Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 189. (Read 678353 times)

I understand everyone wants this work out; so do I - but let's not be ignorant to the facts at hand here.

I'm also very concerned about all the scammy startups that have made that Chester Pike address their 'home base'. It seems Joshua Zipkin (Founder of AMT) or his father, has made a living creating bogus corporations and businesses.

It's no wonder they have been deflecting attention from themselves this whole time, I cannot imagine how they would even begin to explain some of these "coincidences" between all of those bullshit startup companies, and AMT. It's just easier to hope people don't DIG into their past, and if questions arise: ignore them.

rofl... your enthusiasm makes me chuckle casir. it's not too late for you. if you havent purchased yet take your money and run. jesus christ man they basically shut the door on your face and you still want to give them money? go to KNC and at least have some piece of mind. i have been waiting since Nov.11th and you think this is a fluke?

/facepalm

AMT, Do you have any updates?

total scam.

just found this on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-AMT-bitcoin-miner-1-2-T-in-hand-Ready-to-ship-/281276808626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417d677db2#ht_1097wt_923

Scam or not? I myself got scammed on a neptune preorder for over 9kUSD.  I can't afford to get into mining now.   learned my lesson though.

Every day that passes looks worse and worse for AMT. Clenell I'm curious what your attorney has to say about all this. They're 4 weeks passed expected shipping date for me and this has been unacceptable. Not even one terahash machine has even been spotted in the real world, and the frustrating lack of updates from AMT doesn't help at all (and even when they do update us it's with false and/or misleading information). We may have to take the legal route through all this

to answer your question... NO of course i don't have a tracking number. these guys aren't even close to delivering terrahash machines. nothing AMT has ever said on these boards has been true.

I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO GIVE ME ONE EXAMPLE OF AMT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THEIR WORD.

At this junction i dont want my miner. i want a refund NOW. they have until wednesday night to respond to my request for a full and immediate refund.

Do you have a tracking number of your 1.2t miner coming in?
I am wandering if there is some sign of shipping amongst all of amt customers?
Time is ticktacking away and it is not about you ROI anymore. Every day delay cons and at the end it may turn out that you will loose most of your investment.

These emails from amazon.com make me smile.

craig a lenell, a customer just told us your review was helpful to them while shopping on Amazon.
 
Bitcoin Miner - AMT 180gh/s Coin...   
 
Bitcoin Miner - AMT 180gh/s Coin...
 
 1.0 out of 5 stars

There's another customer AMT didn't need due in part to all the "old money" they have. More reviews coming soon for AMT. I will eventually make them pay for their total lack of transparency.
 

I guess what I'm really most surprised by is how much ethnicity has played a role in any of this. Either in the for or against camp.

I totally missed that.

LOL on the cptn crunch and chef boi r d

agree.
hope I wasn't out of line using your name at the end like that. let me know and I can edit that last part out. I didn't mean to speak for you, it just kind of slipped out.

Crunch, your best point was the first one: how Rwmax misspoke on behalf of AMT by saying "we".

Impossible to trust AMT after going to these desperate lengths of impersonating satisfied customers.

Maybe, but It made me feel better

Holy crap Phinneus, Remind me to never get on your bad side.

You have got some skills.

I'm not sure the break down of his post were warranted or necessary.

I'm going to laugh though if the site reads that march shipping is available come april.

Oh yea one more thing I forgot to add

RWmax, Sir. If in fact you are not an AMT associate (which all sines point to highly unlikely)
I have a challenge for you and maybe a way to make some extra coin.

On April 1st go to AMT personally to pickup your new hardware the same as Sgt. Merrey did with camera in hand but instead of pointing the camera at the wall as you are knocking on the door point it at your face so we can all see your expression when you relize they are now ignoring you because they already have your money. that is a video I would surly donate some btc to see.

I do plan to send Sgt. merry some as well for his efforts, it is just that currently I don't have any because.... Well I guess I don't have to explain that here.

Hi all,
done working for the day and now it's time to relax and enjoy my weekend before it all starts over tomorrow. Unfortunately that is the life of most who choose to live the American dream. anyway I see nobody has gone over our friend RWmax's post from last night so here goes.

Before I begin I feel like some credit should be given where credit is due. I am sure there will be a few of you that might call me a shill for this and maybe I deserve it but I whined in a couple of past posts about the lack of updates and questioned whether they would honer their miner protection program.
Well since then they have updated us twice in as many weeks with a delivery schedule (which unfortunately was missed and a new schedule was not given) I do believe they are trying to improve things. (call me naive) I would also like to hand it to them for stepping up and honoring their commitment for the extra hash power which renews my hope af a return of investment providing the shipments aren't delayed to much longer and I can get these machines up and running within the next couple of weeks.

now that that is out of the way let me move on to something that really pisses me off. this post of RWmax's is wrong on so many levals and frankly just insults my intelligence as it should all the other paid customers of AMT.

I will try to be as brief as possible but there is a lot of information to go over here and I hope you will all bear with me. I apologize in advance for some raw language so anyone with sensitive eyeballs may want to just skip to the next post.

As AMT has said more than one person uses there handle on this forum so I'm not even going to venture a guess at who penned this post but I think the sentence structure and phrasing matches braggard, grandiose attitude of several previous posts from AMT.


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First of all they flat out say who is writing this in the first line.

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Furthermore, they are established, shipping and have the chips they needs to make a miner run. If i had to take a guess, they have been shipping since last week, but they'll "first ship to a more enlightened crowd" and then get to the line-up.
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So what exactly are you trying to say here. You/they are going to ship the first batch of miners over to the mason hall and fuck over the people who financed your operation.
personally I try not to be a conspiracy nut and have nothing against masons but enlightened is a term used frequently in Freemasonry. Don't believe me? do a google search for something like "mason enlightened"

Let me tell you why you/they won't be doing this. If one word or picture slipped out onto the internet or any delay beyond that which is reasonable, you would see a massive group of people jumping on Mr. Lennel's class action suit faster than you can say square deal. I don't think this new company has enough old money to weather that storm.

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They've posted pics of their hardware, no video - but they didn't post a video the last time and their miners did exactly what they said it would do. They probably shot the video and just haven't had to produced it, or they just dont care because orders keep coming in anyway.

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It is actually beginning to look more and more that they just don't care.

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Also, the "promised delivery date for the 2.4's is April 1st." That's 29 days away. I'm sure they can fulfill and ship all their orders until that point, at which point they'll liquidate stock just like they did with their previous miners. The only thing i didn't like is that they didn't drop the prices with more than -5%.

Its obvious they don't want PR or the press. Thats why they build and ship without all the hoopla. They probably built this company with "old money", and with all the activity in this forum i'd say they sold at least 2.5 to 3.5 million in hardware. They are selling and building on two different continents, don't forget it.

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Your damm right it was with old money, some of it up to 5 months old they/you posted near the begining of this thread that they were using some of the prepay money to move into your expanded digg's and invited us all to visit. Remember?

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They also stated they have enough chips to fulfill orders through march, and another chip batch is on the way (stated a few weeks ago).

And my last guess is they stopped caring about this forum, because the bad PR and the bad press keeps them at the very top of the custom hardware section! I also noticed they stopped advertising on google. They've also previously stated that the negative posts on this forum leads them to more sales...  SO .. really.. I think you assholes are actually helping them sell. LOL!

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Personally I could care less at this point whether they/you sell more miners. I kind of hope you do as it will help insure you don't go under before their/your backlog gets cleaned up as I am mostly concerned with the people who bought before they had enough information on what kind of business practices AMT appear to be using. So lol back at ya.

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Your proving they are legit company in the US - that the owners are american - that they are really in philadelphia, that they have cell phones you can reach them at! I mean come - as customer my biggest fear is buying from some international Joe shmoe in god knows where.. are you kidding. Your validating everything good about their company and trying to spin it in a negative way.  YOUR HELPING THEM SELL! ITS HILARIOUS

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This again. I believe most on here accept they/you are a legit business operating somewhere in Philli. sure some don't but in my opinion AMT has given plenty of reason for doubt.
Ignoring Mr Merrey's visit didn't help.

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Also, i'm sure they'll let this for a few more days - they are letting all the trolls get everything out of their system, use all they can dig up and then they'll post their video and be like - we'll your credibility is shot on this forum - make another username asshole. Especially the hero members.

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Some on here may disagree but personally I could give a fuck about a video at this point. It isn't going to get anyone's miner out the door any faster. all I would like is an honest ship date and if for some reason an explanation of what the problem is, how you/they plan to rectify the problem , and what the knew honest ship date will be.

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So to sum it up:  I ordered 2 more miners from AMT because of the following reasons:

1. I believe they are pulling it off.

2. I think they'll ship everyone's miner and they have "chip stock" to build my miners for April 1st.

3. If they don't get their "internal board is working", worst case is they'll keep the AMT-bitmine design and add another 5-6 boards extra in a larger box with an extra power supply, its not rocket science, any asshole can do it. Otherwise how much could that little board actually yield? It's not like it hashes at "160ghs because using a micro controller approach" allows for individual power customization/communication with each chip.

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Here is another scenario. AMT could take those fancy new daisy chain boards they/you were showing off for their 2.4's and 3.2's, wire them up glue them in a case and take care of there backlogged orders and then worry about filling your orders. (if indeed you even have an order) Doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

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4. Bitmine has a working product therefor intern AMT has a working product - AMT is bitmines distributors, they're in videos together.

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This is the part that worries me and why others on here would like to see the video.
AMT was Johny on the spot to post the link to bitmine's video of a hashing machine but have yet to show anything but the bitfury board hashing.
I would certainly think that as excited as they were to show bitmines success they would be itching to show theirs. This seems a little odd to me.

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5. They have the best chips in the industry.

6. After doing my own research on Josh - who is one of three owners by the way.. idiots - I've realized that this guy is businessman.  He's does't seem to be a technician and he's not an engineer. And a businessman is in it for the gross margin that he'll make on the sale, not how much he can mine. So I don't think AMT will ever mine with our hardware, i think they'll "produce and ship" as fast as they can.

I think they'll take the majority of the competitors in the market down to 5% or below. Because you can't stay in business long if someone with more money and more power has the "ability to stick around longer" than you can. Because thats American business, and they've already demonstrated they are willing to be cheaper.

7. I'm sure they have money to pull this off, they are the only miner manufacturer which is being "subcontracted by a US Bank to build miners". Orders are also in the 1500's.. I think AMT has the capital to pull this off and then some. I just think they are understaffed and "need help from this community".

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Again they damm well better have enough money to pull this off. the last estimate Yourpaltoots gave was nearly a quarter milion of other peoples money and now supposedly they have yours too.

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8. They have already shipped, why would they stop now.

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Yes we know they/you have already miners. we have heard from a few who have received your bitfury machines but frankly I find it deceptive to prospective customers as they/you make it sound like the A1 machines have been flying out the door and nobody on the big list has yet to receive one, let alone even recieve a tracking number based on any evidense shown here or anywhere.
AMT has been using this deceptive language from the beginning and that bothers me because people aren't able to make truly informed decisions on these large time sensitive purchases.

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9. They are the only american miner manufacturer to not take the standard business PR/ Political approach to the market, it shows they don't care about how the world sees them. Which means they really don't need money, that they already have it, and if they already have money, they'll be able to produce my miner.

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I think they/you have made that painfully obviose

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10. I'm a Jew - and I'd rather work with another Jew - it just makes for better business. Trust me, they'll ship to all the Rosenbergs and Goldsteins before all the Johnsons and Peterson's. They'll never admit it, but Jews take care of each other, it's how it's always been.

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It took a long time to get here. I hope a few are still with me because I find bullet point 10 is the most offensive.

If what you say here is true, and I truly hope that it isn't for AMT's sake, but if it is true (a) thank you for verifying that josh is circumcised as there may have been a couple of people on here that were wondering and (b) thank you for informing any prospective new customers will be handled in the order in which they purchased unless they are jewish and like to suck dick. then you might be moved to the head of the line.

honestly I am thinking about sending an e-mail to Jim to verify whether these are actually valid order numbers and let him know how appalled I am by this statement.

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Oh - and Sirminesalot - you don't mine a lot - go fuck yourself.

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I can honestly say the feelings on that last line are most likely mutual between you/them and sirminesalot


If anyone has anything else to add feel free.

some form of case......  LOL!!  labor?  all of 30 minutes?  maybe an hour or 2 if you're clueless.  not sure how long it takes you to hook up a PSU and turn it on....

i just picked up a corsair 750W power supply for $85.  I'm sure you can get a quality 500W PSU for cheap.  Or get an 850 and run 2 ants off of it.   Some guys even use server PSU's and run several ants from them.

here's my "farm".  as you can see, i don't do cases.  Yes, that's an AMT miner.  the only thing AMT original on it is the AMT tag and the metal rack the boards screw into.

Just reading your posts and trying to figure out how it's related directly to AMT not just a town or building.