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Quote from: glowing10 on June 27, 2020, 02:55:29 AM

T10 is not the real game of cricket because you hardy can do in that number of overs and also not every player will get a chance to show their skills too. T20 is something which is more or less the perfect shorter game and anything shorter would not be real entertaining as well. Also consider that crowd which comes to watch from various cities in the stadium in traffic may take much longer to and for distance than just to watch T10 match in stadium. So this would not be the real incentive for them too.

The shorter the game the more excitement it will generate. People were saying the same when about T20 when it was introduced and now everyone prefers watching T20 than any other form of cricket. In my opinion it will be great for us to see International players playing this T10 in a ICC tournament.

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T10 is not the real game of cricket because you hardy can do in that number of overs and also not every player will get a chance to show their skills too. T20 is something which is more or less the perfect shorter game and anything shorter would not be real entertaining as well. Also consider that crowd which comes to watch from various cities in the stadium in traffic may take much longer to and for distance than just to watch T10 match in stadium. So this would not be the real incentive for them too.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 26, 2020, 10:23:35 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on June 26, 2020, 05:03:13 PM

so lets cut that to 10 overs and then try to impress new sports fans Tongue

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That would destroy the real fun of cricket. We have seen t10 cup some days ago and to be honest, it was kind of bore to me. May be we are not comfortable til now. The duration of three hours is perfect. You are spending above 2 hours behind watching a movie too.

Anything less than 20 overs game will not be entertaining because then it is a one sided show batsmen hitting the four and sixes and they have no fear because they have so many wickets and only 10 overs. This type of cricket is enjoyable for a little time but in the long run i don't think it will be good for the cricket.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 26, 2020, 05:03:13 PM

so lets cut that to 10 overs and then try to impress new sports fans Tongue

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That would destroy the real fun of cricket. We have seen t10 cup some days ago and to be honest, it was kind of bore to me. May be we are not comfortable til now. The duration of three hours is perfect. You are spending above 2 hours behind watching a movie too.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 26, 2020, 11:35:09 AM

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If it comes down to only one format then obvious choice is T-20, simply because of revenue. Its not entirely possible so the best they can do is scrap unnecessary ODI series completely (Not WC) for more empty schedule and play more t-20, ODI seems time wasting to me anyway except world cup. and introduce some kind of group system in the Test format for competitiveness.

I agree. Both ODI and T20 can be classified as "Limited Over" formats. Earlier, the ODI matches used to consist of 60 overs per innings (until the mid 80s) and then it was reduced to 50 overs. Now let's assume that the duration is further reduced to 20 overs. With the introduction of the T20 format, the 50-over format has lost its relevance. I would not suggest the ICC to drop the test matches, since it represents the traditional cricket format. But ODI can be done away with.

I got bored with the ODI bilateral series after the World Cup. IMO ODI need some new recipe for ex: Quadrilateral and Triangular series instead of Bilateral. BCCI does have some plans regarding this so we might see some action in the near future, controversial policy if you are not one of the 4 nations but seems effective to revive some kind of rivalry in the ODI format.

Test format not going anywhere as long as top 5 nations making some efforts.

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If you bet on cricket then Test and ODI are the perfect place to wage on multiple options with much lesser risk, i am more happy wagging a bet on the longer format than the T20 format simply because it is really unpredictable and much shorter boundaries but Test is perfect for betting as the pitches are improving and we are seeing results for the past few years which is actually great than a boring draw.

You are right about predictable- unpredictable nature but on the other hand its also true that betting on cricket going up ridiculously after T-20 format.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 26, 2020, 11:35:09 AM

I agree. Both ODI and T20 can be classified as "Limited Over" formats. Earlier, the ODI matches used to consist of 60 overs per innings (until the mid 80s) and then it was reduced to 50 overs. Now let's assume that the duration is further reduced to 20 overs. With the introduction of the T20 format, the 50-over format has lost its relevance. I would not suggest the ICC to drop the test matches, since it represents the traditional cricket format. But ODI can be done away with.

If ODI is done then there is no way the Test format will survive either, so just drop all other formats and play only T20 as the only sport like JSRAW mentioned but just see the facts, you are not going to attract new fans in developed countries as the game time is still over 3 hours which is really long if you compare the rest of the sports, so lets cut that to 10 overs and then try to impress new sports fans Tongue

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The ones that blew me away were Dhoni's bat and the India vs Pakistan 2019 match. This proves that it doesn't get any bigger than an India vs Pakistan match in the world of Cricket. I hope we get to see these teams duke it out more often in the future.

It is highly unlikely we will see any bilateral series between India and Pakistan anytime soon and the only place we could expect them to meet is during ICC tournaments and it is really unfortunate for cricket fans as we miss out on one of the biggest rivalries in the sport apart from the Ashes.

In last few years we have a lot of money and politics in cricket so just because of this we lost spirited cricket and gentleness of cricket now its all about money and power Big 3 bring many changes and now we have to face few facts about this so its really sad now we have to wait for these teams only in ICC events.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 26, 2020, 03:06:44 AM

The ones that blew me away were Dhoni's bat and the India vs Pakistan 2019 match. This proves that it doesn't get any bigger than an India vs Pakistan match in the world of Cricket. I hope we get to see these teams duke it out more often in the future.

It is highly unlikely we will see any bilateral series between India and Pakistan anytime soon and the only place we could expect them to meet is during ICC tournaments and it is really unfortunate for cricket fans as we miss out on one of the biggest rivalries in the sport apart from the Ashes.

Quote from: JSRAW on June 26, 2020, 12:40:44 AM

If it comes down to only one format then obvious choice is T-20, simply because of revenue. Its not entirely possible so the best they can do is scrap unnecessary ODI series completely (Not WC) for more empty schedule and play more t-20, ODI seems time wasting to me anyway except world cup. and introduce some kind of group system in the Test format for competitiveness.

If you bet on cricket then Test and ODI are the perfect place to wage on multiple options with much lesser risk, i am more happy wagging a bet on the longer format than the T20 format simply because it is really unpredictable and much shorter boundaries but Test is perfect for betting as the pitches are improving and we are seeing results for the past few years which is actually great than a boring draw.

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Quote from: glowing10 on June 26, 2020, 06:10:17 AM

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India vs Pakistan

True, If there is no political quackery then arguably comes at top 3 biggest rivalry in all sports, way bigger than The Ashes. There is a reason more than a billion people stop working voluntary when India and Pakistan playing against each other.

This is the biggest riverly atleast in cricket hitsory India vs Pakistan as both countries literally come to stand still. I do remember that whenever India vs Pakistan meets in any of the world cups tournament the country sees very less crowds on roads or in offices. Everyone is busy watching this match. Also people who are not much intro cricket or take least interest also do not miss out watching this major match between both the countries and excitement is all together at different levels. Many organizations specially to this match put the big screen their offices so that they come to work and also can enjoy match too.

The rivalry is well known by everyone who loves cricket and that is why everyone is waiting for the T20 World cup because everyone feels that this tournament will be the one where these two teams might face each other and we all can enjoy that match. Until 2021 we have to wait for it.

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Quote from: glowing10 on June 26, 2020, 06:10:17 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 26, 2020, 04:54:05 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on June 26, 2020, 03:06:44 AM

India vs Pakistan

True, If there is no political quackery then arguably comes at top 3 biggest rivalry in all sports, way bigger than The Ashes. There is a reason more than a billion people stop working voluntary when India and Pakistan playing against each other.

This is the biggest riverly atleast in cricket hitsory India vs Pakistan as both countries literally come to stand still. I do remember that whenever India vs Pakistan meets in any of the world cups tournament the country sees very less crowds on roads or in offices. Everyone is busy watching this match. Also people who are not much intro cricket or take least interest also do not miss out watching this major match between both the countries and excitement is all together at different levels. Many organizations specially to this match put the big screen their offices so that they come to work and also can enjoy match too.

Now this all beauty of cricket is gone as politicians doing their own duty for sack of this and we will never able to have this again in our lives as this tension is not going to end in near future so just think and feel about this great history of cricket and write for our kids those never can enjoy this all. Sad

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 26, 2020, 12:40:44 AM

If it comes down to only one format then obvious choice is T-20, simply because of revenue. Its not entirely possible so the best they can do is scrap unnecessary ODI series completely (Not WC) for more empty schedule and play more t-20, ODI seems time wasting to me anyway except world cup. and introduce some kind of group system in the Test format for competitiveness.

I agree. Both ODI and T20 can be classified as "Limited Over" formats. Earlier, the ODI matches used to consist of 60 overs per innings (until the mid 80s) and then it was reduced to 50 overs. Now let's assume that the duration is further reduced to 20 overs. With the introduction of the T20 format, the 50-over format has lost its relevance. I would not suggest the ICC to drop the test matches, since it represents the traditional cricket format. But ODI can be done away with.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 26, 2020, 04:54:05 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on June 26, 2020, 03:06:44 AM

India vs Pakistan

True, If there is no political quackery then arguably comes at top 3 biggest rivalry in all sports, way bigger than The Ashes. There is a reason more than a billion people stop working voluntary when India and Pakistan playing against each other.

This is the biggest riverly atleast in cricket hitsory India vs Pakistan as both countries literally come to stand still. I do remember that whenever India vs Pakistan meets in any of the world cups tournament the country sees very less crowds on roads or in offices. Everyone is busy watching this match. Also people who are not much intro cricket or take least interest also do not miss out watching this major match between both the countries and excitement is all together at different levels. Many organizations specially to this match put the big screen their offices so that they come to work and also can enjoy match too.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 26, 2020, 03:06:44 AM

India vs Pakistan

True, If there is no political quackery then arguably comes at top 3 biggest rivalry in all sports, way bigger than The Ashes. There is a reason more than a billion people stop working voluntary when India and Pakistan playing against each other.

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Another interesting article guys. This one talks about some of the greatest Cricket related Guinness World records so far.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/crickettimes.com/2020/06/top-10-guinness-world-records-held-by-cricketers/amp/

The ones that blew me away were Dhoni's bat and the India vs Pakistan 2019 match. This proves that it doesn't get any bigger than an India vs Pakistan match in the world of Cricket. I hope we get to see these teams duke it out more often in the future.

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If it comes down to only one format then obvious choice is T-20, simply because of revenue. Its not entirely possible so the best they can do is scrap unnecessary ODI series completely (Not WC) for more empty schedule and play more t-20, ODI seems time wasting to me anyway except world cup. and introduce some kind of group system in the Test format for competitiveness.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 25, 2020, 11:43:01 AM

I would hate it if ICC focuses only on T20 Cricket. It's true that its less time consuming, revenue-generating and a good attraction for new guys but I feel it more like a baseball game. In T20s the batsmen try to go after each and every ball and hit as many boundaries as you can something like an adrenaline rush. IMO, only in test matches, a player's endurance, skill, technique, fitness etc are exposed.

I understand what your opinion, but we need to focus on the big picture here. Tests and ODIs have become way less attracting when compared to the T-20 format these days.

I don't want tests and ODIs to be cancelled completely since they still have a niche as you stated. Justouple of ODIs and tests per year should suffice while majority of the matches should be T-20s.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 25, 2020, 10:52:14 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:53:37 PM

My opinion is that the ICC should focus on the format which is less time consuming, more revenue generating and something which can attract new fans. And that would be the T20 format.

This has always been something which I thought of ever since the T20 format was introduced years ago which is why I completely agree with you here. The popularity of Cricket would probably soar drastically if ICC stuck to this single format in the future.

I would hate it if ICC focuses only on T20 Cricket. It's true that its less time consuming, revenue-generating and a good attraction for new guys but I feel it more like a baseball game. In T20s the batsmen try to go after each and every ball and hit as many boundaries as you can something like an adrenaline rush. IMO, only in test matches, a player's endurance, skill, technique, fitness etc are exposed.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:56:24 AM

As you can see, NFL and MLB are ranked much above the EPL.

True. Popularity matters more though. Soccer unites the entire world where as sports like NFL and MLB unite the local states of USA. Global popularity trumps local popularity any day.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:53:37 PM

My opinion is that the ICC should focus on the format which is less time consuming, more revenue generating and something which can attract new fans. And that would be the T20 format.

This has always been something which I thought of ever since the T20 format was introduced years ago which is why I completely agree with you here. The popularity of Cricket would probably soar drastically if ICC stuck to this single format in the future.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 10:20:34 PM

Right now cricket has 3 different formats and cricket boards doing more experiment with the format (Positive: More choice for cricket fans; Con : Fans are divided). Just wondering, what if ICC focus on only 1 format similar to other sports? This might change some dynamics, i suppose. Tough choice indeed and can understand the dilemma among the cricket fraternity. #Speculation_FYI Grin

Excellent idea. Right now we have three contrasting formats - test, ODI and T20. In addition to these, there are unofficial formats such as T10, Sixes cricket and beach cricket. So many formats are there and this can be confusing to those who are new to the sport. My opinion is that the ICC should focus on the format which is less time consuming, more revenue generating and something which can attract new fans. And that would be the T20 format.

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Right now cricket has 3 different formats and cricket boards doing more experiment with the format (Positive: More choice for cricket fans; Con : Fans are divided). Just wondering, what if ICC focus on only 1 format similar to other sports? This might change some dynamics, i suppose. Tough choice indeed and can understand the dilemma among the cricket fraternity. #Speculation_FYI Grin

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