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LOL.. war of words have erupted in Indian twitter, as most of the users celebrate the exit of Pakistan from this world cup. Harbhajan Singh, known for his pro-Pakistan tweets have once again come out in support of his favorite team:

https://twitter.com/harbhajan_singh/status/1717955943512814048

Graeme Smith, the former South African captain reacted strongly to the tweet from Harbhajan:

https://twitter.com/GraemeSmith49/status/1717958537379459133

BTW, Kiwi bowlers are looking hopeless against David Warner and Travis Head. Australia has raced to 46/0 after 4 overs.
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Pakistan vs South Africa turned out to be one of the most entertaining matches that I have seen so far. Afridi was incredible while Mohammad Wasim Jr bowled really well despite having cramps.

Markram messed up by throwing away his wicket when he was on course for a century, but Maharaj held his nerves till the end brilliantly. What a match!
Yesterday's match was very interesting. Pakistan's one mistake was that if they could have bowled the full 50 overs in tomorrow's match, Pakistan would have won the match. If Pakistan wins this match, they would have a chance to survive in the next round. For example, in yesterday's match, Pakistan scored 270 runs in 46.4 overs, here if Pakistan could have played the full 50 overs and scored 30 more runs, then South Africa would have been under a lot of pressure. I think with 30 more runs in Pakistan's favor Pakistan would have won today's match very naturally and the dream of survival in the second round would have come true.

The performance of Pakistan's bowlers in this match was better than any previous match. Pakistan bowlers were able to bowl very well. But as usual the performance of Pakistan's batsmen was quite poor. The team managed to collect only 270 runs. Against one of the best batting orders of this year's World Cup, victory was not possible given a target  of just 270 runs. However, the match became very competitive due to the excellent performance of the bowlers. No Pakistani batsman's performance is  regular. And this  is why the team is losing consistently. Pakistan managed to score only 4 points in 6 matches. Australia  has earned 6 points from 5 matches. If the Pakistan team can win all their next matches then Pakistan has a slim chance of qualifying for the semi finals.
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South Africa is reall performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.


I was watching YouTube and then suddenly, I saw a piece of news, I didn’t know whether it was fake news or real but when I researched about the news so many people said that it was fake and some said that it is real, so if you have any idea so please tell me. The news is that I heard Abrar Ahmed will come in playing 11 for Pakistan and we see him in playing 11 because Pakistan's spinning attack is not good the captain and coach decided this. Abrar Ahmed is on reserve but now we see him in playing 11.
If you have any idea about it so please share it with me but I guess it is too late for them to make the changes in the team as their chances are almost none now.
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1 more wicket for Pakistan and will have a juicy ending.

We did have a thrilling ending to this match and so far it was the first close finish match in this World Cup. That is a bit strange or the ODI matches no longer seem to be last over thrillers like the T20s.


I am hearing a lot of social media that Pakistan lost this match because the umpire did not give out and therefore DRS review did not go in Pakistan's favor but don't the Pakistan fans realize that Pakistan was losing this match throughout both innings, First, they made only 270 odds runs, then they weren't able to take quick wickets or put any dent on the scoring by South Africa.

Yes, in the last one hour of the game, they dominated the match and now crying over the social media on that decision. Strange.
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There are two matches today in the ICC World Cup tournament where one of the matches will be a very interesting match. The Australia New Zealand match is another exciting and high voltage match as we know it. New Zealand is in a good position in the World Cup tournament but Australia is not in good form as a team at all so today Australia will definitely want to secure a good position by getting full points against New Zealand. 

Today Bangladesh will fight against Netherlands in another match of the day. Bangladesh is the eighth team in the points table and the Netherlands is the bottom team in the points table. Although Bangladesh are ahead in all aspects today at the Eden Gardens in Kolkata, the recent performance will surely disappoint the Bangladeshi fans. Bangladesh will definitely play for 2 points today.
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Pakistan vs South Africa turned out to be one of the most entertaining matches that I have seen so far. Afridi was incredible while Mohammad Wasim Jr bowled really well despite having cramps.

Markram messed up by throwing away his wicket when he was on course for a century, but Maharaj held his nerves till the end brilliantly. What a match!
Yesterday's match was very interesting. Pakistan's one mistake was that if they could have bowled the full 50 overs in tomorrow's match, Pakistan would have won the match. If Pakistan wins this match, they would have a chance to survive in the next round. For example, in yesterday's match, Pakistan scored 270 runs in 46.4 overs, here if Pakistan could have played the full 50 overs and scored 30 more runs, then South Africa would have been under a lot of pressure. I think with 30 more runs in Pakistan's favor Pakistan would have won today's match very naturally and the dream of survival in the second round would have come true.
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The 26th match of the World Cup is South Africa vs Pakistan. South Africa has been performing brilliantly since the beginning of this World Cup. So far South Africa have played 5 matches and won 4 matches, 
I think South Africa have more chances to win today's match.
It's entertaining ever match for me because today Pakistan has played somehow they're the best cricket because they have stop one of strong team of world cup below 300 who had scored already 350+ easily in each and every match of them and against Pakistan they lose his 9th wickets and almost about to lose his 10th wickets too but unfortunately due to impair bad call of leg before wickets for Shami they able to survive and scored last runs otherwise they will lose this important match too. I am so impressed because Pakistan become the first team to give such a difficult time to South Africa in this world cup but unfortunately due to some recent bad defeat they are out of world Cup until any miracle happened and they come back.
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I agreed about this today their poor batting were completely responsible for this lost because if they were able to stay until 50 overs then surely they can add 15 to 20 more runs which could be vital for their win but poor selection of hitting from the top order bring them down, and now they are out of the world cup with four matches losing streak even now it's time for them to think about this and having changes as well which will improve their game because they were playing into this world cup without any proper strategy and study which bring them down on earth.

They need quality spinners and also need to work on for their top batsmen able to play quality spin as well which is having problem for years and their defeats in big events now after this event we will have few changes into this team as well because speculations are already started about this all.


In the World Cup,the luck will not favour the South African team,because they lost many semi-final matches.But today the bad luck was moved to the team Pakistan,specially the wide ball which touch the leg of the batsman and Umpire give as wide at the critical time.The Umpire decision of not out when the LBW was made by the bowler very close,even though Pakistan had taken the DRS the decision was upto the Umpire call was the additional positive to the South Africa at the tenth wicket.So the South Africa player get aware to pass the hard ball.So the last over move to the spin which was easy to score the last 4 runs for the South Africa batsman.
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What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.
Basically, Pakistan's batting is not good enough to win the match, though unfortunately they lost.  If two wickets were not given in the last over, South Africa might have put a little more pressure on the match, but at the last moment, they had to lose the match as Pakistan could not bowl well. And South Africa were under a lot of pressure today as they struggled to match Pakistan. I have also seen this match many times where South Africa played brilliantly and won the match very hard. So far played many matches South Africa lost only one match all the matches got excellent. And South Africa will probably be in the best position in this World Cup and will put up a great fight for the title.
I agreed about this today their poor batting were completely responsible for this lost because if they were able to stay until 50 overs then surely they can add 15 to 20 more runs which could be vital for their win but poor selection of hitting from the top order bring them down, and now they are out of the world cup with four matches losing streak even now it's time for them to think about this and having changes as well which will improve their game because they were playing into this world cup without any proper strategy and study which bring them down on earth.

They need quality spinners and also need to work on for their top batsmen able to play quality spin as well which is having problem for years and their defeats in big events now after this event we will have few changes into this team as well because speculations are already started about this all.
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It is not just a matter of batting, the Pakistani team has proved to be weak in all three areas.It is not easy to defend 270 runs.Where the pitch is favorable to the batsman, a big target makes it easier for the bowlers to defend it.Pakistani bowlers continued their efforts till the end but the low score and weak performance could not win the match.
Today's match also made it clear that the batting of a South African team that is considered to be very strong can be deceiving,because today an easy target has been achieved so hard by a strong baiting line .I don't think South Africa should have taken the pressure of 270 runs.they usually scores 350 runs.
In my opinion, Pakistan did not perform as badly as many expected. 4 wickets were lost in their 136 runs. I thought that Pakistan would not be able to score 250 in this match. However, according to me, if Pakistan's top order batsmen had batted a little more responsibly, then Pakistan's score could have been 300 plus.
However, in terms of bowling, Pakistan team bowled well with a strong team like South Africa. I don't think South Africa could have scored 300 plus runs if they had batted earlier in the performance they did against Pakistan today. Because then you can see they had only one wicket left. However, my congratulations to the South African team as they managed to take their position at the top of the points table.

Like the previous matches, in today's match, the performance of Pakistan's batsmen was quite poor. A target of 271 runs was not enough to beat a big team like South Africa. Because South Africa's batting order is very strong in this World Cup. South Africa should have collected at least more than 300. But they failed to do so. And after the fourth defeat in a row, the Pakistan team has no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals. However, in today's match, we have seen a considerable improvement in the performance of the Pakistani bowlers. They bowled well enough. If the target was more than 300 then maybe the team would have been able to win today's match.
However, it is fairly certain that India, South Africa and New Zealand will play in the semi-finals. Australia is likely to finish fourth in the points table. This team is in form now.
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South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.

Yes dear It was really very Unfortunate, I was expecting to win at least this time but a poor target given by Our team, It was a really bad performance, I the Bowling end i really cant complain in todays match the weak point was the Batting end.
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It is not just a matter of batting, the Pakistani team has proved to be weak in all three areas.It is not easy to defend 270 runs.Where the pitch is favorable to the batsman, a big target makes it easier for the bowlers to defend it.Pakistani bowlers continued their efforts till the end but the low score and weak performance could not win the match.
Today's match also made it clear that the batting of a South African team that is considered to be very strong can be deceiving,because today an easy target has been achieved so hard by a strong baiting line .I don't think South Africa should have taken the pressure of 270 runs.they usually scores 350 runs.
In my opinion, Pakistan did not perform as badly as many expected. 4 wickets were lost in their 136 runs. I thought that Pakistan would not be able to score 250 in this match. However, according to me, if Pakistan's top order batsmen had batted a little more responsibly, then Pakistan's score could have been 300 plus.
However, in terms of bowling, Pakistan team bowled well with a strong team like South Africa. I don't think South Africa could have scored 300 plus runs if they had batted earlier in the performance they did against Pakistan today. Because then you can see they had only one wicket left. However, my congratulations to the South African team as they managed to take their position at the top of the points table.
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Pakistan vs South Africa turned out to be one of the most entertaining matches that I have seen so far. Afridi was incredible while Mohammad Wasim Jr bowled really well despite having cramps.

Markram messed up by throwing away his wicket when he was on course for a century, but Maharaj held his nerves till the end brilliantly. What a match!
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Basically, Pakistan's batting is not good enough to win the match, though unfortunately they lost.  If two wickets were not given in the last over, South Africa might have put a little more pressure on the match, but at the last moment, they had to lose the match as Pakistan could not bowl well. And South Africa were under a lot of pressure today as they struggled to match Pakistan. I have also seen this match many times where South Africa played brilliantly and won the match very hard. So far played many matches South Africa lost only one match all the matches got excellent. And South Africa will probably be in the best position in this World Cup and will put up a great fight for the title.

It is not just a matter of batting, the Pakistani team has proved to be weak in all three areas.It is not easy to defend 270 runs.Where the pitch is favorable to the batsman, a big target makes it easier for the bowlers to defend it.Pakistani bowlers continued their efforts till the end but the low score and weak performance could not win the match.

Today's match also made it clear that the batting of a South African team that is considered to be very strong can be deceiving,because today an easy target has been achieved so hard by a strong baiting line .I don't think South Africa should have taken the pressure of 270 runs.they usually scores 350 runs.
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South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.
Basically, Pakistan's batting is not good enough to win the match, though unfortunately they lost.  If two wickets were not given in the last over, South Africa might have put a little more pressure on the match, but at the last moment, they had to lose the match as Pakistan could not bowl well. And South Africa were under a lot of pressure today as they struggled to match Pakistan. I have also seen this match many times where South Africa played brilliantly and won the match very hard. So far played many matches South Africa lost only one match all the matches got excellent. And South Africa will probably be in the best position in this World Cup and will put up a great fight for the title.
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South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.
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In the 26th match of the World Cup, the two biggest teams of the tournament will meet in Chennai today. South Africa managed to secure their position by playing the first five matches but Pakistan could not secure their position at all. South Africa is number two in the points table with four wins after playing five matches and Pakistan is number six in the points table with only two wins after playing the same number of matches. It will be a tough fight between the two teams today.  

After back-to-back defeats, Pakistan will definitely want to bounce back in today's match. If Pakistan can't come back in this match today, they will be far away from the semi-final and if South Africa wins this match today, they will have a big chance of making the semi-final.  

Between Pakistan and South Africa, the team that wins the toss is guaranteed to bat first as it is safe to bat first on the Chennai wicket.

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.
Even though Chennai's wicket was a bit of a bowling aid, I would say Pakistan didn't score enough runs in their first innings. The way the game played in 36 overs, Pakistan could have crossed the 300 mark but the batsmen's extra haste saw Pakistan's total piled on 270 runs in the end. With no wicket in hand, it was unwise for Pakistan to bat in haste at that time.  

290 to 300 runs could have been scored even if they could have stood on the wicket till 50 overs but Pakistan could not do that. The target for South Africa is 271 runs but I won't say that Pakistan bowlers are bowling very well as they have picked up four wickets in 26 overs but if you look at the current run rate it will be seen that South African batsmen are picking up 6+ runs per over. With enough wickets in hand and not too much of a target, the outcome of this match might go in South Africa's favour.

South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.
Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.
From this world cup defeats against big teams bring all Pakistani mistakes and weaknesses exposed because they are having no quality spinners and their top batsmen are fail to handle quality spinners even today South African spinners done impressive performance which outclass them and Pakistani fast bowlers which were hyped as best in the world are also having nothing to produce anything positive from these flat tracks.

Hopefully they will take these defeats as lesson for the future because if they want to have better future in this game they have to do changes into their domestic setup which is under experiments for the long time, and we are fail to have anything good otherwise Pakistani cricket can also go into backlash like we have Sri Lanka and West Indies with nothing to be good for them.
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.
Today Pak lost, all hopes lost.
Don't worry, 2027 world cup Pak would better.

Really? Do you come from a future that you know that Pakistan will play better in 2027.

The way they are playing, who knows in coming years, we may not even qualify for the World Cup just like the Legends West Indies team. You need to be optimistic about your team if you see there is anything better coming up but right now I do not see any progress for the national team.

Baber Azam would not remain the captain of the Pakistan team after this World Cup. We need to see if we finish last in the points table or close to the last teams.
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.

Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.

Yes South Africa team is very strong in bowling line. It seems that South Africa team will win today's match. South Africa team now need 77 runs to win today's match. Scored 194 runs in 31 overs. So far South Africa team has lost 4 wickets.
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