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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 11:45:33 AM

Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 10:46:41 AM

I thought England will run away with the match because they got a really good start and i even placed a small bet for England to win after seeing that start and their star studded batting lineup.

Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul are back in form after a string of failed innings and Krunal Pandya batted well and picked up a wicket on his debut and Bhuvneshwar Kumar is always the miser with his accurate line and length and Shardul Thakur is a master against left hand batsman with his slower balls and variations.

India have won matches from a losing position several times during this series, while England have lost despite good starts. At one point, England were cruising at 135/0 after just 14 overs. At that point, the required run rate was under 5.50 per over and they had 10 wickets in hand. And from that position, they somehow managed to lose that match. The England team management need to introspect about the strategy.

@Vishnu.Reang this match proves the proverb right i.e. slow and steady wins the race, here team India posted only 65 runs in 15 overs but made sure they understood the pitch well before accelerating their innings, however England decided to fire right from the start and then started to play in overconfidence. Furthermore do you’ll believe that dew is no longer a factor, because even with India bowling second they managed to pick 10 wickets for the victory?.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 10:46:41 AM

I thought England will run away with the match because they got a really good start and i even placed a small bet for England to win after seeing that start and their star studded batting lineup.

Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul are back in form after a string of failed innings and Krunal Pandya batted well and picked up a wicket on his debut and Bhuvneshwar Kumar is always the miser with his accurate line and length and Shardul Thakur is a master against left hand batsman with his slower balls and variations.

India have won matches from a losing position several times during this series, while England have lost despite good starts. At one point, England were cruising at 135/0 after just 14 overs. At that point, the required run rate was under 5.50 per over and they had 10 wickets in hand. And from that position, they somehow managed to lose that match. The England team management need to introspect about the strategy.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 09:05:07 AM

Bairstow is in beast mode and bullying every one, its also shows that how beautifully English bowlers bowled in the 1st powerplay against the Indian openers.
You think hey we got the breakthrough but then Stokes comes in, then he goes. You think again wow!! Only to realize that next 2 batsmen are Eoin Morgan and Jos buttler Grin

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India need to keep thing tight in the middle order..

LORD THAKUR !!!! haha

I thought England will run away with the match because they got a really good start and i even placed a small bet for England to win after seeing that start and their star studded batting lineup.

Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul are back in form after a string of failed innings and Krunal Pandya batted well and picked up a wicket on his debut and Bhuvneshwar Kumar is always the miser with his accurate line and length and Shardul Thakur is a master against left hand batsman with his slower balls and variations.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 09:05:07 AM

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LORD THAKUR !!!! haha

Not 1, Not 2 it's actually three wickets for the Lord Takur and it seems he wanted to seal a permanent spot in all the formats of Indian team because he is becoming the wicket-taking bowler for team India in recent weeks.

Eng already lost 5 wickets, at some time they are in dominating wickets but they kept losing wickets back to back in the quick overs made them into be trouble.Can they still have any chances after such furious start?

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Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.

A smart target but poor display of fielding lead them today's game. Their bowling and fielding departments didn't perform well that's why they lost this match otherwise they would have won the match. I watched 1st innings, it was satisfying to watch Bangladesh batting that helps post a great total on the board. Overall Improved performance but have to be more clinical in fielding.

Bangladesh batted very well compared to the first match. But their bowling was very weak. They did a lot of fielding misses in the match. I could not find a skilled and experienced bowler in the Bangladesh team. The whole team is in a state of turmoil now.

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Phew Finally... 2 quick wickets.

Bairstow is in beast mode and bullying every one, its also shows that how beautifully English bowlers bowled in the 1st powerplay against the Indian openers.

You think hey we got the breakthrough but then Stokes comes in, then he goes. You think again wow!! Only to realize that next 2 batsmen are Eoin Morgan and Jos buttler Grin

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India need to keep thing tight in the middle order..

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LORD THAKUR !!!! haha

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 08:25:10 AM

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India will most probably win this one unless their bowlers mess up big-time. Bhuvi will probably be the X-factor.

Also, Dhawan - 98(Sad) and Rahul - 62. This is why I called them great assets currently and Kohli along with the team management made the right choice silencing the critics.

Instead of whining about their failures here and there, it's better to focus on their achievements in all formats of Cricket. This is why I strongly believe that these 2 players deserve more chances in the future.

"Silenced the critics?" They got a dozen chances and finally they performed. The difference is that the younger players such as Shaw, Gill and Kishan were dropped after just one bad performance. Anyway, now their slot seems to be confirmed for the rest of the year and let's see how that works for them. Prasidh Krishna had a disappointing debut, and he gave away 37 runs from 3 overs. Apart from Bhuvneshwar Kumar, other bowlers are conceding too many runs.

Finally he took The wicket of Roy, Eng is still in the dominating position because they just need another 183 runs in the next 35 overs so Ind need more wickets which will shatter the Eng batting line up for sure. Good to see that Dhawan and Rahul is getting their form back and the debutant Krunal was excellent in the final overs.

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Quote from: Iranus on March 23, 2021, 12:17:50 AM

Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.

A smart target but poor display of fielding lead them today's game. Their bowling and fielding departments didn't perform well that's why they lost this match otherwise they would have won the match. I watched 1st innings, it was satisfying to watch Bangladesh batting that helps post a great total on the board. Overall Improved performance but have to be more clinical in fielding.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 23, 2021, 07:58:50 AM

India will most probably win this one unless their bowlers mess up big-time. Bhuvi will probably be the X-factor.

Also, Dhawan - 98(Sad) and Rahul - 62. This is why I called them great assets currently and Kohli along with the team management made the right choice silencing the critics.

Instead of whining about their failures here and there, it's better to focus on their achievements in all formats of Cricket. This is why I strongly believe that these 2 players deserve more chances in the future.

"Silenced the critics?" They got a dozen chances and finally they performed. The difference is that the younger players such as Shaw, Gill and Kishan were dropped after just one bad performance. Anyway, now their slot seems to be confirmed for the rest of the year and let's see how that works for them. Prasidh Krishna had a disappointing debut, and he gave away 37 runs from 3 overs. Apart from Bhuvneshwar Kumar, other bowlers are conceding too many runs.

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India will most probably win this one unless their bowlers mess up big-time. Bhuvi will probably be the X-factor.

Also, Dhawan - 98(Sad) and Rahul - 62. This is why I called them great assets currently and Kohli along with the team management made the right choice silencing the critics.

Instead of whining about their failures here and there, it's better to focus on their achievements in all formats of Cricket. This is why I strongly believe that these 2 players deserve more chances in the future.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 07:20:23 AM

Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.

England bowlers conceded more than 110 runs in the last 10 overs. Their bowling was OK till then, but from the 40th over it went really bad. When Hardik Pandya got out, India were 205/5 with just 9.3 overs left. Two new batsmen were at the crease (Krunal Pandya and KL Rahul). I thought England would be able to wrap up the Indian innings for less than 250. But in the end, India managed a massive score (317/5). Really pathetic depth bowling from England.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 07:20:23 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 06:32:58 AM

It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.

Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.

315 is not a big target for England and also because the track is good for batting. I think Indian bowlers have to try very hard to defend the target. Still it is very early now let see how the match turns out, pretty excit as I believe this should be a close match.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 06:32:58 AM

It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.

Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.

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It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.

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England is fighting back, they took out 2 set batsmen Kohli-Dhawan out of the equation and Shryas very cheaply with in 5 overs. Before I was expecting big total of 320 + runs but now its adjusted to 290-300. Let's see what happens in the last 10 overs with powerplay.
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Oh boy Hardik is gone. Now 300 looking tough.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 23, 2021, 03:46:30 AM

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A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.

Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

The so called assets (especially Dhawan) are rather turning out to be a burden to team India. The question is not whether Dhawan is an asset or not. The question here is why he is being given so many opportunities, when the younger players are dropped after just one bad match. Kohli has made the Indian team his personal fiefdom with his selection bias and nepotism. The younger players are being treated very harshly.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 23, 2021, 03:20:53 AM

Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss.

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A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.

Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

Shikhar Dhawan is a 35 year old asset and his domestic performance in the recently concluded series and his last ten scores looks like this (23, 5, 77, 0, 0, 6, 0, 153, 44, 4) as if there are no other talents in India, KL Rahul is struggling in T20 and if that continues in ODI he will be replaced as he scored just 15 runs in his last 5 innings with a staggering average of 3. How long you will give these assets time to perform when there are promising young players waiting to get a spot.

Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.
[/quote]The above mentioned flaws and then the fielding as they are missing catches every match and no one talks about them when India is winning, when a team is winning no one will highlight these flaws and that is what i meant by lucky to hide the flaws as well.

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Until now both the openers are playing calm and controlled, not taking too many risky shots.And its good to see both of them have a good start and they need to convert them into 50s or bigger than that to take the team into the winning side. About the pitch, looks flattish so this could be a high scoring game in my opinion.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.

Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.

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Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss. Back in Australia also he lost the toss most of the times. Anyway, India has started "cautiously", with Dhawan and Rohit. The England pace attack looks a bit blunt, in the absence of Jofra Archer. Mark Wood performs best, when Archer is bowling from the other end.

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