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Quote from: Publictalk792 on October 27, 2023, 04:15:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 02:32:19 AM

I don't think that today's match will be competitive. Unfortunately for Pakistan, both the batsmen and bowlers are in great form for South Africa. Despite their pace-heavy bowling attack, South Africa has hardly given any room for their opponents to make runs. Kagiso Rabada, Gerald Coetzee and Marco Jansen are among the top-10 wicket takers so far, with 10 wickets apiece. The absence of Anrich Nortje is not being felt. And among the spinners, Keshav Maharaj have been quite economical and he has picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

Yes I also think that this match will not be competitive. Because Pakistan already lost 2 of their batsman. Which is making a pressure on Pakistan team. Babar Azam and Muhammad Rizwan is on the pitch at this time and made 45 runs total in 8 overs. Babar Azam is at 11 runs and Muhammad Rizwan made 6 runs. Both are good batsman if they will remain on pitch then we can say that the match will be competitive.

Babar Azam just lost his wicket. When Babar Azam was out , the bowl was LBW and Umpire didn’t give them out but the all players of South Africa’s team had a doubt that they took a review and then the output was not in the favor of Pakistan.

Babar Azam also doesn’t expect that is this out. Tabraiz Shamsi is a dangerous spinner for Pakistan’s batsman because he out Babar Azam and Iftikhar Ahmed and these two are the main batsmen of Pakistan but unfortunately, they both lost their wickets. Shadab Khan and Saud Shakeel were going nervous after the wicket of Babar Azam.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 05:19:21 AM

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You are probably right. Pakistan elected to bat after winning the toss. I thought maybe Pakistan's top order would bat responsibly today. But even in today's match Pakistan batsmen could not start well. Pakistan team lost 2 wickets for 38 runs and third wicket for 86 runs. Pakistan team is not playing well. Babar Azam and Iftikhar are batting now. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan collected 102 runs with the loss of 3 wickets. Pakistan's run rate is good enough but their top order is not playing well. 300 will be much more difficult for Pakistan now. I don't think it is possible for South Africa team to win if they target below 300. Because South African batsmen are in very good form now. They have batted well in every match. Pakistan is likely to lose in today's match as well.

Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

In this world cup South African are completely different side with having impressive work against few teams which can create problems for the like England and Australia and currently Pakistan is also having serious trouble against them for having any good target which is looking not possible after this start. Jansen and Shamsi doing good job and Pakistan's problems are not allowing them to have anything positive from this world cup as with this performance look like today they will be face four lost in a row which could be another setback for them and their no 1 spot in ICC ranking.
Right now as they are losing matches I have feeling after this world cup many things are going to happen with on and off the field issues are waiting for them back at home and too many changes are also going to happen as well because all is not good well right now.

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Quote from: MusaPk on October 27, 2023, 05:27:32 AM

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Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

Pakistan team throughout the tournament failed to attack the opponent and this is exactly happening in today's game also. After 25 overs Pakistan going with 5 run per over. With this scoring rate Pakistan will only be able to give a target of 270 or 300 maximum. Seeing the bowling form of Pakistani bowlers 300 won't be a safe target. Pakistan already lost 4 wickets and there chances of scoring 300 are now very slim.

At the moment, Pakistan has collected 134 runs in 26 overs with the loss of 4 wickets. Pakistan must win the next four matches including today's match to qualify for the semi-finals. It is doubtful whether Pakistan will win against South Africa today. If Pakistan loses today against South Africa then Pakistan's dreams of the next round will be shattered. They are under a lot of pressure now with Pakistan losing four wickets. I think it will not be possible for them to overcome this pressure and score 300 runs. Pakistan will not be able to win today's match if South Africa cannot throw a big target of 350+ runs. Do you think Pakistan can beat South Africa and win today?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 05:19:21 AM

Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

Pakistan team throughout the tournament failed to attack the opponent and this is exactly happening in today's game also. After 25 overs Pakistan going with 5 run per over. With this scoring rate Pakistan will only be able to give a target of 270 or 300 maximum. Seeing the bowling form of Pakistani bowlers 300 won't be a safe target. Pakistan already lost 4 wickets and there chances of scoring 300 are now very slim.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 27, 2023, 05:06:44 AM

You are probably right. Pakistan elected to bat after winning the toss. I thought maybe Pakistan's top order would bat responsibly today. But even in today's match Pakistan batsmen could not start well. Pakistan team lost 2 wickets for 38 runs and third wicket for 86 runs. Pakistan team is not playing well. Babar Azam and Iftikhar are batting now. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan collected 102 runs with the loss of 3 wickets. Pakistan's run rate is good enough but their top order is not playing well. 300 will be much more difficult for Pakistan now. I don't think it is possible for South Africa team to win if they target below 300. Because South African batsmen are in very good form now. They have batted well in every match. Pakistan is likely to lose in today's match as well.

Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 02:32:19 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 27, 2023, 01:25:51 AM

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.

I don't think that today's match will be competitive. Unfortunately for Pakistan, both the batsmen and bowlers are in great form for South Africa. Despite their pace-heavy bowling attack, South Africa has hardly given any room for their opponents to make runs. Kagiso Rabada, Gerald Coetzee and Marco Jansen are among the top-10 wicket takers so far, with 10 wickets apiece. The absence of Anrich Nortje is not being felt. And among the spinners, Keshav Maharaj have been quite economical and he has picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

You are probably right. Pakistan elected to bat after winning the toss. I thought maybe Pakistan's top order would bat responsibly today. But even in today's match Pakistan batsmen could not start well. Pakistan team lost 2 wickets for 38 runs and third wicket for 86 runs. Pakistan team is not playing well. Babar Azam and Iftikhar are batting now. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan collected 102 runs with the loss of 3 wickets. Pakistan's run rate is good enough but their top order is not playing well. 300 will be much more difficult for Pakistan now. I don't think it is possible for South Africa team to win if they target below 300. Because South African batsmen are in very good form now. They have batted well in every match. Pakistan is likely to lose in today's match as well.

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Quote from: Publictalk792 on October 27, 2023, 04:15:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 02:32:19 AM

I don't think that today's match will be competitive. Unfortunately for Pakistan, both the batsmen and bowlers are in great form for South Africa. Despite their pace-heavy bowling attack, South Africa has hardly given any room for their opponents to make runs. Kagiso Rabada, Gerald Coetzee and Marco Jansen are among the top-10 wicket takers so far, with 10 wickets apiece. The absence of Anrich Nortje is not being felt. And among the spinners, Keshav Maharaj have been quite economical and he has picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

Yes I also think that this match will not be competitive. Because Pakistan already lost 2 of their batsman. Which is making a pressure on Pakistan team. Babar Azam and Muhammad Rizwan is on the pitch at this time and made 45 runs total in 8 overs. Babar Azam is at 11 runs and Muhammad Rizwan made 6 runs. Both are good batsman if they will remain on pitch then we can say that the match will be competitive.

Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam duo used to be the safeguard for the Pakistan team. In every match this pair used to perform well, the mistake from them is losing wickets when the team requires their support. Moreover in most matches soon after the loss of the top order wickets remaining players never perform to the expected level and this ends up losing. This is what happened with India and in today's match Pakistan lost early Wicket and once again Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan have begun to develop good partnership. Pakistan team is in a must win situation and losing in today's match will end their hope of moving towards the semifinals gets narrowed as they've lost three matches in the last five matches played.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2023, 02:32:19 AM

I don't think that today's match will be competitive. Unfortunately for Pakistan, both the batsmen and bowlers are in great form for South Africa. Despite their pace-heavy bowling attack, South Africa has hardly given any room for their opponents to make runs. Kagiso Rabada, Gerald Coetzee and Marco Jansen are among the top-10 wicket takers so far, with 10 wickets apiece. The absence of Anrich Nortje is not being felt. And among the spinners, Keshav Maharaj have been quite economical and he has picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

Yes I also think that this match will not be competitive. Because Pakistan already lost 2 of their batsman. Which is making a pressure on Pakistan team. Babar Azam and Muhammad Rizwan is on the pitch at this time and made 45 runs total in 8 overs. Babar Azam is at 11 runs and Muhammad Rizwan made 6 runs. Both are good batsman if they will remain on pitch then we can say that the match will be competitive.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 27, 2023, 01:25:51 AM

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.

I don't think that today's match will be competitive. Unfortunately for Pakistan, both the batsmen and bowlers are in great form for South Africa. Despite their pace-heavy bowling attack, South Africa has hardly given any room for their opponents to make runs. Kagiso Rabada, Gerald Coetzee and Marco Jansen are among the top-10 wicket takers so far, with 10 wickets apiece. The absence of Anrich Nortje is not being felt. And among the spinners, Keshav Maharaj have been quite economical and he has picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2023, 09:48:02 PM

That may be due to the lack of preparations. England warmed up for the world cup with an ODI series against Ireland back home. And one of their world cup warmup matches got washed out. On the other hand, Australia prepared really well and managed an ODI series against India just before the world cup. And the results are out there for everyone to see. Australian batsmen are handling the spinners quite well, and the England batsman are struggling against the spinners. And now the remaining matches doesn't matter because they are already out of contention for the semi-finals.

If England continues performance like that in ODI then they are very likely to find there way as they were in late 90s and early 2000s. They have won only one match so far and that's the reason they are out of this world cup. England before the world cup had won an ODI series against NZ 3-1 and it was expected that they will perform well in this WC.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on October 27, 2023, 12:48:46 AM

In the 26th match of the World Cup, the two biggest teams of the tournament will meet in Chennai today. South Africa managed to secure their position by playing the first five matches but Pakistan could not secure their position at all. South Africa is number two in the points table with four wins after playing five matches and Pakistan is number six in the points table with only two wins after playing the same number of matches. It will be a tough fight between the two teams today.

After back-to-back defeats, Pakistan will definitely want to bounce back in today's match. If Pakistan can't come back in this match today, they will be far away from the semi-final and if South Africa wins this match today, they will have a big chance of making the semi-final.

Between Pakistan and South Africa, the team that wins the toss is guaranteed to bat first as it is safe to bat first on the Chennai wicket.

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.

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South Africa vs Pakistan
The 26th match of the World Cup is South Africa vs Pakistan. South Africa has been performing brilliantly since the beginning of this World Cup. So far South Africa have played 5 matches and won 4 matches, unfortunately lost 1 match against Netherlands. South Africa is at number 2 in the points table. South Africa have played total 5 matches of the World Cup, analyzing the matches shows that they scored 350+ runs in 3 matches and scored 300+ runs in 1 match. If South Africa get a chance to bat first today, they will be able to score a lot of runs. On the other hand if we look at Pakistan Pakistan has won 2 out of 5 matches so far. Pakistan is 6th in the points table. Pakistan is not in good form at present. According to current statistics, South Africa's batting and bowling lines are stronger than Pakistan's. I think South Africa have more chances to win today's match.

Pakistan vs South Africa Match Today this match is very important for Pakistan. If Pakistan can win this match today, they will take another step towards the semi-finals. So Pakistan team should play today's match with good batting and bowling. If Pakistan go to toss, if they have to bat first, then Pakistan must keep in mind that they have to score above 300. Otherwise, they will not be able to bail out Pakistan with South Africa under three hundred runs. And if they get a chance to field first, Pakistan must try their best to restrict South Africa to 270 runs. If South Africa cannot be restricted to 270 runs then Pakistan cannot win this match today. Because we have seen the previous matches of South Africa they have scored more than 350 runs in every match. So Pakistan will have to try to restrict them to 270 runs. If Pakistan play against South Africa the way they played against Afghanistan, they will surely lose today's match. Pakistan should turn around against South Africa and if they win today's match, their confidence will increase.

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In the 26th match of the World Cup, the two biggest teams of the tournament will meet in Chennai today. South Africa managed to secure their position by playing the first five matches but Pakistan could not secure their position at all. South Africa is number two in the points table with four wins after playing five matches and Pakistan is number six in the points table with only two wins after playing the same number of matches. It will be a tough fight between the two teams today.

After back-to-back defeats, Pakistan will definitely want to bounce back in today's match. If Pakistan can't come back in this match today, they will be far away from the semi-final and if South Africa wins this match today, they will have a big chance of making the semi-final.

Between Pakistan and South Africa, the team that wins the toss is guaranteed to bat first as it is safe to bat first on the Chennai wicket.

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I wouldn't say England's lack of quality spinners is the only problem. England's main problem is their poor batting. None of the batsmen in the squad is in good form. Every batsman's performance is good. As every pitch is quite batting friendly. So if the batsmen do not perform well on such a pitch, it is impossible to get a good result. We have seen England's poor batting in every match except the match against Bangladesh. And England have no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals after a humiliating defeat against Sri Lanka. England is the most unsuccessful team in this World Cup.

That may be due to the lack of preparations. England warmed up for the world cup with an ODI series against Ireland back home. And one of their world cup warmup matches got washed out. On the other hand, Australia prepared really well and managed an ODI series against India just before the world cup. And the results are out there for everyone to see. Australian batsmen are handling the spinners quite well, and the England batsman are struggling against the spinners. And now the remaining matches doesn't matter because they are already out of contention for the semi-finals.

Before playing against Ireland, England played against New Zealand. Although they lost the first match in this series by a big margin, they won the last three matches by a big margin. England won the series 4-1. The England team was in very good form against Ireland in the next series. But they lost the truck in the World Cup. Their performance from the first match is very poor. They can't adapt themselves well on the Indian pitch. Especially the bad performance of the batsmen is the reason for England's poor condition. Had the batsmen been in form, their situation would not have been so bad. There is no batsman in the squad now who is capable of batting responsibly.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on October 26, 2023, 09:40:57 PM

I wouldn't say England's lack of quality spinners is the only problem. England's main problem is their poor batting. None of the batsmen in the squad is in good form. Every batsman's performance is good. As every pitch is quite batting friendly. So if the batsmen do not perform well on such a pitch, it is impossible to get a good result. We have seen England's poor batting in every match except the match against Bangladesh. And England have no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals after a humiliating defeat against Sri Lanka. England is the most unsuccessful team in this World Cup.

Updated points table as Sri Lanka surpasses to secure No. 5 position. Englanf slipped to No. 8. Look away if you are an England Cricket team fan. I think defending champions England world cup compagin is Over. Lahiru kumara bagged man of the match for his 3/35. Angela Mathews made a comeback for Sri Lanka Nissanka top scored with 77*. English won 1 match out of 5 world cup matches. While they're still not mathematically out of semi-final contention, England's World Cup is all but over. Sri Lanka vs England in last 5 World Cups Srilinka won all of 5 matches. Matthew Mott England's coach says it's hard to explain England's drop off and says it has been a sub-par effort from the side at the World Cup

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South Africa vs Pakistan
The 26th match of the World Cup is South Africa vs Pakistan. South Africa has been performing brilliantly since the beginning of this World Cup. So far South Africa have played 5 matches and won 4 matches, unfortunately lost 1 match against Netherlands. South Africa is at number 2 in the points table. South Africa have played total 5 matches of the World Cup, analyzing the matches shows that they scored 350+ runs in 3 matches and scored 300+ runs in 1 match. If South Africa get a chance to bat first today, they will be able to score a lot of runs. On the other hand if we look at Pakistan Pakistan has won 2 out of 5 matches so far. Pakistan is 6th in the points table. Pakistan is not in good form at present. According to current statistics, South Africa's batting and bowling lines are stronger than Pakistan's. I think South Africa have more chances to win today's match.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on October 26, 2023, 09:40:57 PM

I wouldn't say England's lack of quality spinners is the only problem. England's main problem is their poor batting. None of the batsmen in the squad is in good form. Every batsman's performance is good. As every pitch is quite batting friendly. So if the batsmen do not perform well on such a pitch, it is impossible to get a good result. We have seen England's poor batting in every match except the match against Bangladesh. And England have no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals after a humiliating defeat against Sri Lanka. England is the most unsuccessful team in this World Cup.

That may be due to the lack of preparations. England warmed up for the world cup with an ODI series against Ireland back home. And one of their world cup warmup matches got washed out. On the other hand, Australia prepared really well and managed an ODI series against India just before the world cup. And the results are out there for everyone to see. Australian batsmen are handling the spinners quite well, and the England batsman are struggling against the spinners. And now the remaining matches doesn't matter because they are already out of contention for the semi-finals.

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Can anyone ask England what the hell they are doing in this tournament? I can't imagine the last champion doing the worst performance this time. This is a very shameful point for them to lose the match from Sri Lanka, there is no comparison of England with Sri Lanka but they only made 156 runs in 33 overs and Sri Lanka finished the match in just 26 overs. England needs to reconstruct itself and get out of the useless players. They will be the first ones who will get out of the tournament. Their openers, and middle order all are useless they need quick players, far from the start of this tourney I was very excited about who would come as the opponent next in the final to the England team but unfortunately they failed and I feel very bad for them

There is not much England can do, as some of their players are not yet fully recovered from injuries. Jofra Archer has been out of action for more than a year now. Mark Wood picked up an injury during the IPL and his form went down ever since that. Joe Root and Sam Curran are simply not in good form, although they are free from injury. Ben Stokes has picked up a hip injury apparently. And then they have this long standing problem of having no quality spinners in their squad. While playing in SENA conditions, they could still manage to put up a decent performance. But in India, under hostile conditions it was not possible.

I wouldn't say England's lack of quality spinners is the only problem. England's main problem is their poor batting. None of the batsmen in the squad is in good form. Every batsman's performance is good. As every pitch is quite batting friendly. So if the batsmen do not perform well on such a pitch, it is impossible to get a good result. We have seen England's poor batting in every match except the match against Bangladesh. And England have no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals after a humiliating defeat against Sri Lanka. England is the most unsuccessful team in this World Cup.

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Today Pakistan and South Africa will face each other. Pakistan performance is also not good in this World cup and today Pakistan will face to one of the top 4 teams which is South Africa. If South Africa will play the first turn so they can again go above 300+ runs and this will be a difficult target for Pakistan to chase.

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Quote from: JunaidAzizi on October 26, 2023, 04:06:16 PM

Can anyone ask England what the hell they are doing in this tournament? I can't imagine the last champion doing the worst performance this time. This is a very shameful point for them to lose the match from Sri Lanka, there is no comparison of England with Sri Lanka but they only made 156 runs in 33 overs and Sri Lanka finished the match in just 26 overs. England needs to reconstruct itself and get out of the useless players. They will be the first ones who will get out of the tournament. Their openers, and middle order all are useless they need quick players, far from the start of this tourney I was very excited about who would come as the opponent next in the final to the England team but unfortunately they failed and I feel very bad for them

There is not much England can do, as some of their players are not yet fully recovered from injuries. Jofra Archer has been out of action for more than a year now. Mark Wood picked up an injury during the IPL and his form went down ever since that. Joe Root and Sam Curran are simply not in good form, although they are free from injury. Ben Stokes has picked up a hip injury apparently. And then they have this long standing problem of having no quality spinners in their squad. While playing in SENA conditions, they could still manage to put up a decent performance. But in India, under hostile conditions it was not possible.

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