN @2.01. Betcoin odds: 2.04
Game 2: Napoli vs Atalanta. Napoli WIN @2.16. Betcoin odds: 2.10
100 units at Sportsbet.io @4.34. Betcoin odds: 4.28
Bet ID: 5db94e2c4cdf10ea75c5d177

Odds advantage: 1.4%
Units advantage: 6

Running advantage after 147 bets: +6,384.43 (+6)
All-time cumulative: +19,383.96
Running units after 145 bets (27W|118L): +5,316.05 (-200 units, 1 game TBD)
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The English League Cup. Always had mixed feelings about this one and we've already booked Liverpool in yesterday's bet yet to settle but I'm going to go for a tricky parlay today. Watford should have won the game against Spurs, and maybe even nicked a goal in their last draw. 10 winless games in the league, so maybe they get their joy in cup games like they did last season. And maybe Everton's poor form continues?

And if that's not risky enough, let's parlay it with a much-needed win for Atletico in La Liga.

Game 1: Deportivo Alaves vs Atletico Madrid. Atletico WIN @1.76. Sportsbet odds: 1.69
Game 2: Everton vs Watford. Watford WIN @5.30. Sportsbet odds: 5.20
100 units parlay at Betcoin @9.328. Sportsbet parlay: 8.788

Odds advantage: 6.11%
Units advantage: 13.36

Edit: adding City, DUH.
100 units at Bitcoinrush on Southampton to WIN vs Manchester City @26.53. Betcoin odds: 24.7. Sportsbet odds: 15.98 (with boost) only!
Odds advantage: 7.41%
Units advantage: 183

Total units advantage: 196.36

Running advantage after 146 bets: +6,378.43 (+196.36)
All-time cumulative: +19,377.96
Running units after 143 bets (27W|116L): +5,516.05 (1 game TBD)

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I would say the perfect answer for this is to use as many books as you can as long as they are trusted , there is no best book IMO and what's considered the worst book may have best odds rarely ( of course not considering nitrogen since all what they offer is pinnacle + extra juice )
I remember once placing a bet with directbet while they were having better odds than all the other bitcoin books , and directbet odds were really terrible with insane margins but that was the single time I had a bet with them while they are offering the best odds

sometimes books take time to adjust the odds and if you take advantage of these delays you will have great value


Spot on, Sy. And I think to be perfectly fair to other bookies -- I probably would take the time to view them more often, had I the time. And that's not to say I don't, either. It's always nice to check out the other bookies every now and then, and keep yourself updated, especially if you bet frequently. It all adds up in the long-term, and if you're a compound gambler, then every tiny percentage point gain adds up even more!

Really appreciate everyone's input here!
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guess who's back

I know also that other seasoned gamblers here like SyGambler or DarkStar or LFC_Bitcoin or Trofo (I realise now I could rattle off on a list haha) will probably know better bookies for other options like Asian handicaps or North American sports, but since the majority of my bets are on the big European leagues (and I love Asian and African tourneys too actually), these are my four bookies.


I would say the perfect answer for this is to use as many books as you can as long as they are trusted , there is no best book IMO and what's considered the worst book may have best odds rarely ( of course not considering nitrogen since all what they offer is pinnacle + extra juice )
I remember once placing a bet with directbet while they were having better odds than all the other bitcoin books , and directbet odds were really terrible with insane margins but that was the single time I had a bet with them while they are offering the best odds

sometimes books take time to adjust the odds and if you take advantage of these delays you will have great value
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Nice thread. I will start to follow too. Big point on the slightest odds difference. In Sportsbet, most of the time I only have 1 bet per sport daily. Early this year, I started to realize that Sportsbet's price booster matters in the long run. I cannot diversify my bets per sport and I have to be more careful with my picks but I did saved good amount compared to before. I seldom do parlays though, too busy irl to analyze.   

Your options for now are Sportsbet, Betcoin, BitcoinRush and Fairlay or did I miss a thing? I'll try some of your parlays.

Well done you picked exactly the four bookies I currently use to compare! I know Nitrogensports is popular in this forum but they use the exact same provider as BitcoinRush but with far higher margins, so I even stopped using them to compare.

I know also that other seasoned gamblers here like SyGambler or DarkStar or LFC_Bitcoin or Trofo (I realise now I could rattle off on a list haha) will probably know better bookies for other options like Asian handicaps or North American sports, but since the majority of my bets are on the big European leagues (and I love Asian and African tourneys too actually), these are my four bookies.

My observations: Fairlay and BitcoinRush are the absolute winners in general for long odds. Sportsbet can have poor odds but with their daily price boost, it can usually beat the others out, especially if you choose a good leg on a parlay. Betcoin actually seems to vary wildly, but they have the most lines when it comes to exotic leagues or lower leagues, and sometimes can give you really smashing odds. This is the option I use most for parlays because they seem to have better overall odds when it comes to favourites or slight underdogs (which form my parlay in general).

I also bet only 1 bet daily, actually. I DO put 2 or even 3 down on bigger days sometimes but normally as a "hedge" to my longshot bets haha.

Remember, it's all for fun. I don't consider myself and expert like some tipsters, and this thread, as I like to remind, is more about gaining odds advantage and how big it matters in the long run. It's simply about not leaving money on the table!
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Nice thread. I will start to follow too. Big point on the slightest odds difference. In Sportsbet, most of the time I only have 1 bet per sport daily. Early this year, I started to realize that Sportsbet's price booster matters in the long run. I cannot diversify my bets per sport and I have to be more careful with my picks but I did saved good amount compared to before. I seldom do parlays though, too busy irl to analyze.   

Your options for now are Sportsbet, Betcoin, BitcoinRush and Fairlay or did I miss a thing? I'll try some of your parlays.
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Game 1: Burton Albion vs Leicester City. Leicester WIN @1.38. Betcoin odds: 1.37
Game 2: Liverpool vs Arsenal. Liverpool WIN @1.81. Betcoin odds: 1.75
Game 3: Aston Villa vs Liverpool. Liverpool WIN @1.35. Betcoin odds: 1.35
100 units parlay at Sportsbetio @3.37. Betcoin parlay: 3.2366
BET ID: 5db6ae83e0a57f0d1d60d079

Odds advantage: 4.12%
Units advantage: 13.36
Will start to follow your tips here moving forward. Though I'm only betting little amount of BTC. Quick question, will you honestly advice to start tailing you even if you are in middle of the season already or is it better for me to follow you once the new season starts?



Hey JanpriX, thank you for the follow!

Just a few things to note before you rush in;)!

1. I bet very, very casually. When I started this last season (2018), each unit was 1000 satoshi but price has since about doubled so now 1 unit is 500 satoshi (you can find that explanation in OP). So basically my 100 units is a guide, you can choose however you want to number those units, but for me now the average bet then means it's worth around $4 or $5.

2. This isn't so much a tipster thread as it is a thread to demonstrate how much more you can win simply by taking the time to compare several bookies and choosing the one with the best odds or lowest margins. For example, just check the last City upset I picked when they lost to Wolves: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52667961

Just by choosing Bitcoinrush who offered odds of 21.66, over the next closest bookie, Sportsbet.io with odds of 17.00, I won an extra 466 units. I didn't bet differently, I simply took 5 minutes to compared odds!

3. I'm a longshot better, but I do watch for form and look for "value" bets. For example Wolves 21/1 to win? I think if they played 20 games against City, they would win a couple at least, so THAT is value for me! So you can see I have a very poor win ratio, but most of my wins are "big"Wink

Good luck and don't follow me if your life depended on it! Just enjoy the game like I do;)

Oh and to answer your question, doesn't matter when to tail.
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Game 1: Burton Albion vs Leicester City. Leicester WIN @1.38. Betcoin odds: 1.37
Game 2: Liverpool vs Arsenal. Liverpool WIN @1.81. Betcoin odds: 1.75
Game 3: Aston Villa vs Liverpool. Liverpool WIN @1.35. Betcoin odds: 1.35
100 units parlay at Sportsbetio @3.37. Betcoin parlay: 3.2366
BET ID: 5db6ae83e0a57f0d1d60d079

Odds advantage: 4.12%
Units advantage: 13.36
Will start to follow your tips here moving forward. Though I'm only betting little amount of BTC. Quick question, will you honestly advice to start tailing you even if you are in middle of the season already or is it better for me to follow you once the new season starts?

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Eh, who'd have thought OGS could find a team to miss 2 penalties, and still win their 2nd away game in a row eh? Maybe it's good United start to peak after they meet us, so they can help swipe a couple of points or more off City!

Anyway, I'm going to try something new today, on days like today where I absolutely don't feel like picking a team. Won a nice freebet yesterday from Sportsbet (and still won my Liverpool bet!) so using it on a week-long parlay involving mid-week cup games that'll only settle on the weekend's EPL action. No problem, right?

Game 1: Burton Albion vs Leicester City. Leicester WIN @1.38. Betcoin odds: 1.37
Game 2: Liverpool vs Arsenal. Liverpool WIN @1.81. Betcoin odds: 1.75
Game 3: Aston Villa vs Liverpool. Liverpool WIN @1.35. Betcoin odds: 1.35
100 units parlay at Sportsbetio @3.37. Betcoin parlay: 3.2366
BET ID: 5db6ae83e0a57f0d1d60d079

Odds advantage: 4.12%
Units advantage: 13.36

Running advantage after 144 bets: +6,182.07 (+13.36)
All-time cumulative: +19,181.6
Running units after 143 bets (27W|116L): +5,516.05 (-100 units)
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A tale of two halves, typical. The villains rode their luck but actually made City look pretty bad in the first half. And then lapse of concentration and you get punished. Never recovered from the Sterling strike on 1st minute of 2nd half.

Liverpool of course gets my nod today and I think bookies are being a bit disrespectful to Spurs with the odds, especially after they meted out a mid-week thrashing in the Champions League.

Still. Let's go for a Norwich upset. Pukki should be on form, United got their first away win but they will struggle without Pogba.

Game 1: Liverpool vs Tottenham Hotspur. Liverpool WIN @1.55. Sportsbet odds: 1.54
Game 2: Norwich City-Manchester United. Norwich WIN @4.06. Sportsbet odds: 4.00
100 units parlay at Betcoin @6.293. Sportsbet parlay: 6.16

Odds advantage: 2.16%
Units advantage: 13.3

Running advantage after 143 bets: +6,168.71 (+13.3)
All-time cumulative: +19,168.24
Running units after 142 bets (27W|115L): +5,616.05 (-100 units)
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