Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.
Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...
It's called unrealized loss. Really;)
Topic: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) - page 86. (Read 530660 times)
Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...
It's called unrealized loss. Really;)
Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.
Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...
Just some quote from gnosis account to put things into perspective:
his first post on btct in 2013:
Perhaps anoncoin can fulfill a market niche, but everyone is watching the zerocash developers, it's likely they will be in the spotllight while anoncoin at best remains in the shadows
Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin. Since an interested party has chosen to support this development financially, I will be able spend a lot more of my time on this. Expect a release for testing Zerocoin sometime in March!
a few weeks ago:
I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.
his first post on btct in 2013:
Perhaps anoncoin can fulfill a market niche, but everyone is watching the zerocash developers, it's likely they will be in the spotllight while anoncoin at best remains in the shadows
Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin. Since an interested party has chosen to support this development financially, I will be able spend a lot more of my time on this. Expect a release for testing Zerocoin sometime in March!
a few weeks ago:
I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.
Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.
We believe in a project, we hold through the good.... we get eaten alive by devs empty promises.
For shame.
We believe in a project, we hold through the good.... we get eaten alive by devs empty promises.
For shame.
This is fucked up. From an assured Oct 15th testnet, to a week delay, to a 2-3 month delay. There's really nothing I can say, very weird way of acting.
When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.
When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.
I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
Welp, you fucked it up. Only on the last few remaining days you realized that you need 3 extra months? That sounds like bullshit to me, or at least massively irresponsible.
The constant lying, endless delays and market manipulation has stripped Anoncoin of it's credibility and I bet you intended to create all this hype in order to have a better exit price.
I've definitely lost faith in this project..
I guess this is a pretty apt demonstration of anonymity curtailing responsibility. Double-edged sword to say the least. The limits of libertarianism to a fucking T.
If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Agreed with the above!
Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.
I rest my case
Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.
It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.
Bare minimum you should be doing by now besides apologizing is giving a full and detailed report of what you supposedly have achieved so far, and why you are postponing it again for 3 months after being 3 or 4 days away from the release date. The very fact that I am having to tell you this, along with your excess of optimism setting deadlines, is a big hit to your reputation and nail in ANC's coffin IMO.
reputation of an account that has 90 posts you are a funny guy
If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Agreed with the above!
Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.
I rest my case
Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.
It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.
Bare minimum you should be doing by now besides apologizing is giving a full and detailed report of what you supposedly have achieved so far, and why you are postponing it again for 3 months after being 3 or 4 days away from the release date. The very fact that I am having to tell you this, along with your excess of optimism setting deadlines, is a big hit to your reputation and nail in ANC's coffin IMO.
If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Agreed with the above!
Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.
I rest my case
Yes, it was very heavy. In any case, I am still committed to getting this done, just not in the original time frame.
It's probably too much to ask, but for all of you panicking about the price dropping, hold tight because this is only temporary. I remember when BTC dropped from $30 to $2 and stayed there for months, before going back up to $60 and beyond. A coin dropping in price does not mean it's dead.
LMAO
Who is the troll now?
All remember of my posts here. Someone send me 20 BTC some weeks ago to remove them all. Today, I understand why.
Who is the troll now?
All remember of my posts here. Someone send me 20 BTC some weeks ago to remove them all. Today, I understand why.
This thing got very shady very quickly. Are these guys for real?
I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
this happens when one trusts an anonymous developer. delays after delays.
the coin is still defunct and raped on a day to day basis, zerocoin won't be implemented in
near future which all leads to a crypto with a defunct difficulty calculation. i bet the price will dump even harder very soon
sorry for all the investers that bought a ticket for the ANC-Titanic
LOL -- Well that escalated quickly. Manged to half my investment in ANC in a couple of seconds. It's not even worth moving on at this point. See you in a couple'a months I guess...
To be honest I doubt this will ever see the light of day - if you look at the history of this thread, Gnosis cannot devote full time efforts, and even called out for donations so that he could for a small period of time.
My main concern as an investor is if this is ever released and there will be bugs, Gnosis might not be around to fix it.....
Edit: And not to mention the coin is already utterly fucked with difficulty raping going on...
LOL -- Well that escalated quickly. Manged to half my investment in ANC in a couple of seconds. It's not even worth moving on at this point. See you in a couple'a months I guess...
If I may, I'd like to make some suggestions to the ANC team...
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Before the move to zANC I think it would be wise to fix the KGW issue; I don't think K1773R wants to spend his life mining 100k tx when the volume of transactions goes up. It doesn't need to come with the myriad if this is holding ANC back; these could be sequenced.
@ meeh it'd be nice to get an idea of when the fix will be made.
@ Gnosis it seems like a heavy schedule during the 1 week assumed to deliver the zANC testnet... Personally I don't like to get news of delays 1 day before a deadline - it's much better to assume things take 2X or even 3X longer when setting a deadline and deliver ahead of schedule (if things are ready); this fuels much more positive cycles. I know that this is complex and difficult to plan, it's only a matter of managing expectations from the community.
Agreed with the above!
Would also like to add that the proposed schedule outlined by Gnosis looks very heavy and I would infer unrealistic.
I rest my case
I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
You are a manipulator and certainly make much profit with your bullshit estimations.
lol
I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
Really, this is the best you can do after saying it'd be ready in a week?
I underestimated the scope of this project and set too ambitious of a schedule for it. Zerocoin will be probably be ready within 2-3 months, but I don't want to give any more release dates (either for testnet or mainnet) until I am very, very close. I will not make this mistake again.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
I will continue to give status updates, and I have made tremendous progress in recent weeks. As I promised, I will still work full time on this until November 1, and I expect to have a few hours a day after that to work on it.
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