I think Ireland got the batting order mixed up. In both the last match and the current match, the lower order batsmen are performing much better than the upper order batsmen. Campher is actually playing a gem of an innings here.
Rashid and Willey did well, but I still cannot believe the fact that Ireland survived the full 50 overs. England will probably chase this down in 45 overs.
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Ireland batting first again seems to be close to their previous score only. Though the good point is that they will end up batting either full 50 overs or close to that. Curtis is playing on 42 . They should be targeting crossing 200 runs atleast and try to pick few wickets of England team rather than losing this game one sided.
What ever score Ireland is going to make from this point will not be competitive and the odds are lopsided from the start when they lost a couple of wickets and i do not understand why the Ireland captain is fixated on deciding to bat first when their batsman are struggling to make any impact or may be because they are worried that England will post a huge total and humiliate their bowlers 
.The last two partnership for the 7th wicket went impressive and the 8th wicket partnership is also above 50 at the moment. These two partnership now placed the Irish team to a competitive target. With two overs left, they'd probably give a target of 225+ and if these bowlers performed as well as they bat today, the game could turn to any sides.
Ireland batting first again seems to be close to their previous score only. Though the good point is that they will end up batting either full 50 overs or close to that. Curtis is playing on 42 . They should be targeting crossing 200 runs atleast and try to pick few wickets of England team rather than losing this game one sided.
What ever score Ireland is going to make from this point will not be competitive and the odds are lopsided from the start when they lost a couple of wickets and i do not understand why the Ireland captain is fixated on deciding to bat first when their batsman are struggling to make any impact or may be because they are worried that England will post a huge total and humiliate their bowlers . 
More or less same scorecard, it seems they didn't learn anything from the last game except not going full Duck_mode. Let's hope Curtis steps up again along with the Tucker and reach close to 150ish.
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Campher played well and remain not out at 59. McBrine gave him good support but none of the other batsmen can show any considerable performance.
Ireland need to improve a lot if they want to come at par with england.
Also DJ Willey bowled suberb today and took 5 wickets in the match.
Do any of you actually watch these one sided matches from start to finish? These matches are basically training matches for young English players. The only thing that surprised me was Ireland posting a target greater than 150 after their pathetic top order batting performance.Ireland need to improve a lot if they want to come at par with england.
Also DJ Willey bowled suberb today and took 5 wickets in the match.
This is the first time that I heard of DJ Willey and he basically bowled out batsmen like a DJ which is why I probably will remember his name going forward.
I did not watch the match in full but did tune in time to time to see the action. However since today is weekend, i will watch the match in full if is interesting. No one wants to waste time to watch a one sided match.
If they bat full 50 overs, they can end up making 250+ runs which can boost their confidence as well.
250+? No freaking way. Willey is on a role again and the Irish probably hate him the most right now. He continues picking wickets regularly and will probably become the Man of the Series at this rate.I am expecting Ireland to post a score below 200 which England will probably chase down easily once again. Ireland winning a single match in this tournament would be phenomenal truthfully speaking.
Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.
Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.
I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.
Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.
I think we should not under estimate the ireland team. Seeing the last match, they were 28 for 5 and still managed to make 172 runs in the end. If their upper order batsmen could bat well, we can see them making a competitive total. I am not saying the ireland can win the 2nd ODI but only if they start well, it will be interesting to watch.
In past as well Ireland has won some matches against good team, only thing is that it is not consistent, and the reason is that they do not have many matches regularly with good teams. So, the exposure gets restricted and this will show up in the end. If they bat full 50 overs, they can end up making 250+ runs which can boost their confidence as well.
Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.
Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.
I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.
Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.
I think we should not under estimate the ireland team. Seeing the last match, they were 28 for 5 and still managed to make 172 runs in the end. If their upper order batsmen could bat well, we can see them making a competitive total. I am not saying the ireland can win the 2nd ODI but only if they start well, it will be interesting to watch.
Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.
Today is the 2nd ODI match. Hope they can play better cricket compared to first match and it would more interesting.
I was seeing past 2 years ODI matches history, and majorly they played against Afghanistan, West Indies and England and 2 matches against Zimbabwe. The team needs to have more matches first and against different teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc they should have tour. This would give them more matches to play and as a team they will grow better and later on can play against rest of the teams as well.
Do not expect any miracle from the Irish team. England should easily win the second ODI, the Irish team should concentrate on their batting and hopefully they understand it is not. a T20 or a T10 match but a 50 over match.
Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.
There are injury concerns in the Ireland team as Barry McCarthy is injured and out of the series, if Ireland need to have a chance in the series the old players like Kevin O'Brien has to step up their performance and a good opening performance Paul Stirling could help them put a competitive score. Ireland need to find youngsters and give them the chance. 
Ireland used to give hard competence to the opponents in the T20 Matches. In ODI matches we can't expect big performance. Scoring 172 runs is good, but for a team like England it is easy target. Even if it has faced early wicket fall, the last order players will score this run.
Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.
They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.
Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.
They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.
They need to spend more time in the crease rather than going for the big shots before settling down.Also, Ireland has some potential to make match tough as seen in the past, only thing they do not play much cricket so that experience might be lacking with them.
Ireland is playing cricket, they had a series with West Indies this year in January, if i remember correctly they defeated West Indies in T20 and leveled the series but they lost the ODI series and before that they were playing T20 World Cup qualifiers. I am not expecting Ireland to upset England in T20 but they can compete in the T20 format. I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible 
This was a surprise the way they came back, I was expecting around 100 or so might get all out. But they manage to reach well till 172 as they lost quick 5 wickets. Though England chased the score well and won by 6 wickets. Ireland will have to bat well build the partnership initially and ensure they bat for full 50 overs.
I thought that they will not even reach 100 but to my surprise they were able to score above 150. Still in ODI a target like 172 means it was easy for the English team. Pathetic performance by the Irish side, they need to rethink their batting strategy.
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I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible
If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset 
. Both teams will have a good fight but only in the T20 matches, so I have no special expectation from the Ireland team.
Ireland vs English history
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emmm, Ireland has some good players but the team is not skilled like England. it is not wise to compare Ireland team to England. England is far better than Ireland. even we can see a battle on T-20 match. but I hope if England's fortunes are not extremely bad then they will easily win the match against Ireland .
I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible
If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset . Both teams will have a good fight but only in the T20 matches, so I have no special expectation from the Ireland team.
Ireland vs English history
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I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible
If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset . England chased the target in about 27 overs. This means that if they had played first, they could have made over 300 runs which is just impossible for Ireland to chase in any circumstances. Even with the new team, England is a far better team than the Ireland who are newbies in the test cricket.
I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible
If the Ireland batsman can score some runs then we might see a good battle because England is experimenting with a new team and the way in which they batted chasing a small total loosing 4 wickets, it is possible to see an upset in atleast one match and the odds are really good for Ireland as they have done that in the past and those players are still playing in the team who could pull off the upset . I guess everyone would be surprised by Ireland's comeback after losing 5 wickets for 28 runs. I honestly didn't expect they would post a target of 173 runs. I would be more surprised if they somehow manage a win even though it's highly not possible
Early damage hurts Ireland very badly otherwise its going to be very interesting match as tail enders done good job for them from 27/5 to 172 for all is good and in England inning bowlers was on target in first few overs but good partnership between Billings and Morgan bring them back in match and they won this very easily by 6 wickets. Jump to: