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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 72. (Read 48925 times)

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 1
Hello all,

Question if anyone could help.

I currently run a node on rasp pi 4 with Umbrel OS flashed to it and have Sparrow wallet connected to my node.

As I've already outlayed for the Rasp pi, SSD, SD card etc etc to have that node running, it doesn't make much sense to also buy the full package Apollo. I am very much interested in getting the Apollo Standard (just the miner) so I can contribute some TH from home - moreso for hobby/ethos purposes.

Now from what I've read Apollo have some standalone miner software. Am I able to get that software also flashed onto the same SD card as the Umbrel OS. Basically I want to connect the Apollo Standard to the free USB port on my Pi and have both the Umbrel OS running and also the Apollo miner software running at the same time. That way I don't need to connect the Apollo Standard to some other computer and have that running separately all the time.

Does this make sense? Sorry I'm new to all this. Thanks.

You can test the standalone application on your Umbrel OS. Connect with SSH and run:
Code:
cd /tmp
wget https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases/download/1.1/Apollo-Miner_linux-aarch32.tar.xz
tar -xf Apollo-Miner_linux-aarch32.tar.xz
linux-aarch32/apollo-miner --help

Thanks for your assistance. I've copied the binairies but am getting this error when I try and run it:

- './start_apollo.sh: line 63: ./apollo-miner: No such file or directory'

umbrel@umbrel:~/Apollo-Miner-Binaries $ cd linux-aarch32
umbrel@umbrel:~/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/linux-aarch32 $ sudo ./start_apollo.sh
[sudo] password for umbrel:
./start_apollo.sh: line 63: ./apollo-miner: No such file or directory
umbrel@umbrel:~/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/linux-aarch32 $


FYI I haven't actually purchased or connected a standard Apollo to by Rasp pi yet. I am just tickering with this to see if I can work out how to do so before committing to purchasing one. Thanks for any further guidance.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 2
Hello all,

Question if anyone could help.

I currently run a node on rasp pi 4 with Umbrel OS flashed to it and have Sparrow wallet connected to my node.

As I've already outlayed for the Rasp pi, SSD, SD card etc etc to have that node running, it doesn't make much sense to also buy the full package Apollo. I am very much interested in getting the Apollo Standard (just the miner) so I can contribute some TH from home - moreso for hobby/ethos purposes.

Now from what I've read Apollo have some standalone miner software. Am I able to get that software also flashed onto the same SD card as the Umbrel OS. Basically I want to connect the Apollo Standard to the free USB port on my Pi and have both the Umbrel OS running and also the Apollo miner software running at the same time. That way I don't need to connect the Apollo Standard to some other computer and have that running separately all the time.

Does this make sense? Sorry I'm new to all this. Thanks.

You can test the standalone application on your Umbrel OS. Connect with SSH and run:
Code:
cd /tmp
wget https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases/download/1.1/Apollo-Miner_linux-aarch32.tar.xz
tar -xf Apollo-Miner_linux-aarch32.tar.xz
linux-aarch32/apollo-miner --help
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 1
Hello all,

Question if anyone could help.

I currently run a node on rasp pi 4 with Umbrel OS flashed to it and have Sparrow wallet connected to my node.

As I've already outlayed for the Rasp pi, SSD, SD card etc etc to have that node running, it doesn't make much sense to also buy the full package Apollo. I am very much interested in getting the Apollo Standard (just the miner) so I can contribute some TH from home - moreso for hobby/ethos purposes.

Now from what I've read Apollo have some standalone miner software. Am I able to get that software also flashed onto the same SD card as the Umbrel OS. Basically I want to connect the Apollo Standard to the free USB port on my Pi and have both the Umbrel OS running and also the Apollo miner software running at the same time. That way I don't need to connect the Apollo Standard to some other computer and have that running separately all the time.

Does this make sense? Sorry I'm new to all this. Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1235
Merit: 1202
Looks neatly finished so far - Except for the small "CPU-FAN". Since the thing is only attached with two screws - completely warped and sounds accordingly...

Basically it is mentioned that no updates may be pulled from the official Ubuntu Repos. But what if I want to install additional packages like anydesk? Need an update from the libgcc1 etc... and apt cache update and more packages?

Adding more packages should be fine as long as you don't update any current dependencies that the Apollo software uses. Give it a try; worst case you need to reflash your SD, no big deal

Does that include Umbrel and Lightning Node

I've not tried but it's been on my list to see if it works because I'm desperate to get the LN side of things going on this. Give it a shot and report back!
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Looks neatly finished so far - Except for the small "CPU-FAN". Since the thing is only attached with two screws - completely warped and sounds accordingly...

Basically it is mentioned that no updates may be pulled from the official Ubuntu Repos. But what if I want to install additional packages like anydesk? Need an update from the libgcc1 etc... and apt cache update and more packages?

Adding more packages should be fine as long as you don't update any current dependencies that the Apollo software uses. Give it a try; worst case you need to reflash your SD, no big deal

Does that include Umbrel and Lightning Node
legendary
Activity: 1235
Merit: 1202
Looks neatly finished so far - Except for the small "CPU-FAN". Since the thing is only attached with two screws - completely warped and sounds accordingly...

Basically it is mentioned that no updates may be pulled from the official Ubuntu Repos. But what if I want to install additional packages like anydesk? Need an update from the libgcc1 etc... and apt cache update and more packages?

Adding more packages should be fine as long as you don't update any current dependencies that the Apollo software uses. Give it a try; worst case you need to reflash your SD, no big deal
sr. member
Activity: 415
Merit: 253
Looks neatly finished so far - Except for the small "CPU-FAN". Since the thing is only attached with two screws - completely warped and sounds accordingly...

Basically it is mentioned that no updates may be pulled from the official Ubuntu Repos. But what if I want to install additional packages like anydesk? Need an update from the libgcc1 etc... and apt cache update and more packages?
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 1
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode

Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operating above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?

The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.

Thanks! That actually makes me feel much more comfortable.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Yes, this is what I was asking about. Is there a 90% rule? 

It's 80% for reasons of long (way before crypto was a glint in Satoshi's eye) painful experience. There are tons of examples of "not quite enough" PSUs (especially see the older Goldshell Doge Mini burnt connector issues) being bad news.

LeftLane10Under replied to your earlier PSU post and provided a bit of clarity on temps and hash rate about 4 posts above.

Specifically:

Quote from: LeftLane10Under
I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 1
Quote
If you follow the 80% "rule"

Yes, this is what I was asking about. Is there a 90% rule?  The mining HW is all new to me.

Mined BTC on my discrete GPU many years ago. Looking to understand the HW limits. My unit's temps are relatively low and consistent, is there more juice that can be squeezed with the stock PSU I already have before buying a new one?

Thanks!
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.

Does the stock PSU offer any leeway to OC the hashboard? Mine is practically at 2 weeks uptime, seems to be very stable SW, looking forward to the bitcoin apps you're working on.  

Is the miner's hashrate supposed to match the slushpool's hashrate on the Apollo Dashboard?

Apollo Dashboard - https://ibb.co/940wnHk

Apollo Detail - https://ibb.co/3F6vj3M

Slushpool Detail - https://ibb.co/q9FvSZR

If you follow the 80% "rule" there's no leeway. There are some discussions above regarding more powerful PSUs but keep in mind potential thermal issues.

The miner and the pool rates will never exactly match. The miner hashrate changes constantly as does latency between miner and pool, the rate of the pool's UI updates (5 minutes for Slushpool), and so forth.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 1
The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.

Does the stock PSU offer any leeway to OC the hashboard? Mine is practically at 2 weeks uptime, seems to be very stable SW, looking forward to the bitcoin apps you're working on.  

Is the miner's hashrate supposed to match the slushpool's hashrate on the Apollo Dashboard?

Apollo Dashboard - https://ibb.co/940wnHk

Apollo Detail - https://ibb.co/3F6vj3M

Slushpool Detail - https://ibb.co/q9FvSZR
jr. member
Activity: 107
Merit: 7
I have two batch 2 full node systems and I can no longer run a node on either because the ssd error light comes on and the systems don't boot up. I was able to get one system to boot months ago by removing the drive. The other system was refusing to boot even without the drive installed the error light was coming on. After I removed the ribbon cable for the ssd from the controller it boots and mines again.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode

Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operating above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?

The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.

Awesome news
legendary
Activity: 2174
Merit: 1401
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode

Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operating above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?

The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 1
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode

Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operating above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 118
A note for anyone looking for another PPLNS pool. The apollo is a fun piece of hardware and works great, but better to verify than just blindly trust! After testing the releases of the miner binaries ( 64 bit v. 1, 32/64 bit v.2) and showing they can submit high enough difficulty shares to find a block, Kano's Pool will now allow them on the PPLNS side and not just solo.

newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.

Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 1
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon

Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?

I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.

I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 1
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
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