If the West Indies squad does not change, they will not be able to qualify for the next World Cup. If the West Indies play against Afghanistan with this squad, Afghanistan will be able to defeat them very easily. They need to get their senior and experienced players back on the field quickly
Earlier it was their Board's conflict with the players, so players like DJ Bravo, Gayle were not playing. But now what's the problem? 
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You are right. The West Indies players are new. And their experienced players are very few. And we can see the results of the match without experienced players. The West Indies are losing in a very bad way. There is no good batsman in their team. It looks like they will lose the Test match too
This ODI series was very important. With a large number of matches from the 2020–23 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League called off or postponed, all the remaining matches have a lot of importance. In order to receive automatic qualification for the 2023 World Cup, West Indies need to finish within top 8. Right now they are at the last position, even below Ireland and Afghanistan. Last time also, they had to play the qualifier tournament (in 2018, for the CWC2019).
You are right. The West Indies players are new. And their experienced players are very few. And we can see the results of the match without experienced players. The West Indies are losing in a very bad way. There is no good batsman in their team. It looks like they will lose the Test match too
This ODI series was very important. With a large number of matches from the 2020–23 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League called off or postponed, all the remaining matches have a lot of importance. In order to receive automatic qualification for the 2023 World Cup, West Indies need to finish within top 8. Right now they are at the last position, even below Ireland and Afghanistan. Last time also, they had to play the qualifier tournament (in 2018, for the CWC2019).
That was a clean sweep from Bangladesh. The young team is getting stronger, earlier the lack of experience can be seen with Bangladesh. Throughout this series the team played in a well matured manner. This is a big blow for the West Indies team. Usually Bangladesh doesn't perform good with test matches. This time the clean sweep gives more confidence to play better against West Indies.
If all the regular West Indian players were available for the tour, then it could have been a different story. Since the senior players were not available, the WICB was forced to send a secondary squad, which included at least half a dozen players who were yet to make their international debut. Most of the players didn't had any previous playing experience in the sub-continent and this resulted in such a heavy defeat.
That was a clean sweep from Bangladesh. The young team is getting stronger, earlier the lack of experience can be seen with Bangladesh. Throughout this series the team played in a well matured manner. This is a big blow for the West Indies team. Usually Bangladesh doesn't perform good with test matches. This time the clean sweep gives more confidence to play better against West Indies.
If all the regular West Indian players were available for the tour, then it could have been a different story. Since the senior players were not available, the WICB was forced to send a secondary squad, which included at least half a dozen players who were yet to make their international debut. Most of the players didn't had any previous playing experience in the sub-continent and this resulted in such a heavy defeat.
Is anyone watching the third ODI match between Bangladesh and West Indies? I watched the match and made a bet for Bangladesh. Now the match is on break. Bangladesh's innings is over. Bangladesh lost 6 wickets and scored 297 runs in 50 overs. Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mahmudullah each scored 64 runs. And Shakib has scored 51 runs. There are no experienced players in the West Indies squad. I hope they will lose today's match as usual
12 members from West Indian squad withdraw due to Covid-19 and now this B team is struggling very badly as in last two ODI's they completely fail to give any impression today its same story very good batting from Bangla Tigers they can manage to win this series by 3 - 0 which is good for them as Shakib is also back and doing very good for team but West Indies is very long and same story goind down day by day even with few very talented players we have no positive hopes.Result was expected and happened the same where Bangladesh won comfortably by 120 runs. Only change happened in 3rd Match was Bangladesh were batting first and reached close to 300 else they were always chasing before. This series can be said more like a practice match for Bangladesh as winning comfortably by 3-0. West Indies have a lot of challenges ahead and not sure how it would be resolved and when.
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Is anyone watching the third ODI match between Bangladesh and West Indies? I watched the match and made a bet for Bangladesh. Now the match is on break. Bangladesh's innings is over. Bangladesh lost 6 wickets and scored 297 runs in 50 overs. Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mahmudullah each scored 64 runs. And Shakib has scored 51 runs. There are no experienced players in the West Indies squad. I hope they will lose today's match as usual
12 members from West Indian squad withdraw due to Covid-19 and now this B team is struggling very badly as in last two ODI's they completely fail to give any impression today its same story very good batting from Bangla Tigers they can manage to win this series by 3 - 0 which is good for them as Shakib is also back and doing very good for team but West Indies is very long and same story goind down day by day even with few very talented players we have no positive hopes.Result was expected and happened the same where Bangladesh won comfortably by 120 runs. Only change happened in 3rd Match was Bangladesh were batting first and reached close to 300 else they were always chasing before. This series can be said more like a practice match for Bangladesh as winning comfortably by 3-0. West Indies have a lot of challenges ahead and not sure how it would be resolved and when.
Is anyone watching the third ODI match between Bangladesh and West Indies? I watched the match and made a bet for Bangladesh. Now the match is on break. Bangladesh's innings is over. Bangladesh lost 6 wickets and scored 297 runs in 50 overs. Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mahmudullah each scored 64 runs. And Shakib has scored 51 runs. There are no experienced players in the West Indies squad. I hope they will lose today's match as usual
What you predicted has happened. I do not understand why the West Indies came to Bangladesh with such a broken team. A whole series went by where they couldn't stand it properly. Bangladesh should have played with their alternate team against West Indies. It might have made the whole series more exciting.
Is anyone watching the third ODI match between Bangladesh and West Indies? I watched the match and made a bet for Bangladesh. Now the match is on break. Bangladesh's innings is over. Bangladesh lost 6 wickets and scored 297 runs in 50 overs. Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mahmudullah each scored 64 runs. And Shakib has scored 51 runs. There are no experienced players in the West Indies squad. I hope they will lose today's match as usual
12 members from West Indian squad withdraw due to Covid-19 and now this B team is struggling very badly as in last two ODI's they completely fail to give any impression today its same story very good batting from Bangla Tigers they can manage to win this series by 3 - 0 which is good for them as Shakib is also back and doing very good for team but West Indies is very long and same story goind down day by day even with few very talented players we have no positive hopes.Result was expected and happened the same where Bangladesh won comfortably by 120 runs. Only change happened in 3rd Match was Bangladesh were batting first and reached close to 300 else they were always chasing before. This series can be said more like a practice match for Bangladesh as winning comfortably by 3-0. West Indies have a lot of challenges ahead and not sure how it would be resolved and when.
12 members from West Indian squad withdraw due to Covid-19 and now this B team is struggling very badly as in last two ODI's they completely fail to give any impression today its same story very good batting from Bangla Tigers they can manage to win this series by 3 - 0 which is good for them as Shakib is also back and doing very good for team but West Indies is very long and same story goind down day by day even with few very talented players we have no positive hopes.
I missed out in the match, but once i saw the West Indies squad i was confused on what to take of it as i could not identify a single player and i should have place a full house bet on Bangladesh to win the match. Will look forward for the next match to place the bet, the odds were low but against a strong Bangladesh team and in their own ground it is hard for the new West Indies players to compete. Is anyone watching the third ODI match between Bangladesh and West Indies? I watched the match and made a bet for Bangladesh. Now the match is on break. Bangladesh's innings is over. Bangladesh lost 6 wickets and scored 297 runs in 50 overs. Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mahmudullah each scored 64 runs. And Shakib has scored 51 runs. There are no experienced players in the West Indies squad. I hope they will lose today's match as usual
12 members from West Indian squad withdraw due to Covid-19 and now this B team is struggling very badly as in last two ODI's they completely fail to give any impression today its same story very good batting from Bangla Tigers they can manage to win this series by 3 - 0 which is good for them as Shakib is also back and doing very good for team but West Indies is very long and same story goind down day by day even with few very talented players we have no positive hopes. 
Vinod kambli is perfect example. Everyone used to say that he was talented and much more gifted batsman than Sachin but he become undisciplined brat with his limited initial success. what a waste of extraordinary talent.
@Sithara007 Sarfaraz's problem was fitness i guess. Virat used to like him a lot and he on-record gave him advice to get fit but Sarfraz never took his advice seriously.
@Sithara007 Sarfaraz's problem was fitness i guess. Virat used to like him a lot and he on-record gave him advice to get fit but Sarfraz never took his advice seriously.
Those who are in their 20s may not remember Kambli. I was a small kid at that time and back then scoring above a run a ball in the ODIs was considered as something special. He made a few good scores and the media hyped him all the way up to moon. Naturally, that made him arrogant and undisciplined. And to make matter worse, when his form declined he accused the other team members of caste discrimination. After that everything went downhill for him, and it has stayed that way till now.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
Vinod Kambli comes to mind 
. All the players are dedicated and if they control their urges and work hard on their skills they will don the jersey for a long time, if not other talents will come along and replace them.@Sithara007 Sarfaraz's problem was fitness i guess. Virat used to like him a lot and he on-record gave him advice to get fit but Sarfraz never took his advice seriously.
Recent series against Australia showed the positivity of IPL. Gill's pull shot against Strac, his cut against Cummins over third man. Debutant Washington Sunder hooking against no 1 bowler Cummins are couple of good examples.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
IPL has seen many of the youngsters receiving multi-crore contracts. Players who are still in their teens may receive 3-4 crore INR per year. But in some cases when the players suddenly receive this much money in a short term, they forget that a lot of work still remains to be done and they become complacent. One example that comes to my mind right now is that of Sarfaraz Khan (Kings XI Punjab).
Recent series against Australia showed the positivity of IPL. Gill's pull shot against Strac, his cut against Cummins over third man. Debutant Washington Sunder hooking against no 1 bowler Cummins are couple of good examples.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
IPL has seen many of the youngsters receiving multi-crore contracts. Players who are still in their teens may receive 3-4 crore INR per year. But in some cases when the players suddenly receive this much money in a short term, they forget that a lot of work still remains to be done and they become complacent. One example that comes to my mind right now is that of Sarfaraz Khan (Kings XI Punjab).
Recent series against Australia showed the positivity of IPL. Gill's pull shot against Strac, his cut against Cummins over third man. Debutant Washington Sunder hooking against no 1 bowler Cummins are couple of good examples.
The way in which all the debutants played without fear is because of the exposure they get during the IPL, sharing the dressing room with International players and learning from them and that has helped each and every player greatly.As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
Vinod Kambli comes to mind . All the players are dedicated and if they control their urges and work hard on their skills they will don the jersey for a long time, if not other talents will come along and replace them.Recent series against Australia showed the positivity of IPL. Gill's pull shot against Strac, his cut against Cummins over third man. Debutant Washington Sunder hooking against no 1 bowler Cummins are couple of good examples.
The way in which all the debutants played without fear is because of the exposure they get during the IPL, sharing the dressing room with International players and learning from them and that has helped each and every player greatly.As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
Vinod Kambli comes to mind . All the players are dedicated and if they control their urges and work hard on their skills they will don the jersey for a long time, if not other talents will come along and replace them. Not aware of their domestic set up but the praises Dravid got was about grooming the youngsters and that is not the IPL but the under 19 and other younger generation of players. The exposure in the IPL will help these players as they are sharing the dressing room with international players as well.
IPL can have its own benefits and demerits. Younger players without international experience are getting opportunity to play along with the superstars (such as Virat Kohli, Steve Smith and Ben Stokes), and the last tournament helped a number of relatively unknown players such as Rahul Tewatia and Shivam Mavi. But at the same time, it made some of the younger players quite arrogant and in the long term, it may hurt their career prospects.
As Gavaskar recently said that future looks good for Indian cricket but don't allow this fame to get into their head, it might destroy everything.
This West Indies team is not experienced and due to board issues no big-name player is in the team. But yes, the score batting first in both matches has being less than 150 which is really a worry sign for them. Bangladesh played well as a team unit in bowling and as well as in batting and was a easy win for them. Want to see them batting first in 3rd match and see if they can cross 300 runs or not against this WI team. Not expecting any huge surprise from WI in 3rd match and mostly should be a whitewash.
There was a lot of hype surrounding some of the younger players, such as Joshua Da Silva and Kjorn Ottley, but they failed to score the runs. I don't want to be too harsh on the West Indies bowlers, as they were not being given a decent score to defend. Anyway, the test series is more important and I hope that West Indies will be able to make a comeback. The ODI series is important in terms of qualification for the 2023 World Cup. Right now, West Indies is not looking in good shape and they are outside the top-8 in ODI Super League. So they may need to play the qualification tournament.
Not aware of their domestic set up but the praises Dravid got was about grooming the youngsters and that is not the IPL but the under 19 and other younger generation of players. The exposure in the IPL will help these players as they are sharing the dressing room with international players as well.
IPL can have its own benefits and demerits. Younger players without international experience are getting opportunity to play along with the superstars (such as Virat Kohli, Steve Smith and Ben Stokes), and the last tournament helped a number of relatively unknown players such as Rahul Tewatia and Shivam Mavi. But at the same time, it made some of the younger players quite arrogant and in the long term, it may hurt their career prospects.
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