When Bruno went to pick up his miner, they said something to the effect of "good luck with that miner that overheats". They also seem to want revenge on those of us who filed complaints. I don't feel safe accepting a miner from them at this point. I feel the need to report this in addition to my fraud case.
IF you can find some proof thats ok but you turn up to your case in court the judge say did they say this....."erm i think they did" hel laugh you back out of the roomand yes the unit over heats due to the cooling propertys of the case its in which ends up in a unit shut down and half hour reboot prcedure. pleas stop trying to insinuate its a bomb in a box christ they could ship you a box of blooming saars or ebola virus. but they wont
dude wtf? get off of AMT's nuts!! who the fuck are you anyway jonny come lately? fuck off with your AMT fanboy shit. you are not going to get your miner any faster. you are little peon to AMT and they could care less about you. Stop acting like such a tool!
with regards to legal action we all bought pre prder units, amt only need to stand there and prove the money you invested or the theoretical pixiedust btc which isn't a currency that is regulated or recognized by a legal entity was and or is used in the process of your miner so they have got chips, boards, heat sinks, cases, cages, fans, pis, and everything but a psu one missing component holding up the whole process. oh and the fact they offered a settlement, of you who cant wait or dont require the full set up and have an iota of a brain cell to piece together a flat pack kit can have this. now please come to the front of the que, the rest you'll have to wait
To put it all into context so you understand it i shall paraphrase the whole lot into one example for you here goes.
you walk into mcdonalds buy an apple pie. there isnt one ready but you paid, they cant refund you because you paid by card so they offer you a 6 minute wait or sundae. either way you luck out you have a wait for what you want or you get icecream but you wanted pie .
i am not and never will be an amt fan boy i am a customer and i want what is best for me not you but me. when i recieve my miner be it que jumped because im happy to recieve an "inferior" product lacking only in aesthetics and a psu i couldn't use then so be it
good day to you sir and happy mining.
if i am wrong as amt read these posts they'll correct me.
So your basically saying if you go to a car dealer and they give you some car parts your fine going away and putting it together yourself, if you screw it up or break something, your fine with that risk?
Some people may have an issue with that when they bought a finished product. I'm just saying we were sold a finished product and this KIT being offered may appeal to some, but even then if it's not working your somewhat on your own, plus the KIT still effectively needs finishing off.
My specific issue with this approach is support and RMA? How is this going to be dealt with? In a time sensitive industry/situation you need to have a creative response to replace and ship ahead too, Kit's just makes this a lot more difficult to do. Finished product have known BOM elements so in control of the manufacturer, if you choose some power supply or replace the fans and it messes things up, guess who's liable?
They aren't going to honor board failures for negligence, this is why I'd prefer a finished product your protected by consumer rights. DIY Kits are somewhat take or leave it...you accept it not working properly or breaking risks.
you want a finished product i understand that and for that you need to wait for all pieces to come together, if you threatened legal action on a public forum which i believe could be kind of slanderous then amt cant ship you a kit due to the aspect of you turn up with bits and in court say a is what i was supposed to get b is what i recieved judge instantly sees it from your stand point. amt have not conducted very well on here from a business stand point due to the nature of threads theyv stooped, entered into arguments. a public thread isnt how it should of been done but a full forum where they have an info page dedicated to info or dis info as some see, and then a support thread for setup and a general discussions for us to have a good old game of word tennis slagging amt and each other to the hill. if we so wish.
so that is it im out only product related questions from now.
as we all should really
and not the when is it coming, where is it,
If you check the thread all the way back from post 1, you'll see that I haven't said anything bad specifically about AMT or any of there staff, here or on the phone, yes may have mentioned the circumstances being what they are and even they've mentioned it forcing certain undesirable things to happen, but I've tried to help and guide them and their customers. I have plenty of PM's and some of you on this thread already know this.
In addition, they already know me well and I am also one of oldest if not the oldest multiple 1.2's orders here from early Oct '13. As an early supporter / customer, I think I should be able to state in my words of what I feel makes a product and an upgrade.
If an upgrade is supplied and its added to unit and the unit doesn't work then AMT are liable for upgrade and unit. If they feel that's a risk, then it has to be a back to base for the upgrade, they'll need to support either way, if they plan on selling and supporting upgrades, anything not working after due to upgrade its really on them to fix it. It's a given they may force you to buy and apply new/additional fans and power supply and you have to do it, especially if it's self-service upgrade and if you don't sure its your fault then, but only then...these specific exceptions need to be spelled out, otherwise they'll need honor any fixes. In general consumer laws favor the customer in this regard, as they are being supplied the goods in fair working order.