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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 01, 2014, 05:45:15 AM

AMT_miners will reply that Alyssia did make the first post when she was in the office at noonish, and that it was Jim Brown who make the post at midnightish.

Joshua Zipkin with his 7 year business degree from Penn State rarely posts on this thread, for he's thoroughly disgusted with it. Besides, most of AMT's sales stem elsewhere, with only a few sales stemming from this forum. This thread only acts as a communique for the various other folks that mostly own hosting companies in case they have an issue or desire to order more product, both of which they don't because they don't exist. 90% of sales stem from this thread. Since nobody has yet received a miner, it's a foregone conclusion that AMT is mining with equipment paid for from its customers.

If I were a con man, this is exactly what I would do. If AMT is viable, then in no way in hell would they have let this become the mess it is, ergo they are a con and mining away.

Which explains the reluctance to demo running systems.

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When Bruno went to pick up his miner, they said something to the effect of "good luck with that miner that overheats". They also seem to want revenge on those of us who filed complaints. I don't feel safe accepting a miner from them at this point. I feel the need to report this in addition to my fraud case.

IF you can find some proof thats ok but you turn up to your case in court the judge say did they say this....."erm i think they did" hel laugh you back out of the room
and yes the unit over heats due to the cooling propertys of the case its in which ends up in a unit shut down and half hour reboot prcedure. pleas stop trying to insinuate its a bomb in a box christ they could ship you a box of blooming saars or ebola virus. but they wont

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Quote from: majalen33 on April 01, 2014, 10:50:11 AM

But to be clear. They have openly said miners are causing fires/overheating. I want a refund more now than ever as I fear for my property and family. It is not only my finances strained but safety.

Where have they said 'causing fires'? Overheating in the 1st versions, ja. Fires, no. Huge difference.

Now, I HAVE mentioned that BFL had a problem with supplies for their old Jalapenos and Singles rather dramatically blowing out. Confusing with that perhaps?

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Still awaiting a response to the kit order i agreed to. i emailed them on the sales email and still nothing. im not far off leaving you guys negative trust here which wont look good on your thread, i have risked 5.1btc with you guys and recieved nothing,

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Quote from: opieum2 on April 01, 2014, 10:46:45 AM

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Yes, I am also afraid to get a miner and only want a refund. They said they were giving certain people "the miners that overheat".

Well that might be true that they said that BUT they did say they disclosed that information to the clients. Keep it in context. Not like they underhandedly sent them that. If so we would certainly know about that already.

this is true. if they openly said you can have a miner in a case, that may or may not set fire to itself, you and your house and you said "ok" its on you not them. plus anyone who has taken the kit option has to provide a psu and or an lcd screen and accept such purchases as part and parcel of the deal. it seems some people on here wish to have the last nay say about amt. i for one after recieving my "kit" will review the power/performance of the unit. it also gives me the option of customizing, i like the idea of the touch lcd posted before and i may also do custom cooling and casing pictures will follow as soon as things arrive.

edit

your tv may cause a fire if left on stand by and your pc/gpu mining rig may also just go up in flames. amd do not accept responsibility or even disclose that the gpu may explode but it could

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Quote from: majalen33 on April 01, 2014, 10:50:11 AM

But to be clear. They have openly said miners are causing fires/overheating. I want a refund more now than ever as I fear for my property and family. It is not only my finances strained but safety.

Wait what? Quote that? what post?

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But to be clear. They have openly said miners are causing fires/overheating. I want a refund more now than ever as I fear for my property and family. It is not only my finances strained but safety.

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Yes, I am also afraid to get a miner and only want a refund. They said they were giving certain people "the miners that overheat".

Well that might be true that they said that BUT they did say they disclosed that information to the clients. Keep it in context. Not like they underhandedly sent them that. If so we would certainly know about that already.

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 12:54:54 AM

Quote from: clenell on March 31, 2014, 11:12:00 PM

so... AMT will ship you parts without PSU's and/or cases and leave the assembly to you. Further, they will not credit individuals for parts not shipped. secondly, they completely disregard an order queue and hint that people filing complaints will get their miner when AMT feels like it. All of you out their groveling for your "parts" and "DIY" kits have at it. Might I also suggest you try amazon.com for a little dignity.

Hey AMT I have filed a complaint with EVERY agency there is. I will not settle for anything other than a FULL refund at this point.

Craig I believe we shipped your miner today. When I get to assembly in the afternoon I'll see if I can pull your tracking number.

I do not want your shoddy miner. who knows you probably sabotaged my miner (like Bruno's). I want a refund and nothing more from you scam artists.

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:09:07 AM

Quote from: regtable69 on March 31, 2014, 04:52:08 PM

am i right in presuming the "kit" of 5 cards is the 1.2t machine and it comes with lcd screen or is that integral part of pi.

Actually we weren't going to throw in the LCD screen. We were how ever looking for bulk HDMI cables. The idea of the kit is to get the techies their miners quick. As they know what to do with them, we'd assume they'd hook up their monitors to the pi.

ahhhh so you can run them off a monitor minus tjhe lcd screen i was un aware that the pi had outputs as i have never in my life seen a pi. apart from the meat and potato options lmao. can you confirm the "nominal" speed of the kit? not a dead it is x ghs but a ghs+/_ figure. thanks.
p.s iv been informed you responded to the order i have interest in i thank you for doing so and hope to hell its not an april fools! :-P

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Quote from: Chazaki on April 01, 2014, 12:07:51 AM

I have a ton of power supplies available to use if they would just ship me the boards and the chips. I am more than willing to do this but can't get a response from AMT.

email the sales adress with subject line "bct in CAPS quoting kit option" gets you a response as i have found out.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 01, 2014, 05:45:15 AM

Quote from: MinerPro on April 01, 2014, 05:32:35 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on March 31, 2014, 03:12:51 PM

Alyssa,

And Josh rarely types here.

I'll check you're mail and get back to you shortly.

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit.

Wait, what? Who? When? Seriously confused here.... Is Alyssa referring to herself in the third person? Or is it not Alyssa.
One would almost think they're not completely honest here....

We do not want the Dupe It Yourself kit. Where's our refund?

AMT_miners will reply that Alyssia did make the first post when she was in the office at noonish, and that it was Jim Brown who make the post at midnightish.

Joshua Zipkin with his 7 year business degree from Penn State rarely posts on this thread, for he's thoroughly disgusted with it. Besides, most of AMT's sales stem elsewhere, with only a few sales stemming from this forum. This thread only acts as a communique for the various other folks that mostly own hosting companies in case they have an issue or desire to order more product, both of which they don't because they don't exist. 90% of sales stem from this thread. Since nobody has yet received a miner, it's a foregone conclusion that AMT is mining with equipment paid for from its customers.

If I were a con man, this is exactly what I would do. If AMT is viable, then in no way in hell would they have let this become the mess it is, ergo they are a con and mining away.

Hahaha, AMT_ will not reply at all. Also, they're now making new promises, but I can't shake off the cynical preposition anymore. I hope for everyone that their orders will be satisfied, DIY-kit or case included. Whatever they deliver now will not ROI and the MPP is shady at best, they've already tried to contend their own statements about that.

We have no stake in the game anymore -since we cancelled our order- other than a simple but very effective refund. It would shut us up, at any rate.

So AMT_ where's our refund?

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:06:24 AM

Quote from: NaranKPatel on March 31, 2014, 08:26:09 PM

Likely a dual 800 supply will cheap than 1500

Quote from: sirminesalot on March 31, 2014, 07:52:52 PM

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on March 31, 2014, 07:32:17 PM

When trying different fans, first look at the cfm needed and just make sure ya at least match the total cfm of whatever they ship with. Or... maybe wedge some copper or aluminum tubing between the fins and plumb to a manifold for liquid-cooling... Wink

Heck, I'd be tempted to pull the sinks and mount a cold-plate instead. Hmm...

On PSU's gotta say check Amazon or ebay, case in point, http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_6?rh=n%3A1161760%2Ck%3Ahp+server+power+supply%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906988011&keywords=hp+server+power+supply&ie=UTF8&qid=1396308246&rnid=6525659011

Only catch is that they usually have 1-2 heavy output buses in the form of big copper lugs. Folks sel lug to pcie cable breakouts or just make yer own from some sets of pcie extender cables.

The case is fucked because it can't natively support two power supplies in it.

That's why buying a desktop PC case for this design was retarded. So was hoping it'd all run off of one power supply, and be expandable, to boot.

The way I see it, it'd be better to have dual 750's or 1000watt PSU's - redundancy being the key here (not one power supply issue will take all boards offline).

Shop around for "dual power supply cable" - these will let you connect two powersupplies to one motherboard (or switch). They are fairly cheap.

It's likely that 2 x 750/900w supplies will be cheaper and more popular than one big 1500-1800 watt unit anyway, thus less of supply/demand issue. I assume you just need to chain power cables switches of both turn on together so that all boards on the back-plane are powered in the chain at the same time otherwise no joy...

I would like / prefer, 6 x board back plane with 2 power chained together option if it exists...? Some of 800-900w units are fairly small, I wonder if they can they fit in the rack case?!? Both inside, one out one in, both outside?

We can fit it in the rack case, the problem with the 40 nordco cases we bought is that the internal hard drive sections (which pull out) stick in about 1-2 inches too far and it doesn't allow for fans on the back of our cage. We've take all the hard drive pull out sections to the cnc guy, he'll have his minions manually modify(cut down) each of the pullouts. Then we can ship the rack mounts.

Naran, if you'd like we can go ahead and ship you these board/cages as is and get you the cases after we get them modified.

Guys,

1) How long to get the rack cases mods completed? Power supplies and for it ship fully assembled?
2) I really don't care about the hard drive mounts, unless where they mount, the metal extrusions stick out and get in the way of the cage mounting? Is that's what you mean for the CNC machining down job so that it fits - this would make sense.
3) I believe you said the power supplies are still on back order? I have get my own 1500w power supply then with the kit if I accepted the DIY kit?
4) What happens if cage still doesn't fit the rack case after it ships out later? I can't shake the feeling I'm get unfinished product with little or no warranty?
5) What happens if something doesn't work after it arrives, you could say I broke it in DIY assembly?
6) Will you provide RMA's if there are faults found in the DIY the kits? Or only on the finished, fully assembled and tested products?
7) My preference is for fully assembled product with warranty, but it seems your telling me the parts to assemble are delayed? So take it as is or just wait?

The wait has been so long as my orders are from Oct 13 & 15, as you know, late for me started on Dec 15th 2013 and I'll be hitting your MPP in 6 weeks, likely one of first ...

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Quote from: MinerPro on April 01, 2014, 05:32:35 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on March 31, 2014, 03:12:51 PM

Alyssa,

And Josh rarely types here.

I'll check you're mail and get back to you shortly.

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit.

Wait, what? Who? When? Seriously confused here.... Is Alyssa referring to herself in the third person? Or is it not Alyssa.
One would almost think they're not completely honest here....

We do not want the Dupe It Yourself kit. Where's our refund?

AMT_miners will reply that Alyssia did make the first post when she was in the office at noonish, and that it was Jim Brown who make the post at midnightish.

Joshua Zipkin with his 7 year business degree from Penn State rarely posts on this thread, for he's thoroughly disgusted with it. Besides, most of AMT's sales stem elsewhere, with only a few sales stemming from this forum. This thread only acts as a communique for the various other folks that mostly own hosting companies in case they have an issue or desire to order more product, both of which they don't because they don't exist. 90% of sales stem from this thread. Since nobody has yet received a miner, it's a foregone conclusion that AMT is mining with equipment paid for from its customers.

If I were a con man, this is exactly what I would do. If AMT is viable, then in no way in hell would they have let this become the mess it is, ergo they are a con and mining away.

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Quote from: AMT_miners on March 31, 2014, 03:12:51 PM

Alyssa,

And Josh rarely types here.

I'll check you're mail and get back to you shortly.

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit.

Wait, what? Who? When? Seriously confused here.... Is Alyssa referring to herself in the third person? Or is it not Alyssa.
One would almost think they're not completely honest here....

We do not want the Dupe It Yourself kit. Where's our refund?

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Quote from: augustocroppo on March 31, 2014, 08:32:27 PM

Quote from: AMT_miners on March 31, 2014, 03:12:51 PM

Alyssa,

And Josh rarely types here.

I'll check you're mail and get back to you shortly.

You are certainly not Alyssa, but Josh or Jim pretending to be Alyssa. I quite doubt that an Alyssa would use so many technical terms in her posts and know certain details which just a Josh or a Jim should know from the onset of this topic.

Damn you, AC. I wanted to pen that, but opted to read till the end before opting to post. Ideally, I would rather hold my tongue, assuming the best is happening, vis a vis AMT is doing their best to get a handle on things.

As a courtesy to those with pending orders, I shall keep my noise down to a minimum.

Having been in AMT's office, and even used the bathroom, it's safe to say that nary a woman has graced their office, working there or visiting, pretty Jewish girls or otherwise. Ergo, the ruse from Camp AMT continues.

What's even more amazing is that with all the individuals that supposedly man the AMT_miners account, none of them felt it prudent to satisfy nary a customer that has penned on this thread and what nut. Further amazingly, Joshua Zipkin supposedly rarely pens using this account, let alone taking the time to come here and read posts, reiterated most recently, and he's the brains of the outfit.

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:11:05 AM

Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:06:25 AM

I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption?
I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue.

Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided.

Upgrade to a touch-screen... http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-3-2-tft-lcd-display-touch-panel-pcb-adapter-sd-slot-for-arduino-2560.html?___store=en&___store=en&gclid=CNDHk_3Kvr0CFSho7AodaksAEg

Better than the 2-bar LCD display... AMT logo friendly. No custom logo emblem needed ... saves more money. (Ok, not really, but it is cooler! lol.)

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:15:43 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:11:05 AM

Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:06:25 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 12:58:01 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.

We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something.

The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc..

I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption?
I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue.

Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided.

Sounds good to me. If I like the performance and I see the issues smoothing out with production, I'd consider getting some extra boards if they are priced right and you you end up selling upgrade kits.

Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit.

We're hoping our 4 chip board will be ready sometime next week for mass production, if it is, that board it will allow for much smaller and efficient case options, 1u/2u server cases.

any word on if additional boards could be handled with the one pi?

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Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:15:43 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:11:05 AM

Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:06:25 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 12:58:01 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.

We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something.

The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc..

I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption?
I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue.

Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided.

Sounds good to me. If I like the performance and I see the issues smoothing out with production, I'd consider getting some extra boards if they are priced right and you you end up selling upgrade kits.

Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit.

We're hoping our 4 chip board will be ready sometime next week for mass production, if it is, that board it will allow for much smaller and efficient case options, 1u/2u server cases.

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Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 01:11:05 AM

Quote from: rik_khaos on April 01, 2014, 01:06:25 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on April 01, 2014, 12:58:01 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.

We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something.

The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc..

I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption?
I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue.

Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided.

Sounds good to me. If I like the performance and I see the issues smoothing out with production, I'd consider getting some extra boards if they are priced right and you you end up selling upgrade kits.

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