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Quote from: JSRAW on November 22, 2022, 01:16:30 AM

You can imagine how useless bilateral ODI is becoming nowadays. 2 top teams are playing but see those empty stands.

At some point, the cricket boards need to understand that useless bilateral series hardly help anyone (players or fans) so maybe they should start saying no to broadcasters once a while.

Warner and Head just hammering England bowling lineup. 218 in 35th over and still growing. Aus will surely finish around 350 and it wont be easy to chase 300+ on Melbourne. We saw England struggling to chase 138 in T20 WC final against Pakistan.

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You can imagine how useless bilateral ODI is becoming nowadays. 2 top teams are playing but see those empty stands.

At some point, the cricket boards need to understand that useless bilateral series hardly help anyone (players or fans) so maybe they should start saying no to broadcasters once a while.

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Fortunately no overs were lost as a result of rain (just 33 minutes of interruption). Both David Warner and Travis Head looks to be in excellent form, and they have handled both the paces and spinners quite well. For England, the absence of Mark Wood is impacting the bowing performance. Ben Stokes is also not playing, and that means that one all rounder position needs to be replaced with a batsman. With Steven Smith and Marnus Labuschagne to come, Australia will be quite disappointed if they end up with a total of less than 300 from this point.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 21, 2022, 11:47:13 PM

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3rd ODI match is England vs Australia. The big question is how well England can do in the last match of this ODI series today. In today's match, England won the toss and bowled. However, the England team is not able to benefit much in bowling. On the other hand, Australia's 2 openers are playing brilliantly. Australia team score, 94 for no wicket in 15.4 overs. Looking at the pattern of play, it seems that England team is likely to lose today's match as well. Still can't say what happens after that

Australia has already won the series, so the result from this match doesn't hold much significance. But it is good to see the Australian openers (Travis Head and David Warner) getting in to a three-digit opening partnership. The Australian selectors tried several combinations and even promoted Cameroon Green to the position of opener, but still nothing worked out. But today the openers scored runs, and that too quick enough. They looked confident as well. If they could perform like this, then the opening woes for Australia maybe history. And let's not forget the fact that Travis Head is still in his 20s.

Despite the lack of significance of this match, a win for England could avoid humiliating results in the three-match ODI series. In the last ODI of the series, Jos Buttler returns to lead the England team. David Warner and Travis Head made a solid opening partnership for Australia. Their confidence allows them to put up a large total on the board. However, due to rain, the match has been postponed. It would be great if play could be resumed quickly.

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3rd ODI match is England vs Australia. The big question is how well England can do in the last match of this ODI series today. In today's match, England won the toss and bowled. However, the England team is not able to benefit much in bowling. On the other hand, Australia's 2 openers are playing brilliantly. Australia team score, 94 for no wicket in 15.4 overs. Looking at the pattern of play, it seems that England team is likely to lose today's match as well. Still can't say what happens after that

Australia has already won the series, so the result from this match doesn't hold much significance. But it is good to see the Australian openers (Travis Head and David Warner) getting in to a three-digit opening partnership. The Australian selectors tried several combinations and even promoted Cameroon Green to the position of opener, but still nothing worked out. But today the openers scored runs, and that too quick enough. They looked confident as well. If they could perform like this, then the opening woes for Australia maybe history. And let's not forget the fact that Travis Head is still in his 20s.

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Australia vs England 3rd ODI match has started. England won the toss and decided to bowl first. Now batting Australia have scored 89 runs in their 15 overs and they are yet to lose a wicket. If you play like this, Australia can score 230 runs in this match. However, Australia's batting is not playing well, and Australia is not able to score runs. In this match, England is playing very well.

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Australia V England

The third and final ODI match between Australia and England will take place shortly after. Australia won the first two matches quite easily. And in the first two matches we saw England batting badly. If England's batsmen can't bat well in today's match then I don't see any chance of them winning. Because the Australian players are very confident today after performing well in the first two matches. If England wants to win, they will have to perform well.

It would be a shame for England to lose all the matches in this series against Australia. So today the players of England will try their best to win. But the players are not in good form, it is very difficult for them to win.

Australia has already won the series and hopefully would end up winning the last ODI too. Pathetic performance by the English squad. I cannot believe few days back they won the T20WC. At the end of 13th over Australia has already scored 81 runs and have not lost a single wicket. The CRR is more than 6 at the moment and if they are able to maintain it till the end of 50 overs then Australia will easily set a target of more than 300 runs which I presume would not be easy for the English batters to chase.

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Quote from: Ayers on November 21, 2022, 01:39:33 PM

I think that the USA did pretty well for a team that is not that interested in cricket. I did not think that Namibia was going to be an easy opponent for them. But they performed really well against Namibia. They should be proud of this type of performance. As a matter of fact, they do have a lot of foreign players on their team. So that is the reason why they probably are not proud of their performance in cricket. Suppose there are no foreign players on the USA team, and they are only playing with native players. This victory would have been greatly lauded by the USA.

Normally teams such as UAE and Oman recruit first class players from India and Pakistan for their teams. But USA went up one step further. They are recruiting former international players such as Rusty Theron and Adam Sanford. It is detrimental to the growth of cricket on multiple fronts. Teams such as PNG, Namibia and Nepal who are playing with native players are on receiving end. And it does nothing to make cricket more popular in the United States. The natives doesn't even know that there is a "national" team for the US.

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Australia V England

The third and final ODI match between Australia and England will take place shortly after. Australia won the first two matches quite easily. And in the first two matches we saw England batting badly. If England's batsmen can't bat well in today's match then I don't see any chance of them winning. Because the Australian players are very confident today after performing well in the first two matches. If England wants to win, they will have to perform well.

It would be a shame for England to lose all the matches in this series against Australia. So today the players of England will try their best to win. But the players are not in good form, it is very difficult for them to win.

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Quote from: Ayers on November 21, 2022, 01:39:33 PM

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USA was not very interested in cricket. Still they are playing pretty well. The USA players played very well against Namibia today. USA set a target of 245 in 50 overs. Every batsman in the team has shown good batting today. The Namibia team is not very strong. And so it was very difficult for them to win by batting at a target of 245 runs. And Namibia's innings ended on just 173 runs.
Smaller teams like Ireland, Netherlands, USA and UAE are playing quite well now. Cricket is gradually becoming popular worldwide. If these small teams get enough opportunities, they will challenge the big teams in the future.

I think that the USA did pretty well for a team that is not that interested in cricket. I did not think that Namibia was going to be an easy opponent for them. But they performed really well against Namibia. They should be proud of this type of performance. As a matter of fact, they do have a lot of foreign players on their team. So that is the reason why they probably are not proud of their performance in cricket. Suppose there are no foreign players on the USA team, and they are only playing with native players. This victory would have been greatly lauded by the USA.

Slowly USA is trying to have their participation into cricket. As said the native players count too a big reason why this isn't celebrated. Almost 8 players of foreign origin with just three native players. It shows that the American people are not much attracted towards cricket. Maybe this could change over the years as cricket for women too getting good support.

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England is having difficulty in playing and performing in ODI matches although they have won world cup recently. These are entirely different formats of cricket one is elaborate and detailed and other one is short and unpredictable mostly weak teams perform well than strong teams because they perform at that moment and day so same is happening with England.
Australia on other hand didn't make it to semi-final previously now look at their performances.

This can happen to every team because recently they are not involved in ODI's as mostly playing T20i so now suddenly change of format with not top player involved is surely not suitable with right now England is ODI and T20i both World Cup's holder and can do better in coming days because now they have very strong domestic set up in both formats and their youths are doing good work for this all.
Their last ODI defeats are normal business as this can happen to any team while they won T20i World Cup just few days back and now having this useless series before going to Pakistan for playing their first test series in many years.

I wouldn’t say that this is useless.
This is obviously useful for England because now they know in which area they have some weaknesses.
And they will be able to use that in the next ODI series that they play.

But after this, obviously, they will have to concentrate on test cricket. Because you know, they are going to Pakistan and I don’t think it is going to be easy in Pakistan.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on November 20, 2022, 02:57:25 PM

USA was not very interested in cricket. Still they are playing pretty well. The USA players played very well against Namibia today. USA set a target of 245 in 50 overs. Every batsman in the team has shown good batting today. The Namibia team is not very strong. And so it was very difficult for them to win by batting at a target of 245 runs. And Namibia's innings ended on just 173 runs.
Smaller teams like Ireland, Netherlands, USA and UAE are playing quite well now. Cricket is gradually becoming popular worldwide. If these small teams get enough opportunities, they will challenge the big teams in the future.

I think that the USA did pretty well for a team that is not that interested in cricket. I did not think that Namibia was going to be an easy opponent for them. But they performed really well against Namibia. They should be proud of this type of performance. As a matter of fact, they do have a lot of foreign players on their team. So that is the reason why they probably are not proud of their performance in cricket. Suppose there are no foreign players on the USA team, and they are only playing with native players. This victory would have been greatly lauded by the USA.

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England is having difficulty in playing and performing in ODI matches although they have won world cup recently. These are entirely different formats of cricket one is elaborate and detailed and other one is short and unpredictable mostly weak teams perform well than strong teams because they perform at that moment and day so same is happening with England.
Australia on other hand didn't make it to semi-final previously now look at their performances.

This can happen to every team because recently they are not involved in ODI's as mostly playing T20i so now suddenly change of format with not top player involved is surely not suitable with right now England is ODI and T20i both World Cup's holder and can do better in coming days because now they have very strong domestic set up in both formats and their youths are doing good work for this all.

Their last ODI defeats are normal business as this can happen to any team while they won T20i World Cup just few days back and now having this useless series before going to Pakistan for playing their first test series in many years.

Let's just appreciate this that teams are now following all formats of cricket because as far as I remember recently teams are just sticking to T20 format either its tours or IPL or PSL all have 20 overs .

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Quote from: Naficopa on November 20, 2022, 12:13:52 PM

England is having difficulty in playing and performing in ODI matches although they have won world cup recently. These are entirely different formats of cricket one is elaborate and detailed and other one is short and unpredictable mostly weak teams perform well than strong teams because they perform at that moment and day so same is happening with England.
Australia on other hand didn't make it to semi-final previously now look at their performances.

This can happen to every team because recently they are not involved in ODI's as mostly playing T20i so now suddenly change of format with not top player involved is surely not suitable with right now England is ODI and T20i both World Cup's holder and can do better in coming days because now they have very strong domestic set up in both formats and their youths are doing good work for this all.

Their last ODI defeats are normal business as this can happen to any team while they won T20i World Cup just few days back and now having this useless series before going to Pakistan for playing their first test series in many years.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 20, 2022, 11:19:33 AM

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England won T20 World Cup this year but their poor performance of ODI match against Australia is really worrying. Australia have won the first two of the 3-match ODI series with a large distance. And it is expected that there will be a big win in the third match as well. But the victory in the third match make England White Wash. Australia has been performing well since the beginning after the T20 world cup towards the upcoming ODI World Cup.

England is the champion in T20 World Cup but their performance in the ODI format is very poor. The squad that originally played in the T20 World Cup, is missing most of its players for the ODI series. At the same time, the performance of their players is now completely erratic. Players like Moeen Ali, Sam Curran and Woakes are not playing well. The performance of England's players is poor both in batting and bowling. England's players have to play with more responsibility in the last match. Especially the batsmen have to play well. England lost the last two matches due to bad batting.

england has won the world cup and that is how they show their skills.
Moeen ALi played well in final it was Pakistan hard luck that they lost the final T20 match. Now England team is performing like a very normal team.

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USA was not very interested in cricket. Still they are playing pretty well. The USA players played very well against Namibia today. USA set a target of 245 in 50 overs. Every batsman in the team has shown good batting today. The Namibia team is not very strong. And so it was very difficult for them to win by batting at a target of 245 runs. And Namibia's innings ended on just 173 runs.
Smaller teams like Ireland, Netherlands, USA and UAE are playing quite well now. Cricket is gradually becoming popular worldwide. If these small teams get enough opportunities, they will challenge the big teams in the future.

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England won T20 World Cup this year but their poor performance of ODI match against Australia is really worrying. Australia have won the first two of the 3-match ODI series with a large distance. And it is expected that there will be a big win in the third match as well. But the victory in the third match make England White Wash. Australia has been performing well since the beginning after the T20 world cup towards the upcoming ODI World Cup.

Although England won the T20, they did not overcome a big target and win the match. It is true that they bowled well that day and Pakistan did not played very well that day. And Pakistan gave them a target of just 137 runs. They were in confusion to meet this target. But finally they saw the face of victory after getting only one over Hughes run, otherwise they would have lost with Pakistan in T20 too.

A team may be good in T20 format but not in other formats. As it happens England are the world champions in T20 but in ODI cricket there is a high chance of losing to Australia even have the possibility to Whitewash. Because at this moment Australian few player doing very well, Warner, Steven Smith, Labuschagne and Mitchell Marsh They are all playing well. In every match someone shines and ensures the win of the match.

The transition from slog cricket to ODIs seems to have been a difficult one for England. The result demonstrates the limited predictive value of T20 cricket. Australians put in a comprehensive performance. I was thrilled to see Mitch Starc at his best, probably the best I've seen of him for a very long time. The three-match ODI series currently stands at 2-0 in Australia's favor. A big congratulations to the mighty Aussies!

England is having difficulty in playing and performing in ODI matches although they have won world cup recently. These are entirely different formats of cricket one is elaborate and detailed and other one is short and unpredictable mostly weak teams perform well than strong teams because they perform at that moment and day so same is happening with England.
Australia on other hand didn't make it to semi-final previously now look at their performances.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 20, 2022, 06:08:19 AM

England won T20 World Cup this year but their poor performance of ODI match against Australia is really worrying. Australia have won the first two of the 3-match ODI series with a large distance. And it is expected that there will be a big win in the third match as well. But the victory in the third match make England White Wash. Australia has been performing well since the beginning after the T20 world cup towards the upcoming ODI World Cup.

England is the champion in T20 World Cup but their performance in the ODI format is very poor. The squad that originally played in the T20 World Cup, is missing most of its players for the ODI series. At the same time, the performance of their players is now completely erratic. Players like Moeen Ali, Sam Curran and Woakes are not playing well. The performance of England's players is poor both in batting and bowling. England's players have to play with more responsibility in the last match. Especially the batsmen have to play well. England lost the last two matches due to bad batting.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 20, 2022, 07:59:17 AM

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 20, 2022, 06:08:19 AM

England won T20 World Cup this year but their poor performance of ODI match against Australia is really worrying. Australia have won the first two of the 3-match ODI series with a large distance. And it is expected that there will be a big win in the third match as well. But the victory in the third match make England White Wash. Australia has been performing well since the beginning after the T20 world cup towards the upcoming ODI World Cup.

Although England won the T20, they did not overcome a big target and win the match. It is true that they bowled well that day and Pakistan did not played very well that day. And Pakistan gave them a target of just 137 runs. They were in confusion to meet this target. But finally they saw the face of victory after getting only one over Hughes run, otherwise they would have lost with Pakistan in T20 too.

A team may be good in T20 format but not in other formats. As it happens England are the world champions in T20 but in ODI cricket there is a high chance of losing to Australia even have the possibility to Whitewash. Because at this moment Australian few player doing very well, Warner, Steven Smith, Labuschagne and Mitchell Marsh They are all playing well. In every match someone shines and ensures the win of the match.

The transition from slog cricket to ODIs seems to have been a difficult one for England. The result demonstrates the limited predictive value of T20 cricket. Australians put in a comprehensive performance. I was thrilled to see Mitch Starc at his best, probably the best I've seen of him for a very long time. The three-match ODI series currently stands at 2-0 in Australia's favor. A big congratulations to the mighty Aussies!

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In limited overs, the brand of cricket England team plays, sometimes they are bound to fail and at times might even look ugly but when they click they are going to make a mockery out of their opponents.

In the last 5-6 (under Morgan) This very same outfit changed the White ball game for the cricketing world and i believe one day they are going to become 1st team in cricket history to put 500 runs on the scoreboard (ODI).

Coming back to this match, this is another useless bilateral series, so not very important except for stat padding, both captains also skipped the match.

Here I agreed with you this is completely useless series specially after winning T-20 world cup just because of this English players are not giving their best and losing matches frequently which is not good but good thing happening for them, they are best team in white ball cricket which was never been easy for them here lost to Bangladesh in 2015 world cup bring big changes.

They have done good work for having this all Morgan is also one of the best leaders as he started from scratch and ended with them as champions now they can bring good changes and development with good domestic set up and improved strategy but for this all they have to scratch few things because these are also important for players mentality like these useless bilateral series which are having not positive impact on them.

Now Ben Stokes and BAZ are trying to implement more or less similar ideas in test cricket too, although county is facing a serious challenge due to its schedule.

You have to admire out of the box thinking. Props to Captain, coach and management to bring a drastic change in LOIs, they literally changed the white ball cricket.

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