[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 85.

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: spooderman on October 20, 2013, 03:32:39 PM

Luke, sorry for a n00b question, but seriously....

I haz bfl pr0ductz.

Stratum, GBT or Getwork? (I'm using bfgminer on ubuntu).

(Also, my miner just stops working all the time, the application crashes in terminal, or it just randomly fills the screen with gibberish and I have to close bfgminer and start again- anyone else get this? If I'm out I have to rush home in order to preserve my 1337 hashr4t3)

Stratum for now. I'll get back to finishing GBT up later.

spooderman

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Luke, sorry for a n00b question, but seriously....

I haz bfl pr0ductz.

Stratum, GBT or Getwork? (I'm using bfgminer on ubuntu).

(Also, my miner just stops working all the time, the application crashes in terminal, or it just randomly fills the screen with gibberish and I have to close bfgminer and start again- anyone else get this? If I'm out I have to rush home in order to preserve my 1337 hashr4t3)

jimmy3dita

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Hello guys, I'm experiencing a strange issue: my KNC connects to the pool but shortly after (about 1 minute) I got a " Waiting for work to be available from pools." error and the mining stops completely.

Switching pool everything is fine. I tried both the ports 3333 and 3334.

This happened after over a week of full throttle mining, without any problems at all...

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: jamesg on October 19, 2013, 03:44:24 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 19, 2013, 03:06:19 PM

Can't hurt. Eligius doesn't pay for stale shares, but cgminer doesn't detect stale shares correctly anyway.

Could you please explain further? Specifically how cgminer doesn't do this correctly.

With getwork (and GBT?), it assumes a work update (longpoll) always makes the previous job(s) stale. Result: cgminer thinks shares are stale that aren't.
With stratum, it doesn't act on work updates unless the server tells it previous jobs are now stale. Result: cgminer keeps mining jobs long after they've been replaced, getting close to (and possibly beyond) their expiration time.

There is in fact no reliable way for mining software to know when previous jobs are in fact stale.
Stratum provides a hint, which works in one case (but not others). GBT also provides hints that cover some other cases (but not the one case stratum hints about).
BFGMiner will take these hints into account, but otherwise only assumes a job is stale if the previous-block-hash has changed (ie, the job is considered globally stale to the Bitcoin network).

jamesg

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AKA: gigavps

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 19, 2013, 03:06:19 PM

Can't hurt. Eligius doesn't pay for stale shares, but cgminer doesn't detect stale shares correctly anyway.

Could you please explain further? Specifically how cgminer doesn't do this correctly.

Thanks,
James

soapmodem

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Thanks for getting back to me. I'll leave no-submit-stale set to false then.

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: soapmodem on October 19, 2013, 02:54:50 PM

Quick question: Can we / should we set cgminer to submit stale shares here? Do they count?

Thanks.

Can't hurt. Eligius doesn't pay for stale shares, but cgminer doesn't detect stale shares correctly anyway.

soapmodem

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Quick question: Can we / should we set cgminer to submit stale shares here? Do they count?

Thanks.

movellan

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Quote from: GrapeApe on October 16, 2013, 02:39:51 PM

Latency becomes an issue when you solo mine and you have to make sure it is all set up correctly otherwise you could be working on old work and never solve a block(I hope I said that right).

Could you explain this concept a little more, perhaps with examples for use in BFGMiner? TIA.

PS: Please, anyone, feel free to comment on this idea.

HellDiverUK

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Quote from: plethora on October 17, 2013, 02:00:25 PM

What's up with the timezone on the My Eligius stats page? Seems to be GMT. How can I change it to CET?

Move to civilisation. Tongue

donut

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Thanks for the reply, that cleared things up a bit.

briguy37

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Quote from: donut on October 16, 2013, 02:51:14 PM

So what's the deal with "maximum reward"? Is that money ever coming to me? I just sold all my mining rigs, and my "maximum reward" is 0.14 BTC more than "everpaid", with balance = 0.

You might, but it depends on the luck of the pool. Your "missing" coin is in shelved shares right now. Each lucky block will unbury some shelved shares (and maybe get to some of yours), while each unlucky block will pile more shelved shares on top of yours. See the CPPSRB page for more info:

http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Capped_PPS_with_Recent_Backpay

plethora

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What's up with the timezone on the My Eligius stats page? Seems to be GMT. How can I change it to CET?

donut

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Quote from: donut on October 16, 2013, 02:51:14 PM

So what's the deal with "maximum reward"? Is that money ever coming to me? I just sold all my mining rigs, and my "maximum reward" is 0.14 BTC more than "everpaid", with balance = 0.

Can someone please answer this?

FeedbackLoop

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Quote from: 600watt on October 16, 2013, 02:57:44 PM

Quote from: GrapeApe on October 16, 2013, 02:39:51 PM

Quote from: 600watt on October 16, 2013, 09:57:17 AM

started mit my jupiters 4 days ago on eligius.

my miners have found 3 blocks so far...

You are mining at about 3200 GH/s...

splendid answer, thank you !

Heh! Mined 2 blocks for the pool with one single jupiter so far (for a small fraction of it of course).

Thanks for all the hard work keeping things stable wizkid! This pool rocks!

wizkid057

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Greetings miners,

Sorry for the lack of posts, I've been busy all around with pool and non-pool projects.

Biggest thing has been this annoying stratum application layer DoS that we've been getting hit with periodically. I've gotten an upstream trigger and filtering system in place for it, and it works, but sometimes takes up to a minute to kick in, lagging stratum connections in the meantime. A minute isn't all that bad, considering, but, I'm working on finding a better solution.

I migrated services off of one of my dedicated servers (not pool related) and consolidated them with another server (also not pool related) to make room for more power for the pool.
I've added this server on as additional handling for stratum connections, and it seems to be working nicely so far. In an effort to not disconnect anyone I've just let it be and I figure eventually my load balancing setup will balance it across both servers pretty evenly.

I'll be making improvements to the stats and such in the near future also, mostly related to individual worker stats and worker-down notification stuff.

Stay tuned, and thanks for mining!

-wk

http://abitcoin.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40

600watt

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Quote from: GrapeApe on October 16, 2013, 02:39:51 PM

Quote from: 600watt on October 16, 2013, 09:57:17 AM

started mit my jupiters 4 days ago on eligius.

my miners have found 3 blocks so far. Shocked

eligius has paid me

"everpaid" 26.46

"unpaid + everpaid" = 31.32

but: "maximum reward" 36.84

will i get maximum reward ever ? why is the spread so large ? (it seems to be smaller with other pool members)

does this further mean i would sit on 75 btc if i had mined alone and is this (bad) luck ?

You are mining at about 3200 GH/s so if you were solo mining at the previous difficulty (it just went up) you would generate a block every 3 days. Now this is an estimate it may take you 5 days to solve a block and then 1 day for the next this refers to variance (or luck as some call it). So NO chances are you would not be sitting on 75 BTC more likely you would have solved one block by yourself and be sitting on 25 BTC but who knows the variance could work in your favor and you could have more. Latency becomes an issue when you solo mine and you have to make sure it is all set up correctly otherwise you could be working on old work and never solve a block(I hope I said that right). We (the pool) are all being served work and work served to someone else is work you don't have to do so I wouldn't look at it as you (your miner) solved three blocks but rather the pool did. Based on my math you should have about 33.6 BTC with 3200 GH/s for 4 days, so when you figure some variance (luck if you so desire) you are right where you should be. Pooled mining doesn't cut into your income (except for fees and there are none here) it cuts down on your variance, your income over a given period of time would be the same whether you are pool mining or solo mining.

splendid answer, thank you !

donut

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So what's the deal with "maximum reward"? Is that money ever coming to me? I just sold all my mining rigs, and my "maximum reward" is 0.14 BTC more than "everpaid", with balance = 0.

GrapeApe

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Quote from: 600watt on October 16, 2013, 09:57:17 AM

started mit my jupiters 4 days ago on eligius.

my miners have found 3 blocks so far. Shocked

eligius has paid me

"everpaid" 26.46

"unpaid + everpaid" = 31.32

but: "maximum reward" 36.84

will i get maximum reward ever ? why is the spread so large ? (it seems to be smaller with other pool members)

does this further mean i would sit on 75 btc if i had mined alone and is this (bad) luck ?

You are mining at about 3200 GH/s so if you were solo mining at the previous difficulty (it just went up) you would generate a block every 3 days. Now this is an estimate it may take you 5 days to solve a block and then 1 day for the next this refers to variance (or luck as some call it). So NO chances are you would not be sitting on 75 BTC more likely you would have solved one block by yourself and be sitting on 25 BTC but who knows the variance could work in your favor and you could have more. Latency becomes an issue when you solo mine and you have to make sure it is all set up correctly otherwise you could be working on old work and never solve a block(I hope I said that right). We (the pool) are all being served work and work served to someone else is work you don't have to do so I wouldn't look at it as you (your miner) solved three blocks but rather the pool did. Based on my math you should have about 33.6 BTC with 3200 GH/s for 4 days, so when you figure some variance (luck if you so desire) you are right where you should be. Pooled mining doesn't cut into your income (except for fees and there are none here) it cuts down on your variance, your income over a given period of time would be the same whether you are pool mining or solo mining.

2GOOD

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Quote from: 600watt on October 16, 2013, 09:57:17 AM

started mit my jupiters 4 days ago on eligius.

my miners have found 3 blocks so far. Shocked

eligius has paid me

"everpaid" 26.46

"unpaid + everpaid" = 31.32

but: "maximum reward" 36.84

will i get maximum reward ever ? why is the spread so large ? (it seems to be smaller with other pool members)

does this further mean i would sit on 75 btc if i had mined alone and is this (bad) luck ?

If you "solo" mine you get entirely different work (hashes) to do, so you never know how many blocks u'll get. In long term you have the chance to get to 100% PPS - in ur case 36.84

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I want to ask what happens with very fast blocks like this one:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blockinfo.php/00000000000000102a7ba5525c92d9da2e1861522585ca928b3067ca4c6827d9

I think they are not accounted by the stats system, what is the procedure with them?!

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