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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 04, 2023, 11:07:06 AM

Less than 4 weeks to go for the start of Asia Cup. The first match (between Pakistan and Nepal) will be played on 30th August (Multan Cricket Stadium), and this will be one of the four matches to be played in Pakistan (and the only home match for them). Three days later, Pakistan will travel to Sri Lanka and face India at the Pallekele International Cricket Stadium. The last match of Group A will be played between India and Nepal on 4th September at the same venue. The fact that two countries will be hosting the tournament adds a lot of complexity this time.

Its good that we are having Asia cup finally. Since BCCI is one of the biggest board, its very hard for small board like PCB to fight with them. Its a win-win situation for BCCI that hey are not going to Pakistan for Asia cup and also hosting Pakistan in India. PCB former chairmen took stance on that but you cant expect anything sane from a journalist like Sethi. Who became PCB head only for his services for ruling party PML-N.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 04, 2023, 11:07:06 AM

Less than 4 weeks to go for the start of Asia Cup. The first match (between Pakistan and Nepal) will be played on 30th August (Multan Cricket Stadium), and this will be one of the four matches to be played in Pakistan (and the only home match for them). Three days later, Pakistan will travel to Sri Lanka and face India at the Pallekele International Cricket Stadium. The last match of Group A will be played between India and Nepal on 4th September at the same venue. The fact that two countries will be hosting the tournament adds a lot of complexity this time.

Even I agreed about this but mostly Asian sports and fans are not familiar with this all just because of this we feel complexity about this in European leagues and few times big events this all is regular just because of this we never feel any problem about these things there for me now it's time for us to have things like these because with these things can go in positive way even this all is not easy but if someone tries then most chances things can take good turn about this all.

Sports it surely needs to have something positive for bringing peoples near and ending tensions and many other conflicts which are currently creating problems for common peoples and countries as well in future we need Bangladesh and Nepal also try in this way and then Pakistan with Afghanistan can also go with this same way again in future.

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Less than 4 weeks to go for the start of Asia Cup. The first match (between Pakistan and Nepal) will be played on 30th August (Multan Cricket Stadium), and this will be one of the four matches to be played in Pakistan (and the only home match for them). Three days later, Pakistan will travel to Sri Lanka and face India at the Pallekele International Cricket Stadium. The last match of Group A will be played between India and Nepal on 4th September at the same venue. The fact that two countries will be hosting the tournament adds a lot of complexity this time.

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Quote from: synchronym on August 03, 2023, 01:41:48 PM

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Tamim Iqbal has made the decision to step down as Bangladesh ODI captain. Also, he won't be part in the upcoming Asia Cup 2023 due to a back injury. Since taking charge as the ODI captain in 2021, Tamim Iqbal has had a decent record. Liton Das may lead Bangladesh ODI team for the Asia Cup 2023.

I think It's a great decision, as this will allow him concentrate on his batting. There is also a possibility that he may comeback during the upcoming ODI home series vs New Zealand.

If Tamim Iqbal is not able to play in the upcoming World Cup then I think it will be a big bad news for cricket as we all know he is one of the top batsmen in Bangladesh so Bangladesh cricket will understand his shortcoming. Since Tamim Iqbal will not be able to play due to his back injury or he will not be in ODI captaincy we as cricket fans will surely wish him a speedy recovery so that we can enjoy his game sitting in the gallery or in front of the television in the upcoming World Cup.

In a press conference yesterday, Tamim stepped down from ODI cricket captaincy in the presence of BCB president. He blamed the injury issue for stepping down from the captaincy as his back injury is also a concern for his World Cup tournament. If he is not fully fit during the World Cup, he will miss the World Cup tournament. If Tamim Iqbal misses the World Cup tournament then it will be a big bad news for Bangladesh cricket as he is one of the most reliable and successful opening batsman in Bangladesh cricket. The team relies a lot on his performance in ODI cricket so his absence could be a worry for the management. The ODI cricket captain is yet to be announced by BCB, if Shakib Al Hasan is offered the captaincy till the World Cup, Shakib Al Hasan will not accept the offer directly as he will not take charge of the team except for a long term.

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 03, 2023, 04:59:52 PM

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 03, 2023, 08:28:22 AM

I actually wanted to see Shardul Thakur get five wickets in the last match. But the performance was good from him anyway. He got four wickets. I think probably the only disappointing thing for India was to actually lose the second match of this series.

Tbh, I fail to understand how Thakur ends up picking wickets when there is some sort of partnership going on. When everyone fails he comes with his golden arm and breaks a partnership.

Surprising because he's not a very skilled bowler or has any pace but according to his teammates he does have immense confidence in his limited abilities and is a proper workhorse in challenging situations.

Lord for a reason. Tongue

Well, it is good for him and also India, I believe. I had seen statistics that he is the best wicket taker for India since a certain year. I don’t remember exactly which year. But certainly he is improving and it is obviously good for India.

It was actually really funny when you said

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Surprising because he's not a very skilled bowler or has any pace but according to his teammates he does have immense confidence in his limited abilities and is a proper workhorse in challenging situations.

- I know a lot of people are controlling, but I genuinely think that he is actually improving.

The coms were saying that in ODI he's the leading wicket taker for India, since the last ODI wc. Maybe because not many bowlers like Shami, Bumrah etc are playing regularly.

His domestic stats do suggest that he's an average cricketer at best but in international it's completely opposite, which is pleasing and surprising at the same time. A big plus is his batting down the order.

Not sure wdym by "I know a lot of people are controlling".

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 03, 2023, 12:24:17 PM

Liton Das may lead Bangladesh ODI team for the Asia Cup 2023.

I do not know about the decision of Liton Das being the captain of Bangladesh. I certainly think that he does not have enough experience to be the captain. But what I have seen so far from him being the vice captain of Bangladesh, he has really good awareness. He displays a profound understanding of the on-field dynamics and exhibits swift decision-making capabilities.

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Tamim Iqbal has made the decision to step down as Bangladesh ODI captain. Also, he won't be part in the upcoming Asia Cup 2023 due to a back injury. Since taking charge as the ODI captain in 2021, Tamim Iqbal has had a decent record.

Tamim Iqbal should retire at this point. I know he has done a lot of good things. He has also achieved a lot of things that many other Bangladeshi players were not able to. But he is old at this point, and he is also not in good form anymore. The best course of action for Bangladesh would be his retirement, as it would urge them to explore alternative opening batsmen who possess greater potential and skill.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 03, 2023, 10:36:04 AM

Quote from: Tony116 on August 03, 2023, 08:28:22 AM

I actually wanted to see Shardul Thakur get five wickets in the last match. But the performance was good from him anyway. He got four wickets. I think probably the only disappointing thing for India was to actually lose the second match of this series.

Tbh, I fail to understand how Thakur ends up picking wickets when there is some sort of partnership going on. When everyone fails he comes with his golden arm and breaks a partnership.

Surprising because he's not a very skilled bowler or has any pace but according to his teammates he does have immense confidence in his limited abilities and is a proper workhorse in challenging situations.

Lord for a reason. Tongue

Well, it is good for him and also India, I believe. I had seen statistics that he is the best wicket taker for India since a certain year. I don’t remember exactly which year. But certainly he is improving and it is obviously good for India.

It was actually really funny when you said

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Surprising because he's not a very skilled bowler or has any pace but according to his teammates he does have immense confidence in his limited abilities and is a proper workhorse in challenging situations.

- I know a lot of people are controlling, but I genuinely think that he is actually improving.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 03, 2023, 12:53:25 PM

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I doubt if Rishab will make a comeback anytime soon, his recovery will take a minimum of 6-8 months and then there is a match fitness issue. Forget about the ODI wc (Oct 2023), atm Indian management is not even considering him for the test series against SA and England, which is scheduled around Dec 2023-Jan 2024 and Jan-Mar 2024.

Regarding his consistency.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2023, 10:06:56 AM

Sky's average is 24 after playing 26 matches and Sanju's 55 after featuring in 13 matches.

OK.. so Pant is not going to be fit anytime soon. Samson's average is boosted by the fact that he remained not out on 5 out of 12 occasions when he got to bat. He has scored a total of 390 runs from 13 ODI matches (and his best average is against Zimbabwe). For Suryakumar Yadav, the average is impacted by the fact that he scored 0 runs in three matches against Australia. He has decent average against teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa. Also, SKY played a majority of his ODI matches in SENA conditions (6 in West Indies).

Well, that's how average works in general. Most of the time Sanju goes not out because he bats in the lower middle order.

But anyway look at Sky's recent numbers, if we leave out his first 6-7 innings then it does say something about his consistency in ODI.

Samson : 46, 12, 54, 6*, (Zim: DNB, 43*, 15), 83*, 30*, 2*, 36, 9, 51

SKY: 31* 53, 40, 39, 34, 64, 6, DNB, 27, 16, 13, 9, 8, 4, 34*, 6, 4, 31, DNB,14, 0, 0, 0, 19, 24, 35

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Quote from: synchronym on August 03, 2023, 01:41:48 PM

Quote from: onecall123 on August 03, 2023, 12:24:17 PM

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Tamim Iqbal has made the decision to step down as Bangladesh ODI captain. Also, he won't be part in the upcoming Asia Cup 2023 due to a back injury. Since taking charge as the ODI captain in 2021, Tamim Iqbal has had a decent record. Liton Das may lead Bangladesh ODI team for the Asia Cup 2023.

I think It's a great decision, as this will allow him concentrate on his batting. There is also a possibility that he may comeback during the upcoming ODI home series vs New Zealand.

If Tamim Iqbal is not able to play in the upcoming World Cup then I think it will be a big bad news for cricket as we all know he is one of the top batsmen in Bangladesh so Bangladesh cricket will understand his shortcoming. Since Tamim Iqbal will not be able to play due to his back injury or he will not be in ODI captaincy we as cricket fans will surely wish him a speedy recovery so that we can enjoy his game sitting in the gallery or in front of the television in the upcoming World Cup.

Tamim Iqbal's injury could put the Bangladesh cricket team in a lot of trouble. Because if he cannot play for Bangladesh as Team Captain then Bangladesh will be very weak. And it does not seem that a player like Shakib Al Hasan can take Bangladesh in a good position as Team Vice-Captain. Although Bangladesh has better players but no one can fully fill the void of Tamim Iqbal. So it remains to be seen how much Tamim Iqbal can overcome his injury before November. And how much he can do for Bangladesh

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 03, 2023, 12:24:17 PM

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Tamim Iqbal has made the decision to step down as Bangladesh ODI captain. Also, he won't be part in the upcoming Asia Cup 2023 due to a back injury. Since taking charge as the ODI captain in 2021, Tamim Iqbal has had a decent record. Liton Das may lead Bangladesh ODI team for the Asia Cup 2023.

I think It's a great decision, as this will allow him concentrate on his batting. There is also a possibility that he may comeback during the upcoming ODI home series vs New Zealand.

If Tamim Iqbal is not able to play in the upcoming World Cup then I think it will be a big bad news for cricket as we all know he is one of the top batsmen in Bangladesh so Bangladesh cricket will understand his shortcoming. Since Tamim Iqbal will not be able to play due to his back injury or he will not be in ODI captaincy we as cricket fans will surely wish him a speedy recovery so that we can enjoy his game sitting in the gallery or in front of the television in the upcoming World Cup.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2023, 12:49:11 PM

I doubt if Rishab will make a comeback anytime soon, his recovery will take a minimum of 6-8 months and then there is a match fitness issue. Forget about the ODI wc (Oct 2023), atm Indian management is not even considering him for the test series against SA and England, which is scheduled around Dec 2023-Jan 2024 and Jan-Mar 2024.

Regarding his consistency.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2023, 10:06:56 AM

Sky's average is 24 after playing 26 matches and Sanju's 55 after featuring in 13 matches.

OK.. so Pant is not going to be fit anytime soon. Samson's average is boosted by the fact that he remained not out on 5 out of 12 occasions when he got to bat. He has scored a total of 390 runs from 13 ODI matches (and his best average is against Zimbabwe). For Suryakumar Yadav, the average is impacted by the fact that he scored 0 runs in three matches against Australia. He has decent average against teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa. Also, SKY played a majority of his ODI matches in SENA conditions (6 in West Indies).

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Tamim Iqbal has made the decision to step down as Bangladesh ODI captain. Also, he won't be part in the upcoming Asia Cup 2023 due to a back injury. Since taking charge as the ODI captain in 2021, Tamim Iqbal has had a decent record. Liton Das may lead Bangladesh ODI team for the Asia Cup 2023.

I think It's a great decision, as this will allow him concentrate on his batting. There is also a possibility that he may comeback during the upcoming ODI home series vs New Zealand.

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 03, 2023, 08:28:22 AM

I actually wanted to see Shardul Thakur get five wickets in the last match. But the performance was good from him anyway. He got four wickets. I think probably the only disappointing thing for India was to actually lose the second match of this series.

Tbh, I fail to understand how Thakur ends up picking wickets when there is some sort of partnership going on. When everyone fails he comes with his golden arm and breaks a partnership.

Surprising because he's not a very skilled bowler or has any pace but according to his teammates he does have immense confidence in his limited abilities and is a proper workhorse in challenging situations.

Lord for a reason. Tongue

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I also thought Shubman Gill would be able to score a century. Because Shubman Gill was playing very carefully from the beginning of the innings. Ishan Kishan and Sanju Samson did not bat slow. They tried to score quick runs. And the strike rate of both was more than 100. Gill on the other hand was batting very slowly. But unfortunately, he could not score a century. He returned to the dressing room after collecting 85 runs off 92 balls. Hardik Pandya batted brilliantly. He was able to collect 70 runs in just 52 balls. With almost every batsman in the squad batting well, the team was able to deliver a huge target of 352. And Mukesh Kumar and Shardul Thakur bowled brilliantly. Shardul Thakur managed to take 4 wickets and Mukesh Kumar 3 wickets.

Most of the people thing the fact the Gill will score his century.But it was failed because of his loss of his patience at the run of 85.He should keep some patience at the 85 and easy century will become the asset for the Gill in this match.Ishan Kishan doesn't ready to wait to score the century,So he made the fast running machine.Ishan also take responsibility to score his 77 of 64 balls was good enough.Being the opening batsman he made his perfect run.Which help India to score 300 above at the last.The Gill also take responsibility to score the good run and made his 85 which is highest run of the team.Sanju samson also score his fastest fifty with 41 balls.So all the opening people take responsibility to score the run except Ruturaj.It was the disappointing for the team India.Hardik also made his 70 with 52 balls is impressive one.But Gill take the player of match award for his highest contribution.

No one was able to score a century for India. But the performance from the Indian players was very consistent in this match. Almost all of them contributed to the win in the final match. Gaikwad was the only one who actually missed out. But the performance from the Indian team in both batting and bowling was really good. I was most impressed with the performance of Hardik Pandya. He did really well to actually stay in the middle till the end and making sure that they get a very good total in the board.

I actually wanted to see Shardul Thakur get five wickets in the last match. But the performance was good from him anyway. He got four wickets. I think probably the only disappointing thing for India was to actually lose the second match of this series.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 02, 2023, 02:26:19 PM

India destroyed WI in the final ODI as expected after embarassing themselves in the last match. WI could have restricted India to a smaller total if they didn't drop easy catches at the beginning of the match.

Mukesh Kumar was phenomenal throughout this series though I never heard of him before this series. Let's see if WI can compete with India in the upcoming T-20 games.

West Indies had dropped catches, from the Indian team each and every player are prepared to give the best performance and they're very careful with their scoring. Never went for unnecessary shots, and few wickets happened due to impatience. If the score isn't good this too couldn't have happened. In all situation India team is prepared to reach a big score.

Mukesh Kumar and Shardul Thakur bowled well and the same helped India win the match by a large margin. West Indies being a team popular for T20 cricket will have better plans to win the T20 series.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 02, 2023, 02:11:14 PM

I also thought Shubman Gill would be able to score a century. Because Shubman Gill was playing very carefully from the beginning of the innings. Ishan Kishan and Sanju Samson did not bat slow. They tried to score quick runs. And the strike rate of both was more than 100. Gill on the other hand was batting very slowly. But unfortunately, he could not score a century. He returned to the dressing room after collecting 85 runs off 92 balls. Hardik Pandya batted brilliantly. He was able to collect 70 runs in just 52 balls. With almost every batsman in the squad batting well, the team was able to deliver a huge target of 352. And Mukesh Kumar and Shardul Thakur bowled brilliantly. Shardul Thakur managed to take 4 wickets and Mukesh Kumar 3 wickets.

Most of the people thing the fact the Gill will score his century.But it was failed because of his loss of his patience at the run of 85.He should keep some patience at the 85 and easy century will become the asset for the Gill in this match.Ishan Kishan doesn't ready to wait to score the century,So he made the fast running machine.Ishan also take responsibility to score his 77 of 64 balls was good enough.Being the opening batsman he made his perfect run.Which help India to score 300 above at the last.The Gill also take responsibility to score the good run and made his 85 which is highest run of the team.Sanju samson also score his fastest fifty with 41 balls.So all the opening people take responsibility to score the run except Ruturaj.It was the disappointing for the team India.Hardik also made his 70 with 52 balls is impressive one.But Gill take the player of match award for his highest contribution.

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This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

A significant victory! Third ODI win was a true example of teamwork, as every department contributing their part. In the third ODI, India achieved their highest total ever without any player scoring a century individually. This series win will surely give a boost for their upcoming tournaments. However, I am concerned about West Indies' performance. They are simply not up to par in terms of competitiveness and going through a tough phase, as they are winless fifth consecutive ODI series.

India's victory in the third ODI was quite likely before going into the field but we didn't think that India would win so quickly and by such a margin against the West Indies. Team India secured a big win by 200 runs with 15 overs in hand against West Indies. After losing the toss against West Indies, India came into bat where they were able to score 351 runs for 5 wickets in the allotted fifty overs, India scored 351 runs in the first innings and the target level for West Indies stood at 352 runs. Set to bat with a target of 352 runs, the West Indies lost wickets from the start and as a result, wickets fell at regular intervals, they managed to stay on the wicket for 35 overs and managed to score only 151 runs against India as India secured an easy 200-run victory. Shubman Gill was selected as Man of the Match and Ishan Kishan was selected as Man of the Series.

What a fantastic match played by India cricket team. India given target 352 Runs but west indies take only 151 runs. It is big victory for indian cricket team. India win by 200 runs. India played well in total series. Player of the series has been Ishan Kishan(India). And player of the match has been Subman Gill (India). I think after long time india Such a big win. But i think T20 match will be start from tomorrow then it will not be easy to win for india. I think that series will be highly contacted. That will not be easy in T20. We are waiting to see that contesting match.

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Team India set a huge target of 352. Today we don't see bad batting from Indian batsmen like last two matches. Every batsman in India batted very responsibly today. Every batsman in the squad except Raturaj Gaikwad batted well today. But no batsman can score a century today. Ishan Kishan had 77 runs, Shubman Gill had 85 runs and Hardik Pandya played an excellent innings of 70 runs off 52 balls. There is no possibility of the Indian team losing in this match. West Indies batting line-up is not very experienced right now. They will not be able to collect 352 runs against experienced Indian bowlers.

India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

I think their performance in the yesterday match was befitting of the reputation of the Indian team. India did not do well in the 2nd match they lost easily to West Indies. But the Indian team managed to completely turnaround from that situation. West Indies lost the match by 200 runs while India set a big target of 351 runs. They lost the ODI series as well. The top order of the West Indies team has completely collapsed. Out of 5 batsmen in the top order, only one batsman managed to score double-digit runs. It will be very difficult to beat a team like India with their poor batting. However, even if the West Indies team does not do well in ODI cricket, it will surely show something different in T20.

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India destroyed WI in the final ODI as expected after embarassing themselves in the last match. WI could have restricted India to a smaller total if they didn't drop easy catches at the beginning of the match.

Mukesh Kumar was phenomenal throughout this series though I never heard of him before this series. Let's see if WI can compete with India in the upcoming T-20 games.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 01, 2023, 01:47:48 PM

Big total for sure but i feel the Indian approach between 30-40-ish overs was kinda timid.
They were quite conservative with their shots, especially the set batter like Gill (It would be suicidal against big teams).

I lost my bet as Gill missed his century

. He was really playing in defensive mode after scoring 80 runs. Gudakesh Motie has given a maiden over for the conservative batting style of Gill. India had scored 351 runs in the 3rd ODI, surprisingly no batter managed to get a century. As expected, India has won the match by a huge margin.

I also thought Shubman Gill would be able to score a century. Because Shubman Gill was playing very carefully from the beginning of the innings. Ishan Kishan and Sanju Samson did not bat slow. They tried to score quick runs. And the strike rate of both was more than 100. Gill on the other hand was batting very slowly. But unfortunately, he could not score a century. He returned to the dressing room after collecting 85 runs off 92 balls. Hardik Pandya batted brilliantly. He was able to collect 70 runs in just 52 balls. With almost every batsman in the squad batting well, the team was able to deliver a huge target of 352. And Mukesh Kumar and Shardul Thakur bowled brilliantly. Shardul Thakur managed to take 4 wickets and Mukesh Kumar 3 wickets.

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