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Quote from: Haunebu on July 30, 2020, 11:29:02 AM

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Campher played well and remain not out at 59. McBrine gave him good support but none of the other batsmen can show any considerable performance.
Ireland need to improve a lot if they want to come at par with england.
Also DJ Willey bowled suberb today and took 5 wickets in the match.

Do any of you actually watch these one sided matches from start to finish? These matches are basically training matches for young English players. The only thing that surprised me was Ireland posting a target greater than 150 after their pathetic top order batting performance.

This is the first time that I heard of DJ Willey and he basically bowled out batsmen like a DJ which is why I probably will remember his name going forward.

I did not watch the match in full but did tune in time to time to see the action. However since today is weekend, i will watch the match in full if is interesting. No one wants to waste time to watch a one sided match.

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Quote from: onrise on August 01, 2020, 07:09:33 AM

If they bat full 50 overs, they can end up making 250+ runs which can boost their confidence as well.

250+? No freaking way. Willey is on a role again and the Irish probably hate him the most right now. He continues picking wickets regularly and will probably become the Man of the Series at this rate.

I am expecting Ireland to post a score below 200 which England will probably chase down easily once again. Ireland winning a single match in this tournament would be phenomenal truthfully speaking.

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Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.

Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.

I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.

Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.

I think we should not under estimate the ireland team. Seeing the last match, they were 28 for 5 and still managed to make 172 runs in the end. If their upper order batsmen could bat well, we can see them making a competitive total. I am not saying the ireland can win the 2nd ODI but only if they start well, it will be interesting to watch.

In past as well Ireland has won some matches against good team, only thing is that it is not consistent, and the reason is that they do not have many matches regularly with good teams. So, the exposure gets restricted and this will show up in the end. If they bat full 50 overs, they can end up making 250+ runs which can boost their confidence as well.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 31, 2020, 06:45:23 PM

Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.

Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.

I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.

Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.

I think we should not under estimate the ireland team. Seeing the last match, they were 28 for 5 and still managed to make 172 runs in the end. If their upper order batsmen could bat well, we can see them making a competitive total. I am not saying the ireland can win the 2nd ODI but only if they start well, it will be interesting to watch.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 31, 2020, 06:45:23 PM

Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.

Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.

I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.

Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 31, 2020, 06:45:23 PM

Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.

There are injury concerns in the Ireland team as Barry McCarthy is injured and out of the series, if Ireland need to have a chance in the series the old players like Kevin O'Brien has to step up their performance and a good opening performance Paul Stirling could help them put a competitive score. Ireland need to find youngsters and give them the chance.

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Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.

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Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.

They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.

I will say Ireland tried their best because they tried to extend their innings as long as they can but they couldn't scre any big scores due to lack of partnerships.And for England its an easy target and less competitive opponents let them for an easy win.

Now tomorrow we have second ODI between these two teams hopefully Ireland will perform some better and learn from mistakes which they done in first ODI thier top order was in hurry just because of this they lost some quick wickets and then unable to have some good target now time for some good work from top order for interesting and full second ODI.

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Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.

They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.

I will say Ireland tried their best because they tried to extend their innings as long as they can but they couldn't scre any big scores due to lack of partnerships.And for England its an easy target and less competitive opponents let them for an easy win.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 31, 2020, 04:28:05 AM

Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.

They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.

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Also, Ireland has some potential to make match tough as seen in the past, only thing they do not play much cricket so that experience might be lacking with them.

Ireland is playing cricket, they had a series with West Indies this year in January, if i remember correctly they defeated West Indies in T20 and leveled the series but they lost the ODI series and before that they were playing T20 World Cup qualifiers. I am not expecting Ireland to upset England in T20 but they can compete in the T20 format.

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I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

This was a surprise the way they came back, I was expecting around 100 or so might get all out. But they manage to reach well till 172 as they lost quick 5 wickets. Though England chased the score well and won by 6 wickets. Ireland will have to bat well build the partnership initially and ensure they bat for full 50 overs.

I thought that they will not even reach 100 but to my surprise they were able to score above 150. Still in ODI a target like 172 means it was easy for the English team. Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.

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I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset Wink

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I think we are expecting too much from Ireland, history can be seen, so far Ireland has been able to beat England in only one ODI match.
Both teams will have a good fight but only in the T20 matches, so I have no special expectation from the Ireland team.

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emmm, Ireland has some good players but the team is not skilled like England. it is not wise to compare Ireland team to England. England is far better than Ireland. even we can see a battle on T-20 match. but I hope if England's fortunes are not extremely bad then they will easily win the match against Ireland .

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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 30, 2020, 05:04:49 PM

Quote from: akhjob on July 30, 2020, 12:29:08 PM

I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset Wink

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I think we are expecting too much from Ireland, history can be seen, so far Ireland has been able to beat England in only one ODI match.
Both teams will have a good fight but only in the T20 matches, so I have no special expectation from the Ireland team.

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Quote from: akhjob on July 30, 2020, 12:29:08 PM

I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset Wink

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England chased the target in about 27 overs. This means that if they had played first, they could have made over 300 runs which is just impossible for Ireland to chase in any circumstances. Even with the new team, England is a far better team than the Ireland who are newbies in the test cricket.

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Quote from: akhjob on July 30, 2020, 12:29:08 PM

I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset Wink

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Quote from: akhjob on July 30, 2020, 12:29:08 PM

I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

Early damage hurts Ireland very badly otherwise its going to be very interesting match as tail enders done good job for them from 27/5 to 172 for all is good and in England inning bowlers was on target in first few overs but good partnership between Billings and Morgan bring them back in match and they won this very easily by 6 wickets.

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I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible Tongue

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Even i was not sure about the match but the England bowlers surprised me as well as the Irish batsman as they played some good innings in the warm up match but they batted like a shadow of their players. It is going to be an easy win for England and i wonder how Jason Roy is going to bat as he was dismissed for a duck in the warm up against Ireland.

Quote from: Haunebu on July 30, 2020, 11:29:02 AM

Do any of you actually watch these one sided matches from start to finish? These matches are basically training matches for young English players. The only thing that surprised me was Ireland posting a target greater than 150 after their pathetic top order batting performance.

Even i did not watch the match as i was busy but after checking the score Ireland lost 7 wickets for 79 runs and then to score 172 runs is a good achievement as i would have placed a bet below 140 runs if i was online Grin

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Quote from: MFahad on July 30, 2020, 11:20:47 AM

Campher played well and remain not out at 59. McBrine gave him good support but none of the other batsmen can show any considerable performance.
Ireland need to improve a lot if they want to come at par with england.
Also DJ Willey bowled suberb today and took 5 wickets in the match.

Do any of you actually watch these one sided matches from start to finish? These matches are basically training matches for young English players. The only thing that surprised me was Ireland posting a target greater than 150 after their pathetic top order batting performance.

This is the first time that I heard of DJ Willey and he basically bowled out batsmen like a DJ which is why I probably will remember his name going forward.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 30, 2020, 11:12:12 AM

As I was expecting.. another pathetic performance from the Irish side. When was the last times these guys put up a good performance against quality opposition? The old players such as Tim Murtagh and Ed Joyce have retired and the younger players are not able to fill the gap. And it was a really bad decision from the ICC, to grant test status to Ireland. In the case of Afghanistan, they can at least say that cricket is one of the most popular sports there. But in Ireland, cricket is not even popular.

Campher played well and remain not out at 59. McBrine gave him good support but none of the other batsmen can show any considerable performance.
Ireland need to improve a lot if they want to come at par with england.
Also DJ Willey bowled suberb today and took 5 wickets in the match.

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