This is part of play these bowlers give you 0 - 5 historical whitewash in twenty/20 games so if they outplayed in one game you cannot blame them they done good work but small ground and Taylor both stand between them as same happen in South Africa they lost test series and now play back in ODI its all about game.
That is a good comparison, South Africa too won the match chasing the total but it was a below par total and New Zealand won the match chasing a big total and with the bowlers India had i thought it was a good score to win the match for India but Ross Taylor played an incredible innings to take the team home and i am expecting Kohli will come up with a strategy for the second ODI, but toss will be the major factor as the team chasing might win the matches. 
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At the end Ross Taylor nailed it and Indian bowlers killed it. You cannot always blame the pitch. It was Indian bowler who did not perform. India has been again fined for the slow over rate.
This was the true highlight of Ross Taylor as he was involved in the T20 drama and on both occasions the pressure got the best of him and he was not able to take the team to victory and in this ODI he stayed till the end and took the team to victory chasing a huge score and i am glad that they showcased a better performance and now India will be coming back for a competitive series and expecting fireworks in the second one. I blame the flat pitch for providing nothing to the bowlers. Also, boundaries in New Zealand grounds are too small for any player to hit fours and sixes so easily which is again a thing of negative for blowers. Ross Taylor's good streak against the India is still continuing and I was expecting and bet on India due to their recent performance in T20 against the same team but my bad luck today was not my day.
I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
This was very exciting match as we have two teams done hard work but at the end New Zealand able to stop losing streak against mighty Indian history repeat here as New Zealand chase this second time first against Australia same ground same target and at the end same result Indians can bounce back now this could be good series to watch.I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
At the end Ross Taylor nailed it and Indian bowlers killed it. You cannot always blame the pitch. It was Indian bowler who did not perform. India has been again fined for the slow over rate.
I blame the flat pitch for providing nothing to the bowlers. Also, boundaries in New Zealand grounds are too small for any player to hit fours and sixes so easily which is again a thing of negative for blowers. Ross Taylor's good streak against the India is still continuing and I was expecting and bet on India due to their recent performance in T20 against the same team but my bad luck today was not my day.
I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
This was very exciting match as we have two teams done hard work but at the end New Zealand able to stop losing streak against mighty Indian history repeat here as New Zealand chase this second time first against Australia same ground same target and at the end same result Indians can bounce back now this could be good series to watch.I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
At the end Ross Taylor nailed it and Indian bowlers killed it. You cannot always blame the pitch. It was Indian bowler who did not perform. India has been again fined for the slow over rate.
I blame the flat pitch for providing nothing to the bowlers. Also, boundaries in New Zealand grounds are too small for any player to hit fours and sixes so easily which is again a thing of negative for blowers. Ross Taylor's good streak against the India is still continuing and I was expecting and bet on India due to their recent performance in T20 against the same team but my bad luck today was not my day.
I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
This was very exciting match as we have two teams done hard work but at the end New Zealand able to stop losing streak against mighty Indian history repeat here as New Zealand chase this second time first against Australia same ground same target and at the end same result Indians can bounce back now this could be good series to watch. I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.
I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.
I highly doubt that merely copy/paste of any structure going to help Pakistani cause here, unless PCB recruit some sort of honest individuals, they no need to be 100% honest in that case but they should put country's interest first. At least avoid petty politics and select players on merit only, not because he's someone's nephew etc.
I believe that the major pillar of the structures I was referring to is "merit". So by copying/pasting, I was referring to the cloning of structure which is completely based on merit, hard work, and competitiveness.
I blame the flat pitch for providing nothing to the bowlers. Also, boundaries in New Zealand grounds are too small for any player to hit fours and sixes so easily which is again a thing of negative for blowers. Ross Taylor's good streak against the India is still continuing and I was expecting and bet on India due to their recent performance in T20 against the same team but my bad luck today was not my day.
I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
I guess India must need to work again on their spinners like after Ashwin, Guldeep and Chahal were doing well but now they became new Ashwins. It seems India need to bring new spinners so that they may look dangerous how they did in the last tour of New Zealand.
New Zealand team are one of the best ODI team at the moment. They are making new records and today was their largest successful chase.
They'd also be knowing Indian pitches for the next worldcup. But many things could change in the next three years. And they can't always depend on Ross Taylor as he's getting older.
Don't you think that you are over-estimating NZ a bit too much just because they won 1 match against India? There are 2 matches remaining in this series and I am fairly confident that India will bounce back and win both of them.They'd also be knowing Indian pitches for the next worldcup. But many things could change in the next three years. And they can't always depend on Ross Taylor as he's getting older.
This is the same team that defeated a team like Australia comprehensively recently. Also, NZ got decimated in the T20 series which is why they are still hurting 100%. They need to do something special if they want to win against the rampaging Indian team at the moment.
They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.
Even i was expecting the pressure to consume them and make a mess and fail to chase the score as they are not having Williamson in the team.They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily.NZ would be most relieved today after breaking the loss jinx and winning the match comfortable in the end. Taylor who stood like a wall helped NZ in this win along with Natham and Nicholls who also played well. Taylor for his brilliant knock of 109 not out was given Player of the match. At one time when Neesham & Grandhomme fall quickly India just could have made comeback if they would have got out Taylor during this time.
They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily.Indian bowling lineup is not in best state. Bumrah just recently recovered and made back into team and management are trying some new chemistry each time. They are well aware of all such risks and are taking so for preparing the youngsters.
Batsman did great out there putting up a good total but bowling failed to pick up wickets.
And they can't always depend on Ross Taylor as he's getting older.
Well they have lot of players. I think there will be lot of players right for the Taylor's slot but experience is the only worrying factor then. There are lot of players like Guptil , Latham who are dangerous and they yet have lot of years to play cricket. So even if Taylor get retired I don't think there would be much change in performances.
They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily.Indian bowling lineup is not in best state. Bumrah just recently recovered and made back into team and management are trying some new chemistry each time. They are well aware of all such risks and are taking so for preparing the youngsters.
Batsman did great out there putting up a good total but bowling failed to pick up wickets.
And they can't always depend on Ross Taylor as he's getting older.
Well they have lot of players. I think there will be lot of players right for the Taylor's slot but experience is the only worrying factor then. There are lot of players like Guptil , Latham who are dangerous and they yet have lot of years to play cricket. So even if Taylor get retired I don't think there would be much change in performances.
They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.
Even i was expecting the pressure to consume them and make a mess and fail to chase the score as they are not having Williamson in the team.They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily.NZ would be most relieved today after breaking the loss jinx and winning the match comfortable in the end. Taylor who stood like a wall helped NZ in this win along with Natham and Nicholls who also played well. Taylor for his brilliant knock of 109 not out was given Player of the match. At one time when Neesham & Grandhomme fall quickly India just could have made comeback if they would have got out Taylor during this time.
New Zealand team are one of the best ODI team at the moment. They are making new records and today was their largest successful chase.
They'd also be knowing Indian pitches for the next worldcup. But many things could change in the next three years. And they can't always depend on Ross Taylor as he's getting older.
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NZ would be most relieved today after breaking the loss jinx and winning the match comfortable in the end. Taylor who stood like a wall helped NZ in this win along with Natham and Nicholls who also played well. Taylor for his brilliant knock of 109 not out was given Player of the match. At one time when Neesham & Grandhomme fall quickly India just could have made comeback if they would have got out Taylor during this time.
Tom Latham also contributed in this winning with his high strike rate of 143 and 63 runs, that's good start from the NZ after the complete knock out in their T20 series.Interested to see the comeback from team India in the next match and also the playing squad. NZ would be most relieved today after breaking the loss jinx and winning the match comfortable in the end. Taylor who stood like a wall helped NZ in this win along with Natham and Nicholls who also played well. Taylor for his brilliant knock of 109 not out was given Player of the match. At one time when Neesham & Grandhomme fall quickly India just could have made comeback if they would have got out Taylor during this time.
They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.
Even i was expecting the pressure to consume them and make a mess and fail to chase the score as they are not having Williamson in the team.They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily.NZ would be most relieved today after breaking the loss jinx and winning the match comfortable in the end. Taylor who stood like a wall helped NZ in this win along with Natham and Nicholls who also played well. Taylor for his brilliant knock of 109 not out was given Player of the match. At one time when Neesham & Grandhomme fall quickly India just could have made comeback if they would have got out Taylor during this time.
They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.
Even i was expecting the pressure to consume them and make a mess and fail to chase the score as they are not having Williamson in the team.They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
The India bowlers were not able to contain the New Zealand batsman even with a good total on the board and India will try their best to bounce back, the odds for New Zealand to win were really high after India scored a huge total and i was not having the confidence to place a bet as i did not expect New Zealand to chase the score so easily. 
Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.
I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.
I highly doubt that merely copy/paste of any structure going to help Pakistani cause here, unless PCB recruit some sort of honest individuals, they no need to be 100% honest in that case but they should put country's interest first. At least avoid petty politics and select players on merit only, not because he's someone's nephew etc.
Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie 
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They deserved a win after their recent debacle. Taylor and Latham were spectacular along with Nichols. I have always had issues with Shardul leaking runs which is why Saini and Chahar are better in comparison in my opinion.. They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).
This one is pretty much in the bag with Indian batsmen having stepped on the gas a bit for the last 5-6 overs. They are cruising at a comfortable 89 for no loss after 21 overs. Need just 84 runs now at less than 3 rpo. The senior Pakistan team routinely gets booted out at the hands of India in world cups. No surprise that the young padawans are also making a habit out of it..
Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.
Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie .
. They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.
Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie .
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Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.
I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.
I highly doubt that merely copy/paste of any structure going to help Pakistani cause here, unless PCB recruit some sort of honest individuals, they no need to be 100% honest in that case but they should put country's interest first. At least avoid petty politics and select players on merit only, not because he's someone's nephew etc.
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