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Quote from: mersal on January 18, 2020, 11:32:47 AM

He is giving his best whenever he got chances but presence of dhoni didn't allow him to play more matches unfortunately but now there is a vacancy to fill that spot and he could be a strong competition for that place compared to pant or other wicket keeping batsman.

It looks like India got the best player to fill the spot who can bat really well but you cannot find a replacement for Dhoni because of the skills he had including his leadership skills as well as the finisher he is in the history of cricket.

I forgot to mention that Dhoni's place can be never replaced but KL Rahul also have good wicket keeping skills and very handy when it comes to scoring at number 4 or 5 the place of Dhoni in his earlier career.

Pant can be choose in T20 because of his shot making abilities but he lacks consistency and sometimes simply throwing away his wicket could spoil his international career.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on January 18, 2020, 12:06:02 PM

India is a completely different team and they are winning matches and the level of players Australia had in the past was legendary and it cannot be replaced, in short the level of quality from Australia came down and so is the reason it has become a level playing field Wink

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Australia did have a quality world class bowling line up in the past and they had some great batsman in Test and ODI format and so is the reason they dominated world cricket for a very long time and was winning World Cups but you have to remember that India defeated Australia when they were in prime form in 2001 and before that Sachin Tendulkar single handlinly took over the Australian bowlers and won many series in the past, hope you remember the 1998 Sharjah cup Tongue

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Quote from: mersal on January 18, 2020, 11:32:47 AM

He is giving his best whenever he got chances but presence of dhoni didn't allow him to play more matches unfortunately but now there is a vacancy to fill that spot and he could be a strong competition for that place compared to pant or other wicket keeping batsman.

It looks like India got the best player to fill the spot who can bat really well but you cannot find a replacement for Dhoni because of the skills he had including his leadership skills as well as the finisher he is in the history of cricket.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 18, 2020, 11:40:01 AM

Those figures will change s lot in coming years. Team India is a different team now. They are more aggressive and commited than the oldies. Tomorrows match is very important, looking at India's perfomance in the last match I am sure everyone here will be eager to watch it.

India is a completely different team and they are winning matches and the level of players Australia had in the past was legendary and it cannot be replaced, in short the level of quality from Australia came down and so is the reason it has become a level playing field Wink

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India vs Australia 3rd ODI (One day international) will be held on Tomorrow 19.01.2020
This match is most important for both team.
India and Australia ODI head to head
Total match: 139
India win: 51
Australia win: 78
No result: 10

I think both team will perform well. All player of both team are on Form. Virat kohili is the captain of team India and Aroan Finch is the captain of team Australia. Both captain has different plan and they optimist that they will perform well.

Those figures will change s lot in coming years. Team India is a different team now. They are more aggressive and commited than the oldies. Tomorrows match is very important, looking at India's perfomance in the last match I am sure everyone here will be eager to watch it.

Everyone , including me is waiting for the tomorrow match. Although i am not gambling on it, yet i would like to hear the views as who is the most favorite among the two and odds favors which team now ?
Another thing is that this match will make the Sunday an exciting one Wink

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Quote from: jonyjon2456 on January 18, 2020, 05:16:15 AM

India vs Australia 3rd ODI (One day international) will be held on Tomorrow 19.01.2020
This match is most important for both team.
India and Australia ODI head to head
Total match: 139
India win: 51
Australia win: 78
No result: 10

I think both team will perform well. All player of both team are on Form. Virat kohili is the captain of team India and Aroan Finch is the captain of team Australia. Both captain has different plan and they optimist that they will perform well.

Those figures will change s lot in coming years. Team India is a different team now. They are more aggressive and commited than the oldies. Tomorrows match is very important, looking at India's perfomance in the last match I am sure everyone here will be eager to watch it.

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Quote from: akhjob on January 18, 2020, 11:10:47 AM

This doesn't mean he is a consistent player, it just proves that he is in a fantastic form right now. A consistent player is one we can always look up to when the team needs him the most throughout his career. Maybe if we give him more time, who knows, we might find him to be a consistent player for India.

He is giving his best whenever he got chances but presence of dhoni didn't allow him to play more matches unfortunately but now there is a vacancy to fill that spot and he could be a strong competition for that place compared to pant or other wicket keeping batsman.

Let him to play more matches and he will show his consistency as well.

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Quote from: akhjob on January 18, 2020, 11:10:47 AM

This doesn't mean he is a consistent player, it just proves that he is in a fantastic form right now. A consistent player is one we can always look up to when the team needs him the most throughout his career. Maybe if we give him more time, who knows, we might find him to be a consistent player for India.

Apart from Kohli and Rohit tell me 2 other players in the Indian team we can say that, take Australia other than Steve Smith and Labuschagne who else is consistent, in England other than Ben Stokes who is the other player who is consistent, what about South Africa tell me one player who is consistent and that is the case with the rest of the teams. Form translates to consistency and you cannot differentiate that. Wink

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 18, 2020, 10:26:01 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on January 18, 2020, 05:53:47 AM

I do agree that consistency is the key factor and Rahul is definitely not the most consistent player out there, but he is much better than many other players like Pant and Samson these days and he has the experience to back it up.

If you are looking at the past few series KL Rahul is performing really well and that too consistently. If someone is able to score 91, 102, 77, 45, 54, 47 and 80 in his last 8 matches and you do not consider it as a consistent performance then who is the most consistent player in world right now. He is really consistent and he is performing extraordinary well and he impressed me with his wicket keeping skills as well and he should be in the team for a really long time as he is really young too.

This doesn't mean he is a consistent player, it just proves that he is in a fantastic form right now. A consistent player is one we can always look up to when the team needs him the most throughout his career. Maybe if we give him more time, who knows, we might find him to be a consistent player for India.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 18, 2020, 05:53:47 AM

I do agree that consistency is the key factor and Rahul is definitely not the most consistent player out there, but he is much better than many other players like Pant and Samson these days and he has the experience to back it up.

If you are looking at the past few series KL Rahul is performing really well and that too consistently. If someone is able to score 91, 102, 77, 45, 54, 47 and 80 in his last 8 matches and you do not consider it as a consistent performance then who is the most consistent player in world right now. He is really consistent and he is performing extraordinary well and he impressed me with his wicket keeping skills as well and he should be in the team for a really long time as he is really young too.

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Quote from: jonyjon2456 on January 18, 2020, 05:16:15 AM

India vs Australia 3rd ODI (One day international) will be held on Tomorrow 19.01.2020
This match is most important for both team.
India and Australia ODI head to head
Total match: 139
India win: 51
Australia win: 78
No result: 10

I think both team will perform well. All player of both team are on Form. Virat kohili is the captain of team India and Aroan Finch is the captain of team Australia. Both captain has different plan and they optimist that they will perform well.

India is a completely a different team now compared to 15 years back where they mostly relied on particular batsman for scoring and if he got out then that is the end but now everyone can be a match winner with the ball and bat so head to head comparision may not give exact analysis of match.

Moreover Virat knows the bangalore pitch more than anyone because it is his home ground since the beginning of IPL tournament,expecting a century from him at this match.

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I guessed so, Yesterday I shared with a person that India won the second game but I didn't think that India could win such in a way, sorry for Smith's 98 runs and Dhawa's 96 runs, I think both two hundred could bring more entertainment at the 2nd ODI, But we have seen the disappointing result from the Australian bowling department, It's true that This is cricket, not every day is yours, but still, my prediction goes to Australia to win this Series, I hope the 3rd ODI will be the same as the 1st one, Whatever the case is, I Can't wait anymore to enjoy the test Series Between these two countries.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 18, 2020, 05:27:18 AM

I am going to pick Australia in the final ODI too. India batted well yesterday and if Australia was a bit more alert then I think they could win it too. At some stage it did not look that hard however we must admit that some of the bowling was very good from India.

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Who will win on Sunday, its hard to guess but lets see some stats for this upcoming match. The last two matches at Bengaluru between Australia and India produced 650 Plus runs means the match will be high scoring one. Rohit has made more than 300+ runs in this ground in last 3 ODIs. Look like India will be favorite at Bengaluru seeing the records.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 18, 2020, 05:27:18 AM

I am going to pick Australia in the final ODI too. India batted well yesterday and if Australia was a bit more alert then I think they could win it too. At some stage it did not look that hard however we must admit that some of the bowling was very good from India.

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India have comeback and what a comeback it was but they always need a shocker match to come back strong which was the previous match that was a shutter disappointment. I still choose India as it was not a single player that performed well overall the team performed great. They need to improve on their bowling definitely but Aus have shown their dependence on Smith as he was the only one to cross 50+ while the others were like guest appearances. After he got out they just managed some 80 runs and lost 5 wickets.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 18, 2020, 03:22:36 AM

His record in middle order are promising but sometimes stats bluff big time. contribution in winning cause is more important than making runs in one-sided games.

I do agree that consistency is the key factor and Rahul is definitely not the most consistent player out there, but he is much better than many other players like Pant and Samson these days and he has the experience to back it up.

He has amazing records in the IPL too and I have heard commentators mention how good he is across all 3 formats(Especially Sunny G). KL Rahul is the wicket-keeper I will back through and through across all 3 formats.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 18, 2020, 05:27:18 AM

I am going to pick Australia in the final ODI too. India batted well yesterday and if Australia was a bit more alert then I think they could win it too. At some stage it did not look that hard however we must admit that some of the bowling was very good from India.

I will create the pool shortly and feel free to join there.

I hope India win this series, Indian Bowler and batsman great performance last match. so next match i support win India...........

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I am going to pick Australia in the final ODI too. India batted well yesterday and if Australia was a bit more alert then I think they could win it too. At some stage it did not look that hard however we must admit that some of the bowling was very good from India.

I will create the pool shortly and feel free to join there.

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India vs Australia 3rd ODI (One day international) will be held on Tomorrow 19.01.2020
This match is most important for both team.
India and Australia ODI head to head
Total match: 139
India win: 51
Australia win: 78
No result: 10

I think both team will perform well. All player of both team are on Form. Virat kohili is the captain of team India and Aroan Finch is the captain of team Australia. Both captain has different plan and they optimist that they will perform well.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 17, 2020, 04:47:30 PM

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The last meme exactly matches to what has happened after the last ODI. I now feel pant will now become a standby wicket keeper. This shows how you can lose your spot if you do not perform in Indian cricket.

I sympathize with Pant as he's one my fav young player but he can use some time off and fine-tuning as he's young fella and has plenty of time to bounce back in the limited over cricket. his test spot as wicket keeper- batsman seems fine after Saha retirement or at least in SENA countries.

About Rahul's as an batsman-Wicket Keeper, in limited over cricket management can try him at this position because it helps their cause ( middle order crisis ) and its opens the possibility of including one extra batsman as well. Having said that i have been watching KL Rahul for last 2-3 years but this is the first time he justified his selection IMO and i really enjoyed his match winning performance.

But its only one performance and consistency is very much required so i won't jump in any conclusion and wait for more games.

Quote from: Haunebu on January 18, 2020, 03:04:07 AM

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You underestimate what Rahul brings to the table. This way of thinking was what gave Pant so many chances and we all know what happened. KL Rahul is the middle order king that fans have been waiting for quite sometime now and I think he basically grabbed the spot.

His record in middle order are promising but sometimes stats bluff big time. contribution in winning cause is more important than making runs in one-sided games.

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KL Rahul becoming better day by day. Behind the wicket and as a batsman as well. I think Pant really had enough and he needs a break to realize what he had. Too young to realize the gem he had but wasted it most of the time.

KL Rahul reminds me Rahul Dravid when he bat and when he keeps he reminds me Dhoni in some cases but obviously Dhoni is THE BEST when it comes to keep.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2020, 10:12:34 PM

I don't agree with it. It is true that Rishabh Pant is under a lot of pressure and he is not performing. But at the same time, KL Rahul is a part-time wicket keeper and he can't really replace Pant in the team on a permanent basis. It may affect his batting, and as of now Rahul is an important component of the batting lineup. Pant can be replaced by Sanju Samson or Ishan Kishan, but not by KL Rahul.

You underestimate what Rahul brings to the table. This way of thinking was what gave Pant so many chances and we all know what happened. KL Rahul is the middle order king that fans have been waiting for quite sometime now and I think he basically grabbed the spot.

The current lineup seems perfect and I don't want to see Pant or Samson replace Rahul as the wicket-keeper anytime soon. I would replace Saini with Chahar or Bhuvi and not replace the rest.

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