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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 23, 2021, 03:20:53 AM

Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss.

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A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.

Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

Shikhar Dhawan is a 35 year old asset and his domestic performance in the recently concluded series and his last ten scores looks like this (23, 5, 77, 0, 0, 6, 0, 153, 44, 4) as if there are no other talents in India, KL Rahul is struggling in T20 and if that continues in ODI he will be replaced as he scored just 15 runs in his last 5 innings with a staggering average of 3. How long you will give these assets time to perform when there are promising young players waiting to get a spot.

Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.
[/quote]The above mentioned flaws and then the fielding as they are missing catches every match and no one talks about them when India is winning, when a team is winning no one will highlight these flaws and that is what i meant by lucky to hide the flaws as well.

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Until now both the openers are playing calm and controlled, not taking too many risky shots.And its good to see both of them have a good start and they need to convert them into 50s or bigger than that to take the team into the winning side. About the pitch, looks flattish so this could be a high scoring game in my opinion.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.

Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 23, 2021, 03:08:25 AM

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.

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Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss. Back in Australia also he lost the toss most of the times. Anyway, India has started "cautiously", with Dhawan and Rohit. The England pace attack looks a bit blunt, in the absence of Jofra Archer. Mark Wood performs best, when Archer is bowling from the other end.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 02:48:23 AM

As expected, Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul has been included in the playing XI. Now I am certain that the younger Indian players don't have any chance under the Kohli/Shastri regime. Why these two are included in the XI, despite so many failures? On the other hand, Ishan Kishan was dropped after just one failure.

A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit, i am hoping KL Rahul will perform well and he is the wicket keeper. When it comes to Ishan Kishan he was dropped because he had some injury and that is what i heard in news channel.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 02:48:23 AM

Anyway, as long as India wins the series, no one is going to complain. And perhaps that is the reason why Kohli is acting so arrogantly.

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

England won the toss and India is batting first.

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As expected, Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul has been included in the playing XI. Now I am certain that the younger Indian players don't have any chance under the Kohli/Shastri regime. Why these two are included in the XI, despite so many failures? On the other hand, Ishan Kishan was dropped after just one failure. Anyway, as long as India wins the series, no one is going to complain. And perhaps that is the reason why Kohli is acting so arrogantly.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 22, 2021, 10:55:35 PM

Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

Kohli said that he is going with Rohit and Dhawan combination for this pitch who are perfect openers in the past but in the recent time Form of Dhawan is not in great position but still he will be given the chance hopefully. I am eagerly waiting for the toos which is coming in the next few minutes meanwhile Krunal and Prasid got their caps today means they are going to be in the laying XI but expected Surya Kumar Yadav to play because he played well in when the chance was given to him in T20.

Edit: Eng won the toss and they decided to bowl first.

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India (Playing XI): Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli(c), Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul(w), Hardik Pandya, Krunal Pandya, Shardul Thakur, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Kuldeep Yadav, Prasidh Krishna

England (Playing XI): Jason Roy, Jonny Bairstow, Eoin Morgan(c), Jos Buttler(w), Ben Stokes, Sam Billings, Moeen Ali, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Adil Rashid, Mark Wood

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Quote from: Iranus on March 23, 2021, 12:17:50 AM

Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.

Bangladesh was in trouble initially. When Mushfiqur Rahim got out, they were 184/4 after 40.3 overs. But in the remaining 9.3 overs, they managed to score at a rate of 10 runs per over, as a result of power hitting from Mohammad Mithun. The New Zealand bowlers conceded too many runs in the end. James Neesham in particular was very expensive. Anyway, New Zealand is struggling now. They are at 57/3.

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Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 22, 2021, 10:55:35 PM

Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

Shikhar Dhawan is in really bad shape and even his domestic team has decided to drop him. KL Rahul also seems to be going through a rough patch. If they want left-right combination, then rather than taking it as an excuse to include out of form players such as Dhawan/Rahul, they should go for Ishan Kishan or Devdutt Padikkal. Or Rohit can be dropped to the no.3 position to include Shubman Gill or Prithvi Shaw.

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I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.

Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

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Quote from: cosmicbtc on March 21, 2021, 11:13:18 AM

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 21, 2021, 08:36:30 AM

Consistency, performance sab theek hai lekin yeh batao kitne opener rakhoge 1 team mein? Sare ke sare CEO hi rakh loge toh majdoori wala (Bowling) kaam kaun karega company mein bhai. Grin

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 19, 2021, 02:32:25 AM

India's 18 Men Squad ODI team against England.

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https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1372774961484468224

England also announced their 14 men squad for the first match. Jofra is missing due to injury.

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Bumrah and Pandey will be missed by indians in the series. However it a good opportunity for Krishna and Surya Yadav to proof themselves in the tournament and make a permanent spot in the national team.

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

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As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

I wish Devdutt Padikkal got selected as he was in great form and even if there is no slot in the playing eleven he should be selected as scoring 4 centuries back to back is not a small feat and he is really young and a selection would have elevated his confidence.

Yup Bumrah is away due to his marriage.

Consistency, performance sab theek hai lekin yeh batao kitne opener rakhoge 1 team mein? Sare ke sare CEO hi rakh loge toh majdoori wala (Bowling) kaam kaun karega company mein bhai. Grin

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 21, 2021, 06:39:59 AM

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

Anyway, the selectors will be happy. Else they would be in big trouble. So many good pace bowlers to select from, and there is room only for 3-4 players. And it is going to be even tougher when Shami will be fit. Shami, Bumrah, Shardul, Natarajan, Saini and Siraj forms the first tier, from which only around 50% can be included in the squad. And Shardul have the advantage here, as he is the best batsmen among all of them.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 19, 2021, 02:44:35 AM

Bumrah and Pandey will be missed by indians in the series. However it a good opportunity for Krishna and Surya Yadav to proof themselves in the tournament and make a permanent spot in the national team.

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

Quote from: JSRAW on March 19, 2021, 10:58:28 PM

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

I wish Devdutt Padikkal got selected as he was in great form and even if there is no slot in the playing eleven he should be selected as scoring 4 centuries back to back is not a small feat and he is really young and a selection would have elevated his confidence.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 20, 2021, 10:20:57 AM

I doubt if he's going to feature in domestic regularly. Delhi already dropped him after couple of games in Vijay hazare trophy, if something goes wrong with his fitness or form for long then he should stick with the T-20 format (IPL) and try to comeback. Devdutt is 20 years old so nothing to worry about as he has plenty of time. He's left hander opener so in future he will come easily in the team if he continues with his form.

Apart from one century against Maharashtra, Shikhar was disappointing during the Vijay Hazare Trophy. Also, a lot of competition is there for slots in the Delhi top order. A number of younger players are coming through, and the selectors are in a dilemma to whether give chances to Shikhar at the place of these youngsters or keep with the status quo. There are promising youngsters fighting for a slot in the Delhi side, such as Dhruv Shorey, Nitish Rana and Himmat Singh.

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The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

Prasidh Krishna inclusion in the squad is for ODI series, T-20 or IPL record doesn't matter atm because he has been performing quite well in the Vijay Hazare Trophy consistently. 3 back to back good season, hence maiden India call up.

If Vijay Hazare Trophy was the main reason for Krishna's inclusion in the ODI then I fear Prithvi Shaw will not be getting a another chance in the future. His performance in Vijay Hazare Trophy was quite good but his inconsistency in International cricket might be the reason he did not get a chance this time or may be in the future.

To those who think Indian team is weak and is struggling, today's batting is a reply to your negative thoughts. This indian batting line-up has proved once again they have talent. What an incredible batting by Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, as a fan I would want them to open the Indian innings in the world cup. Yadav has made it clear that he is the number 3 . I little bit of shuffling and the English team is on the downside. I hope the Indian bowlers do their job efficiently.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 19, 2021, 11:47:29 PM

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As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

Shikhar Dhawan is well past his prime. If he doesn't perform in the next 2-3 outings, then he should be dropped from the squad and sent back to his domestic team (Delhi). Devdutt deserves a chance now, after performing consistently with the bat over the last two years. Almost everyone else have got a chance, including Shaw, Gill, Kishan and Surya. So I don't know why Devdutt is getting overlooked.

I doubt if he's going to feature in domestic regularly. Delhi already dropped him after couple of games in Vijay hazare trophy, if something goes wrong with his fitness or form for long then he should stick with the T-20 format (IPL) and try to comeback. Devdutt is 20 years old so nothing to worry about as he has plenty of time. He's left hander opener so in future he will come easily in the team if he continues with his form.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 19, 2021, 11:47:29 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 19, 2021, 10:58:28 PM

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

Shikhar Dhawan is well past his prime. If he doesn't perform in the next 2-3 outings, then he should be dropped from the squad and sent back to his domestic team (Delhi). Devdutt deserves a chance now, after performing consistently with the bat over the last two years. Almost everyone else have got a chance, including Shaw, Gill, Kishan and Surya. So I don't know why Devdutt is getting overlooked.

The Indian board has a lot of young talented players. Those who are unable to express their abilities due to lack of opportunities. If they get a chance in the national team, maybe they will be able to perform well. They should be given a chance. Although many players have done well in the domestic league, but they have failed to deliver as expected in the national team. Yet the board should give young players a chance. As if there will no shortage of qualified players for the Indian national team in the future.

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