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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 24, 2021, 11:07:59 PM

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Shakib to Bangladesh cricket is what Virat Kohli is for Indian cricket, and Steve Smith is for Australia. But how the boards deal with these players is diametrically different. Shakib is always involved in some dispute with the board and the BCB members seems to be having ego issues towards him. On the other hand, the BCCI treats Virat like he is the god. Even the coach bows down to him and the team selection is done as per his preferences. Smith is not in a position as worse as Shakib, but CA didn't supported him when he was banned for ball tampering allegations.

There are voice coming from others for the BCCI supporting Virat Kohli blindly and whatever he says will be executed and he is in a different space altogether and the situation with Shakib Al Hasan and their cricket board is soar and if not for his talents he will be sitting at home. Steve Smith had that same reputation with the board but after the ball tampering incident that honeymoon period is over but not that soar.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 24, 2021, 11:07:59 PM

Shakib to Bangladesh cricket is what Virat Kohli is for Indian cricket, and Steve Smith is for Australia. But how the boards deal with these players is diametrically different. Shakib is always involved in some dispute with the board and the BCB members seems to be having ego issues towards him. On the other hand, the BCCI treats Virat like he is the god. Even the coach bows down to him and the team selection is done as per his preferences. Smith is not in a position as worse as Shakib, but CA didn't supported him when he was banned for ball tampering allegations.

Shakib has established himself as a legendary all-rounder in Cricket, but he has a bad personality basically which is why it makes sense why the BCB have serious issues with him. Both of them are at fault here.

I agree with your opinion about Kohli being treated in a divine manner which needs to change. Also, Smith and Warner totally deserved the harsh treatment from CA since they needed to set an example which they clearly did.

All 3 boards dealt with their star players in different ways which attracted support and anger related to their decisions.

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Just looking at the India and England team, how far ahead they are going as compare to other teams. Recently England also played and won again Pakistan with their Tier 2 team. They, India and England both have developed 2 teams each which can beat any international team. Aussies are losing the winning streak and the rest of the teams are worthless who only perform once in a while.

I think you are under estimating the West Indies team here. They have won the T20 series against Australia and also level the ODI series 1-1.

Its never easy to beat Australian team and this shows that West Indies are again emerging as one of the best teams.

I mean the West Indies team is not emerging as a strong team, the Australia team has lost their old reputation. The Australian players are not in good form now. The Australian team has been unstable for a long time. Earlier, they also lost the series against New Zealand and India. Their time is going bad.

I think you are right. The Australian team has had a very bad rhythm. They should have done better against a team like West Indies. But we have to admit that the West Indies team has improved a lot. Their performance against Australia is stable. In almost every match they are batting quite well, at the same time their bowlers are doing their duty properly.

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Just looking at the India and England team, how far ahead they are going as compare to other teams. Recently England also played and won again Pakistan with their Tier 2 team. They, India and England both have developed 2 teams each which can beat any international team. Aussies are losing the winning streak and the rest of the teams are worthless who only perform once in a while.

I think you are under estimating the West Indies team here. They have won the T20 series against Australia and also level the ODI series 1-1.

Its never easy to beat Australian team and this shows that West Indies are again emerging as one of the best teams.

I mean the West Indies team is not emerging as a strong team, the Australia team has lost their old reputation. The Australian players are not in good form now. The Australian team has been unstable for a long time. Earlier, they also lost the series against New Zealand and India. Their time is going bad.

You cannot underestimate the WestIndian side, there are players in that team who have consistently performed in T20 matches. They have a lot of experience in hand too. I would not comment on which teams will dominate the upcoming T20 WorldCup but I am certain West Indies team will be one of them.

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Just looking at the India and England team, how far ahead they are going as compare to other teams. Recently England also played and won again Pakistan with their Tier 2 team. They, India and England both have developed 2 teams each which can beat any international team. Aussies are losing the winning streak and the rest of the teams are worthless who only perform once in a while.

I think you are under estimating the West Indies team here. They have won the T20 series against Australia and also level the ODI series 1-1.

Its never easy to beat Australian team and this shows that West Indies are again emerging as one of the best teams.

I mean the West Indies team is not emerging as a strong team, the Australia team has lost their old reputation. The Australian players are not in good form now. The Australian team has been unstable for a long time. Earlier, they also lost the series against New Zealand and India. Their time is going bad.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

I also think the decision of the Indian management is right. India have already won the series. And their performance was admirable. By changing the players in the squad and giving new players a chance, new players will have the opportunity to be experienced and their abilities will also be revealed. This will make it easier for future Indian national teams to find experienced players.

Although Indian management wanted to experiment but they lost the match in the end. I think there is a difference between winning a series by margin of 2-1 and 3-0. If they had won the series 3-0, they could have given strong message to the opposition.

As such, it is India's second tier team. So if they lose a match in the entire series, it is not too disrespectful for India. Maybe they lost a match, but the results of giving new players a chance will be seen by the Indian team in the future. They Understand which players are suitable for international matches.

Just looking at the India and England team, how far ahead they are going as compare to other teams. Recently England also played and won again Pakistan with their Tier 2 team. They, India and England both have developed 2 teams each which can beat any international team. Aussies are losing the winning streak and the rest of the teams are worthless who only perform once in a while.

I think you are under estimating the West Indies team here. They have won the T20 series against Australia and also level the ODI series 1-1.

Its never easy to beat Australian team and this shows that West Indies are again emerging as one of the best teams.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

I also think the decision of the Indian management is right. India have already won the series. And their performance was admirable. By changing the players in the squad and giving new players a chance, new players will have the opportunity to be experienced and their abilities will also be revealed. This will make it easier for future Indian national teams to find experienced players.

Although Indian management wanted to experiment but they lost the match in the end. I think there is a difference between winning a series by margin of 2-1 and 3-0. If they had won the series 3-0, they could have given strong message to the opposition.

As such, it is India's second tier team. So if they lose a match in the entire series, it is not too disrespectful for India. Maybe they lost a match, but the results of giving new players a chance will be seen by the Indian team in the future. They Understand which players are suitable for international matches.

Just looking at the India and England team, how far ahead they are going as compare to other teams. Recently England also played and won again Pakistan with their Tier 2 team. They, India and England both have developed 2 teams each which can beat any international team. Aussies are losing the winning streak and the rest of the teams are worthless who only perform once in a while.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 24, 2021, 05:54:14 PM

Shakib Al Hasan is still a force in the team and in the recent matches he made a 5 wicket haul and took the team to victory and then on another match he batted throughout the innings and took the team home and if not for that innings they would have lost the match and he is the best player in the team and it is not easy to find a replacement of his caliber.

Shakib to Bangladesh cricket is what Virat Kohli is for Indian cricket, and Steve Smith is for Australia. But how the boards deal with these players is diametrically different. Shakib is always involved in some dispute with the board and the BCB members seems to be having ego issues towards him. On the other hand, the BCCI treats Virat like he is the god. Even the coach bows down to him and the team selection is done as per his preferences. Smith is not in a position as worse as Shakib, but CA didn't supported him when he was banned for ball tampering allegations.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 24, 2021, 12:36:33 PM

Bangladesh have improved a lot over the years, but I don't think they can beat every team at their full potential at present thanks to their inconsistent performers. For example, Shakib was one of their main all-rounders, but his career took a big blow thanks to all his scandals.

Bangladesh need more players like him(Prime Shakib) in order to validate your statement about beating any team at their full potential in my opinion.

Shakib Al Hasan is still a force in the team and in the recent matches he made a 5 wicket haul and took the team to victory and then on another match he batted throughout the innings and took the team home and if not for that innings they would have lost the match and he is the best player in the team and it is not easy to find a replacement of his caliber.

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Not everything happens from statistics all the time. Bangladesh should not be considered weak here at all. You are putting India far ahead, but if you think about 2015, you will understand what Bangladesh was like. The Bangladesh team has the ability to beat any team if they can play with their full potential.

If there is a spinning wicket Bangladesh will own any team that is finding it difficult and then their batsman has to perform well to win the match, if there is a decent total on board then they will always defend them against majority of the teams. India is a much stronger team and if they play a series with their full bench, India is going to win all the time in all the formats.

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Not everything happens from statistics all the time. Bangladesh should not be considered weak here at all. You are putting India far ahead, but if you think about 2015, you will understand what Bangladesh was like. The Bangladesh team has the ability to beat any team if they can play with their full potential.

Bangladesh have improved a lot over the years, but I don't think they can beat every team at their full potential at present thanks to their inconsistent performers. For example, Shakib was one of their main all-rounders, but his career took a big blow thanks to all his scandals.

Bangladesh need more players like him(Prime Shakib) in order to validate your statement about beating any team at their full potential in my opinion.

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Sri Lanka will have to work very hard to win against any of the weaker teams in the team. At the moment they needed to play a series against a team like Bangladesh, Afghanistan or Ireland. A team like India is a very strong opponent for Sri Lanka. Indian B team is much more experienced than the players of Sri Lanka's main national team.

Bangladesh is not a weak team if they are playing with their full strength team and Sri Lanka is also not playing with their best team against India and they were trashed in the first two games but they were able to defeat India in the third match when they rested their main bowlers like Bhuvneshwar Kumar which was available for the tour and their batting collapsed after getting a good start, so you need to give credit to the Sri Lankan bowlers for restricting India.

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Betting on India to win this particular series was one of my best decisions so far and I made decent profit overall. Betting against Sri Lanka has helped me improve my winning bet tally by a considerable margin in recent times.
Surya delivered as expected and I hope he gets far more chances to play in the main team in the future. I was also impressed with Chahar in this series.

Betting odds was in favour of India in this series. What was the odds of your bet? I think you would made bigger profit by placing your bets in Sri Lankan team in the last ODI match. No one expected that Sri Lanka would be able to win the match, and the odds was a bit high too. Indian youngsters played very well. They have discovered some qualitative players from their uncapped players by this series. Many players do well in home cricket event but fail to perform in the same way in international matches.

India has a lot of players who have done well in domestic cricket. But they can't play well in international matches. For example we can see Robin Uthappa. He did a great job in the IPL. But he did not play well in international matches. The decision of India to send their second tier team to play against Sri Lanka was very good. Through this they will be able to build experienced players for the main team.

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Betting on India to win this particular series was one of my best decisions so far and I made decent profit overall. Betting against Sri Lanka has helped me improve my winning bet tally by a considerable margin in recent times.
Surya delivered as expected and I hope he gets far more chances to play in the main team in the future. I was also impressed with Chahar in this series.

Betting odds was in favour of India in this series. What was the odds of your bet? I think you would made bigger profit by placing your bets in Sri Lankan team in the last ODI match. No one expected that Sri Lanka would be able to win the match, and the odds was a bit high too. Indian youngsters played very well. They have discovered some qualitative players from their uncapped players by this series. Many players do well in home cricket event but fail to perform in the same way in international matches.

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A win is a win!!
It does not matter if it is 2-1 or 3-0, India won the series with their B team, playing against an A team. Another important thing is that Srilanka have broken the jinx they won a match against India after 9 years. BTW Srilanka was still struggling in the last ODI.

Sri Lanka will have to work very hard to win against any of the weaker teams in the team. At the moment they needed to play a series against a team like Bangladesh, Afghanistan or Ireland. A team like India is a very strong opponent for Sri Lanka. Indian B team is much more experienced than the players of Sri Lanka's main national team.

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Betting on India to win this particular series was one of my best decisions so far and I made decent profit overall. Betting against Sri Lanka has helped me improve my winning bet tally by a considerable margin in recent times.

Surya delivered as expected and I hope he gets far more chances to play in the main team in the future. I was also impressed with Chahar in this series.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

I also think the decision of the Indian management is right. India have already won the series. And their performance was admirable. By changing the players in the squad and giving new players a chance, new players will have the opportunity to be experienced and their abilities will also be revealed. This will make it easier for future Indian national teams to find experienced players.

Although Indian management wanted to experiment but they lost the match in the end. I think there is a difference between winning a series by margin of 2-1 and 3-0. If they had won the series 3-0, they could have given strong message to the opposition.

A win is a win!!
It does not matter if it is 2-1 or 3-0, India won the series with their B team, playing against an A team. Another important thing is that Srilanka have broken the jinx they won a match against India after 9 years. BTW Srilanka was still struggling in the last ODI.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

I also think the decision of the Indian management is right. India have already won the series. And their performance was admirable. By changing the players in the squad and giving new players a chance, new players will have the opportunity to be experienced and their abilities will also be revealed. This will make it easier for future Indian national teams to find experienced players.

Although Indian management wanted to experiment but they lost the match in the end. I think there is a difference between winning a series by margin of 2-1 and 3-0. If they had won the series 3-0, they could have given strong message to the opposition.

As such, it is India's second tier team. So if they lose a match in the entire series, it is not too disrespectful for India. Maybe they lost a match, but the results of giving new players a chance will be seen by the Indian team in the future. They Understand which players are suitable for international matches.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

I also think the decision of the Indian management is right. India have already won the series. And their performance was admirable. By changing the players in the squad and giving new players a chance, new players will have the opportunity to be experienced and their abilities will also be revealed. This will make it easier for future Indian national teams to find experienced players.

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This is how bullshit happens, i placed a bet on India to win expecting them to whitewash the series and they made major changes in the team and there is no way they are going to win this match without their main players that played in the first two matches, sadly i had to cash out at a huge loss after India started good and then loosing all the wickets for 225 runs which i did not expect.

Indians took the match very lightly, since they already won the series. Also, it looked as if they wanted to make sure that Sri Lanka gets 10 points in the World Cup Super League. Now Sri Lanka has 22 points from 12 matches and they have moved up from the 12th place to the 11th place. Netherlands have been demoted to the 12th place (20 points from 3 matches). It was not a wise decision to make a bet in favor of India, after they won the series. They always take such matches casually and yesterday also it was no different.

Well they made 6 changes and 5 of them were debutantes although they were very much familiar faces in IPL arena. After winning 2 consecutive match it was logical to give other guys some game time and international experience so i would say its okay, there was nothing on stake for the Indians anyway.

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