The Afghan bowlers conceded too many runs during the last 10 overs. West Indies was struggling at 160/5 after 40 overs, but they managed almost 90 runs from the last 10 overs. This has been one of the issues with Afghanistan for quite sometime. They are not good finishers. Even Rashid Khan and Mujeeb ur Rahman went for a lot of runs during the last few overs.
West Indies recovered well as they lost Kieron Pollard in the 40th over with a score of 160 runs and from that they were able to put some runs on the board so that they will be able to defend the total as Afghanistan is not known to have consistent batsman and if the West Indies bowlers are able to restrict the flow of runs they would start going for big hits and start loosing their wickets, Afghanistan lost a wicket in the first over but after that they are playing well without taking much risk and if they can play like this till the 40th over without loosing much wicket then they are able to chase this total. 
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Afghanistan did the right thing as they won the toss and elected to field and West Indies put a modest total of 247 runs, Mohammad Nabi and Rashid Khan bowled well to restrict them and if Afghanistan can bat properly they can win and level the series but i doubt whether they have the patience to chase a modest total, anyone following the match and if so who are the main players in Afghanistan batting line up.
If ODI is losing popularity, then the ICC can consider conducting more T20 matches and reducing the number of ODIs. But changing the format is not the right solution, IMO.
I don't think so that ODI is losing popularity. It's still that same packed stadium here. So I don't think its gonna happen either way.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
There’re some ODI which record low turnouts but those are between lower tier teams, whenever top teams play the stadium are always full. In my personal opinion ODI popularity has taken a substantial hit, but I yet would not change it’s format I would rather have ICC introduce more day and night ODIs to pull in the crowds.
Afghanistan can beat west indies today? because of West Indies is 239/7 in 49 over maybe they can give the target of 250 runs or more so it will be easy to chase down for Afghanistan?
I don't think so. The Afghan bowlers conceded too many runs during the last 10 overs. West Indies was struggling at 160/5 after 40 overs, but they managed almost 90 runs from the last 10 overs. This has been one of the issues with Afghanistan for quite sometime. They are not good finishers. Even Rashid Khan and Mujeeb ur Rahman went for a lot of runs during the last few overs.
Afghanistan can beat west indies today? because of West Indies is 239/7 in 49 overs maybe they can give the target of 250 runs or more so it will be easy to chase down for Afghanistan?
^^^ In India, the Afghanistan vs West Indies match is being telecast on Star Sports 1 HD (they are showing the domestic T20 competition in Star Sports 2 HD). BTW, I don't know whether the matches are available outside South Asia. In India, we have close to 20 sports channels and you may always find some live match going on in at least some of the channels. Anyway, West Indies is off to a good (but slow) start. So far they have made 78/0 from 19.0 overs with Evin Lewis and Shai Hope opening the innings.
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In India we have Test not being popular while in England they find test entertaining to watch.
Well I Though Test match in between India and Australia is always exciting especially those old days one when Sachin, Ganguly, VVS Laxman and gang stopped Australia from their record breaking constitutive wins. If I recall they (India) won the Test from a point where they were nearly losing the series and finally they won the series. In those old days there were really no IPL and T-20 shit.In India we have Test not being popular while in England they find test entertaining to watch.
In England, Ashes is always popular and it's again against Australia. Fact is when Australia plays against a big team then it's always entertaining especially test match.
By the way, can anyone pass me a link of this WI vs Afghanistan match. I can not see it in my tele not is able to find a live link too. This match seems to have good potential to make some money :-P
I just need to follow few overs first.
It's the length, nothing else.
Exactly. Some do like and some don't. Its just that in India we don't find many liking this format (length being the issue like you said). Sometimes opponents also matters (IMO).
I don't think so that ODI is losing popularity. It's still that same packed stadium here. So I don't think its gonna happen either way.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Outside South Asia, it looks like ODI cricket is losing popularity. Almost all the test playing nations and many of the associate nations have now started high voltage T20 franchise tournaments and nowadays a lot of the fans prefer these leagues when compared to international cricket (especially ODI and test). My suggestion is that cricket needs to change with time and the ICC needs to stop giving unfair advantage to the formats which have waning popularity among the fans.
Well cricket fans have different kind of mindset and preference around the globe. In India we have Test not being popular while in England they find test entertaining to watch. Its same with other format as well. Its not kinda goes all hand-in-hand with every area and nor will come close in future I guess.
I though think you have something in your point with increase/decrease in no. of games in format instead of changing the format.
If ODI is losing popularity, then the ICC can consider conducting more T20 matches and reducing the number of ODIs. But changing the format is not the right solution, IMO.
I don't think so that ODI is losing popularity. It's still that same packed stadium here. So I don't think its gonna happen either way.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Yes ODI would not lose popularity reason being the game gets over in a days’ time and those cricket fans would like to watch the match for some hours where both teams batting and bowling skills could be displayed and which is also not in a very short format like T20. So ODI is perfect for them.
I don't think so that ODI is losing popularity. It's still that same packed stadium here. So I don't think its gonna happen either way.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Outside South Asia, it looks like ODI cricket is losing popularity. Almost all the test playing nations and many of the associate nations have now started high voltage T20 franchise tournaments and nowadays a lot of the fans prefer these leagues when compared to international cricket (especially ODI and test). My suggestion is that cricket needs to change with time and the ICC needs to stop giving unfair advantage to the formats which have waning popularity among the fans.
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Have you seen the proposition of Sachin Tendulkar to revamp the ODI 50 overs to four innings 25 overs per side, do you think it will improve ODI or will destroy the entertaining factor, considering the T20 matches are taking over all these formats there is nothing wrong in experimenting but the biggest question is whether any board will start experimenting the ODI format anytime soon.
I think reshaping it to 25 overs a side is somewhat similar to T-20 (just a 5 overs- a side difference). TBH seems a little bit odd proposition to me. I am not sure what is the factor behind it but I am gonna guess it should be crowd related. If it is then I don't think we have low crowd issues in ODI. Even in ODI's that India play outside we have more crowd then the hosting countries. Just for Test it seems like a concern but for other formats I don't they have any crowd related issue.
Having a break after 25 overs is OK. But limiting the innings to 25 overs will make it too similar to T20, as you have already posted.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
It's the length, nothing else. If ODI is losing popularity, then the ICC can consider conducting more T20 matches and reducing the number of ODIs. But changing the format is not the right solution, IMO.
I don't think so that ODI is losing popularity. It's still that same packed stadium here. So I don't think its gonna happen either way.
Regarding changing format, the problem in Test no getting attention I can guess we can change that first need to determine the cause properly for the decline in crowd attendance.
Have you seen the proposition of Sachin Tendulkar to revamp the ODI 50 overs to four innings 25 overs per side, do you think it will improve ODI or will destroy the entertaining factor, considering the T20 matches are taking over all these formats there is nothing wrong in experimenting but the biggest question is whether any board will start experimenting the ODI format anytime soon.
I think reshaping it to 25 overs a side is somewhat similar to T-20 (just a 5 overs- a side difference). TBH seems a little bit odd proposition to me. I am not sure what is the factor behind it but I am gonna guess it should be crowd related. If it is then I don't think we have low crowd issues in ODI. Even in ODI's that India play outside we have more crowd then the hosting countries. Just for Test it seems like a concern but for other formats I don't they have any crowd related issue.
Having a break after 25 overs is OK. But limiting the innings to 25 overs will make it too similar to T20, as you have already posted. The bowlers will lose whatever advantage they have currently, in case the innings is shortened to 25 overs. We already have T20, and therefore I don't think that further shortening the ODI format will be a good idea. If ODI is losing popularity, then the ICC can consider conducting more T20 matches and reducing the number of ODIs. But changing the format is not the right solution, IMO.
Have you seen the proposition of Sachin Tendulkar to revamp the ODI 50 overs to four innings 25 overs per side, do you think it will improve ODI or will destroy the entertaining factor, considering the T20 matches are taking over all these formats there is nothing wrong in experimenting but the biggest question is whether any board will start experimenting the ODI format anytime soon.
I think reshaping it to 25 overs a side is somewhat similar to T-20 (just a 5 overs- a side difference). TBH seems a little bit odd proposition to me. I am not sure what is the factor behind it but I am gonna guess it should be crowd related. If it is then I don't think we have low crowd issues in ODI. Even in ODI's that India play outside we have more crowd then the hosting countries. Just for Test it seems like a concern but for other formats I don't they have any crowd related issue.
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I don't think any board going to try this as we already have twenty/20 version and its not going to help as now many new leagues coming with different ways and its already hurting too much ODI they just need to do some better for this format like equal chance for both bowlers and batsmen because right now most things helping batting not bowling.
The ICC is trying their best to attract the audience for Test matches and we might see a time when you find it difficult to attract a crowd in the 50 over game and if that happens then these instructions can be implemented, it is a good concept if the ICC is considering to experiment with cricket and it will be fun for the audience and the main purpose is revenue in any sport and if they think that they can earn more revenue with these changes they might go for it. I don't think any board going to try this as we already have twenty/20 version and its not going to help as now many new leagues coming with different ways and its already hurting too much ODI they just need to do some better for this format like equal chance for both bowlers and batsmen because right now most things helping batting not bowling.
Have you seen the proposition of Sachin Tendulkar to revamp the ODI 50 overs to four innings 25 overs per side, do you think it will improve ODI or will destroy the entertaining factor, considering the T20 matches are taking over all these formats there is nothing wrong in experimenting but the biggest question is whether any board will start experimenting the ODI format anytime soon.
I don't think any board going to try this as we already have twenty/20 version and its not going to help as now many new leagues coming with different ways and its already hurting too much ODI they just need to do some better for this format like equal chance for both bowlers and batsmen because right now most things helping batting not bowling.
Have you seen the proposition of Sachin Tendulkar to revamp the ODI 50 overs to four innings 25 overs per side, do you think it will improve ODI or will destroy the entertaining factor, considering the T20 matches are taking over all these formats there is nothing wrong in experimenting but the biggest question is whether any board will start experimenting the ODI format anytime soon.
Mohammad Shahzad was their best player who always gave them a good start and i have no idea why he was suspended, they need to find good batsman if they need to continue challenging the top teams.
The explanation that the Afghan cricket board gave is that he had breached the ACB’s Code of Conduct, and therefore suspended for an "indefinite" period. Rather than hurting Shahzad, it seems to be hurting the Afghans more. Things were not warm between Shahzad and the ACB for quite some time. Ever since he was excluded from the world cup (2019 CWC) squad, Shahzad was threatening to retire from international cricket. And back in 2018, he was suspended for a few months for playing in a Pakistani T20 tournament without ACB's NOC.
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Let's not forget the fact that this time the West Indies squad comprised of all the T20 stars. I am talking about players such as Kieron Pollard, Jason Holder, Evin Lewis, Shimron Hetmyer, Roston Chase, and Nicholas Pooran. The Afghan spin attack ranks among one of the best, but without enough runs on board there is a limit for what they can do out there.
The pitch report said that it will help the spinners and Afghanistan has good spinners and they have Rashid Khan who is a world class spinners but if they are not able to score runs then there is no defending those small totals even if you have the worlds best bowling line up. Afghanistan will be a challenge in the T20 format as they have big hitters and some good spinners.Let's not forget the fact that this time the West Indies squad comprised of all the T20 stars. I am talking about players such as Kieron Pollard, Jason Holder, Evin Lewis, Shimron Hetmyer, Roston Chase, and Nicholas Pooran. The Afghan spin attack ranks among one of the best, but without enough runs on board there is a limit for what they can do out there.
Both their batsmen and the pace bowlers are out of form. They have been facing issues with top order batting ever since Mohammad Shahzad was suspended for indiscipline. They have tried a number of opening batsmen, and unfortunately none of the combinations have worked till now.
Mohammad Shahzad was their best player who always gave them a good start and i have no idea why he was suspended, they need to find good batsman if they need to continue challenging the top teams. 
So many Cricket matches going on currently that it is tough to keep track(India vs Ban, NZ vs ENG etc). Just checked out the highlights of this match and am sad to see Chase miss his century by such a small margin.
Chase has become a major asset for the WI team these days. He is performing well with both bat and ball and I think he will become a permanent addition in the team. Expected a lot more from Alzarri Joseph(Amazing IPL debut), but he disappointed me. Lets see how Afghanistan will retaliate.
Chase has become a major asset for the WI team these days. He is performing well with both bat and ball and I think he will become a permanent addition in the team. Expected a lot more from Alzarri Joseph(Amazing IPL debut), but he disappointed me. Lets see how Afghanistan will retaliate.
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