Topic: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +36315 units - page 80. (Read 38849 times)

guess also you should add up how much more you get back as betbacks with rush as well
this thread will be epic when it reaches like 1000 bets and people realize how much money compound over time they will get by just betting with rush 

So the bore draw I feared in UEFA Nations League happened in both legs of yesterday's parlay, would have been an incredible return had I actually did both legs on draws. But he who dwelleth on losses may not lose more, so today we go again.

This time, we shift focus to Africa Cup of Nations. Egypt meet Niger, while Morocco plays Malawi. Both Egypt and Morocco are heavy favourites and bookies aren't tipping these to be high scoring games, but let's have a go anyway:

Game 1 Egypt/Niger over 2.5 goals @1.96. Closest competitor odds: 1.945
Odds advantage: + 0.77%, units advantage: +1.5
Game 2 Morocco/Malawi over 2.5 goals @1.98. Closest competitor odds: 1.963
Odds advantage: + 0.87%, units advantage: +1.7

Parlay for 100 units (1 unit = 1,000 satoshi) @3.8846. Competitor parlay @3.818
Total Odds advantage: +1.74%
Total Units advantage: +6.7 units

Thank you buddy, it's really encouraging to hear from a fellow Red! I'll be happy if the few actual gamblers/football fans I know here are the only ones following! I didn't really intend to make this a tipster thread since I tend to bet with my gut when it comes to games I'm watching, but anyway yes, I'll start keeping a running tab on bets with units too, maybe that'll provide extra interest!


Yeah, I might end up being the worst tipster, but like you said, the main point of this threat is to show how even regularly choosing better odds puts you up a big advantage over even one season of betting!

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So from today onwards, I'll try keep tabs on running P/L as well.

Yesterday's parlay worked out well, and today, we'll take a look at the UEFA Nations League again. Yesterday's big game ended up still looking very much like the non-competitive friendlies that this competition was trying to improve on, but for some of the smaller nations, it's a big chance to fight for a place in EURO 2020 which they otherwise almost never get a sniff at.

Another 2-game parlay:
Game 1 is Italy vs Poland, the Azzurri will want to make some sort of impression after swallowing months of pride watching the last tourney so a ML on them @1.61 is good value to me. Closest competitor odds: 1.599
Odds advantage: +0.69%, units advantage: +1.1

Game 2 will be Romania vs Montenegro. This is the risk, even though there's a clear favourite, as it could end up being a bore draw. Nevertheless, good odds for me @1.72. Closest competitor odds: 1.714
Odds advantage: +0.35%, units advantage: +0.6

Parlay for 100 units (1 unit = 1,000 satoshi) @2.7762. Competitor parlay @2.7407
Total Odds advantage: +1.29%
Total Units advantage: +3.6

hmm well to be honest I don't think this is a tips thread but sure it can qualify if it has a lot of units won , at the end we are all tipsters and what matters is making profit over a large sample 

the point of this thread as I understood is just to let people know about the great odds of bitcoinrush and how they are leaving money on the table while betting with other sites 

buwaytress my old friend, nice to see you start your own thread as a tipster. I’ll follow your picks for sure. You should keep a winning % somewhere in the OP so people can trust you, if you do well then you can start charging people for weekly or daily picks etc.

Joca97 has been doing it for years.

Best of luck any way, I know you’ll do well

Thank you for that, and of course, you're right, some people just want to bet big and there are places that cater to high rollers.

I'd love to compare on big bets too but it's really seldom that I place anything greater than 0.01 BTC (Liverpool in big games typically!) so I've never faced these limits.

I highly doubt the mainstream gambler (whose camp I firmly belong to!) will ever regularly want to place a bet higher than that allowed. Bitcoin gambling already typically offers among the highest limits (when compared to fiat).

In that sense, I'd say BCR caters to the mainstream. I must confess, I don't know how they compare to other bookies when it comes to limits. Let's see if sports whales can feed us some insight.

To offer a different perspective, sometimes a higher maximum bet could be more attractive than odds. It is true that higher winnings can potentially be achieved by higher betting odds. On the other side of the equation, the same may be achieved with greater max bets via greater risk / greater reward.

Some books limit betting to 0.1 BTC or lower(on certain games). Those low limits are sometimes on games people wish they could lay 0.5 BTC or more, where books will limit betting 0.03 or a relatively low sum.

I'm not certain if I'm a professional gambler. There is a chance I might qualify. Although I could see myself quitting in the near future if books limit me, etc.

Thank you for your comments, SyGambler, it means a lot coming from a recognised sports bettor like yourself. I'm generally a loyal consumer when it comes to internet... I stuck to Netscape for a long time, then Firefox even when they got considerably slower and less user friendly, but when it comes to gambling, I switch as soon as I find something better. And nothing speaks to me louder than odds!

Lost yesterday's tennis match (damn you Cilic) but today I thought I'd use a parlay to demonstrate how even tiny odd advantages can really add up. Two football internationals on my parlay, one from the new EUFA Nations League and one from the SAFF championships. On their own, ML single bets aren't worth that much but for what I feel is almost certain victories, a parlay return makes sense.

Game 1 Bhutan vs Nepal, Nepal to win @1.24 - closest competitor odds: 1.239
So that's an odds advantage of +0.08% and a unit advantage of only 0.1

Game 2 Norway vs Cyprus, Norway to win @1.36 - closest competitor odds: 1.354
Odds advantage +0.44% and unit advantage of only 0.6

But on a parlay, my bookie gives me @1.693 - closest competitor: 1.677
Total odds advantage: +0.95%
Total units advantage: +1.6

Running units advantage after 2 bets: +4.3

great thread mate , I have been trying so hard to bring the gamblers here into bitcoinrush since there is no point in sticking to a certain site when there is a better site that offers their customers better payouts and better returns

every single 1% makes difference in the long run even if you aren't gambling professionally
bitcoinrush is my #1 bookie , and without them my profits would be less than what it's now especially with tennis where I failed to find a single site that competes with rush

I've been asked a few times why even the smallest odds difference matters for me when I gamble. I'm not a professional gambler, nor do I spend a lot on gambling, but when it comes to sports, I feel there is an obvious difference. For me it's just a practical choice to choose the bookie that gives me the most returns, even if I don't gamble much.

So I'm starting a thread to track actual bets I made, comparing odds with what most regard to be the best Bitcoin sportsbook! Since odds can change over time, I thought it would be fair to try make the comparisons at the same time, within 2 minutes of each other. So I will refresh the competitor odds as soon as I place my bet.

I should mention: no intention to beat down any bookie here. I'm also not paid to do this, just want to show in the interest of a bit of gambling discussion.

For each bet, I'll display the odds advantage in percentage (my odds/closest competing odds) with a link to my betslip. I'll also update a running units advantage, based on an assumption that every bet is made with 100 units, to further show why even a small odds advantage can translate to bigger winnings over time.

==>Edit on 22 September 2018. Adding BetKing and NitrogenSports as odds comparisons. Possibly adding BetKing to make bets, as they appear to have better odds on some lines with BitcoinRush.

==>Edit on 11 October 2018. I have been making bets in terms of units, on a starting bankroll of 0.1 BTC, where 1 unit = 0.00001 BTC/1,000 satoshi. Each bet is typically made with 1% of starting bankroll and a personal max of 3%, so you will see they are 100 units (0.001 BTC). At 20% profit or loss, I will adjust the unit rate up or down. [Edit 29 May 2019]. I ended up not adjusting the bets at all and keeping to 1% of original bankroll of 1 mBTC/0.001 BTC/100,000 satoshi. Too difficult to remember and do up decimals to be honest!

==> Most current odds update. For parlays, it is now Bitcoinrush and Betcoin as comparisons. For single bets Fairlay has by far the most competitive. Nitrogen no longer features in comparisons as will always have higher margins than Bitcoinrush, while Betking has stopped its sportsbook.

==> Edit 25 June 2019. SEASON 1 has ended with 81.76% profit and all full statistics can be found here. We now reset all stats except running units advantage.

==========This below was the first bet posted on this thread. I was a Noob.====================
1. It will be tennis (US Open) for my opening bet shared: a ML win for Marin Cilic at odds of 1.660. Odds at closest competitor: 1.633

Odds advantage: +1.65%
Units advantage (100 unit bet): +2.7