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Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 96. (Read 458255 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
I can confirm that I made way more with this pool than any other pool I have tried (on daily basis income), I was switching and trying pools since January, Eligius and MTRed (not operating any more) were two of the best pools when it came to the long term rewards.

the only thing I was annoyed about was the poor stats and the long confirmations as discussed before, but my miners were constantly happy mining,  wizikid promised that he will improve the stats, if you want to see better stats you just need to donate some of your income, so he can take time for coding.

I sold my miners and I am waiting for new hardware to come, but I wouldn't change this pool if I would be in your place, regardless that I had some argument with wizikid and LukeJr I have to admit that this pool is the one to go with.


this is only my 0.02BTC

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
...  I am mining on guild now ...

Eventually I'll have to gather up my simulation data that essentially proves that people make more with Eligius... Smiley

I'm sure they do, but why it feel so slow some times:(
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
...  I am mining on guild now ...

Eventually I'll have to gather up my simulation data that essentially proves that people make more with Eligius... Smiley
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
The last 60 days have shown the worst overall luck since the CPPSRB system was put in place I believe. Sad

Without actually trying to predict things, I can point out that over the long term Eligius has had around 98% luck, which is pretty good overall for any pool.  So, I would expect that in the long term you will get 98% PPS for the shares submitted to Eligius. As in, eventually: all_time_payout / (all_time_payout+shelved)) = 98%.  It is expected that everyone will, on average, always have some small % of shelved shares left due to variance.  Sometimes in the short term all will be paid, and sometimes in the short term there will be a large % of shelved.  But in the end, it tends to balance out.

Now, I will point out that since all of your addresses are inactive there are many many shares ahead of yours in the share log by now (we just had a round with 503 million shares...).  CPPSRB's long term average is more likely for someone who continuously mines.  So, your personal average has less of a change to approach 100% PPS because your shelved shares are behind millions of active miner's shelved shares.  Since the share log is paid in a last in first out order (effectively prioritizing active miners) it could be a very long time before you see any of your shelved shares paid, especially with Eligius constantly growing.

This is not saying that if you start mining again those shelved shares will have a better chance of being paid.  It just means that if you had mined continuously your long term average would end up closer to 100% quicker.

-wk

Thank you for the explanation.  I am mining on guild now, but not because of your support which has always been top notch.
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
I have about 8 bitcoins shelved since I stopped mining in the first week of August.  I realized shelved shares are not owed, but man this really sucks.  I thought by now you guys would have had a run of luck that would have paid those out Sad 

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/15Kf5urM2RPMuD9cKkPtUqEpVqG4AEk4hh 
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1H6ZtXgen6yaK45p5X1F5kvgZiKVQJ7iR5
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Lmuvne9YdNhuEHoW74awyRYbi9GbR3vAo
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/12EB7gT9uL959auoDzdC9zEM5uNyNcRLp4
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1DiKDSKZFLFSJgE1AvRWsu8mAcFDydpmc1

Is there any hope they will ever be paid out now? This is quite a hit.  Thanks.

I thought shelved shares didn't really exist?  I also thought shelved shares were only paid out if you were still mining?  I've only seen shelved shares being paid while I was actively mining on Eligius, and when luck was high (IE not now, luck seems terrible at the moment).


The shelved shares numbers on the stats are just informative to show you how many shares you have that are not currently in the top 25 BTC of the CPPSRB share log.

Shelved shares can be rewarded regardless of whether or not you're mining, although you will always have shares in or near the top of the share log while you're actively mining.

The pool has had a pretty bad run of luck in the short term.  Hopefully things pick up.

-wk

When you say short term, do you mean the last 1-2 months?  I realize you can't promise anything, nor will I hold you to it.  But, do you think in the next year or so it will be likely that these shares will get paid out?

The last 60 days have shown the worst overall luck since the CPPSRB system was put in place I believe. Sad

Without actually trying to predict things, I can point out that over the long term Eligius has had around 98% luck, which is pretty good overall for any pool.  So, I would expect that in the long term you will get 98% PPS for the shares submitted to Eligius. As in, eventually: all_time_payout / (all_time_payout+shelved)) = 98%.  It is expected that everyone will, on average, always have some small % of shelved shares left due to variance.  Sometimes in the short term all will be paid, and sometimes in the short term there will be a large % of shelved.  But in the end, it tends to balance out.

Now, I will point out that since all of your addresses are inactive there are many many shares ahead of yours in the share log by now (we just had a round with 503 million shares...).  CPPSRB's long term average is more likely for someone who continuously mines.  So, your personal average has less of a change to approach 100% PPS because your shelved shares are behind millions of active miner's shelved shares.  Since the share log is paid in a last in first out order (effectively prioritizing active miners) it could be a very long time before you see any of your shelved shares paid, especially with Eligius constantly growing.

This is not saying that if you start mining again those shelved shares will have a better chance of being paid.  It just means that if you had mined continuously your long term average would end up closer to 100% quicker.

-wk
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I have about 8 bitcoins shelved since I stopped mining in the first week of August.  I realized shelved shares are not owed, but man this really sucks.  I thought by now you guys would have had a run of luck that would have paid those out Sad 

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/15Kf5urM2RPMuD9cKkPtUqEpVqG4AEk4hh 
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1H6ZtXgen6yaK45p5X1F5kvgZiKVQJ7iR5
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Lmuvne9YdNhuEHoW74awyRYbi9GbR3vAo
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/12EB7gT9uL959auoDzdC9zEM5uNyNcRLp4
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1DiKDSKZFLFSJgE1AvRWsu8mAcFDydpmc1

Is there any hope they will ever be paid out now? This is quite a hit.  Thanks.

I thought shelved shares didn't really exist?  I also thought shelved shares were only paid out if you were still mining?  I've only seen shelved shares being paid while I was actively mining on Eligius, and when luck was high (IE not now, luck seems terrible at the moment).


The shelved shares numbers on the stats are just informative to show you how many shares you have that are not currently in the top 25 BTC of the CPPSRB share log.

Shelved shares can be rewarded regardless of whether or not you're mining, although you will always have shares in or near the top of the share log while you're actively mining.

The pool has had a pretty bad run of luck in the short term.  Hopefully things pick up.

-wk

When you say short term, do you mean the last 1-2 months?  I realize you can't promise anything, nor will I hold you to it.  But, do you think in the next year or so it will be likely that these shares will get paid out?
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
I have about 8 bitcoins shelved since I stopped mining in the first week of August.  I realized shelved shares are not owed, but man this really sucks.  I thought by now you guys would have had a run of luck that would have paid those out Sad 

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/15Kf5urM2RPMuD9cKkPtUqEpVqG4AEk4hh 
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1H6ZtXgen6yaK45p5X1F5kvgZiKVQJ7iR5
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Lmuvne9YdNhuEHoW74awyRYbi9GbR3vAo
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/12EB7gT9uL959auoDzdC9zEM5uNyNcRLp4
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1DiKDSKZFLFSJgE1AvRWsu8mAcFDydpmc1

Is there any hope they will ever be paid out now? This is quite a hit.  Thanks.

I thought shelved shares didn't really exist?  I also thought shelved shares were only paid out if you were still mining?  I've only seen shelved shares being paid while I was actively mining on Eligius, and when luck was high (IE not now, luck seems terrible at the moment).


The shelved shares numbers on the stats are just informative to show you how many shares you have that are not currently in the top 25 BTC of the CPPSRB share log.

Shelved shares can be rewarded regardless of whether or not you're mining, although you will always have shares in or near the top of the share log while you're actively mining.

The pool has had a pretty bad run of luck in the short term.  Hopefully things pick up.

-wk
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
I thought shelved shares didn't really exist?  I also thought shelved shares were only paid out if you were still mining?  I've only seen shelved shares being paid while I was actively mining on Eligius, and when luck was high (IE not now, luck seems terrible at the moment).
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I have about 8 bitcoins shelved since I stopped mining in the first week of August.  I realized shelved shares are not owed, but man this really sucks.  I thought by now you guys would have had a run of luck that would have paid those out Sad 

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/15Kf5urM2RPMuD9cKkPtUqEpVqG4AEk4hh 
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1H6ZtXgen6yaK45p5X1F5kvgZiKVQJ7iR5
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Lmuvne9YdNhuEHoW74awyRYbi9GbR3vAo
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/12EB7gT9uL959auoDzdC9zEM5uNyNcRLp4
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1DiKDSKZFLFSJgE1AvRWsu8mAcFDydpmc1

Is there any hope they will ever be paid out now? This is quite a hit.  Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Has anyone else had any trouble getting Armory to sign messages? I have it working in Armory and verifying the signature, but can't get My Eligius to accept it.

I had the same issue with Armory. Gave up and switched wallets -- qt works fine for me.

Currently only bitcoind/bitcoin-qt signed messages are supported.  MtGox's old signature system is supported for MtGox deposit addresses, but seems to be temporarily down (on their end).



On a side note, I've *finally* implemented the back end support for the customized minimum payout setting of the My Eligius options configuration page.  The setting will generally take effect within 30 minutes.  The payout queue will reflect the changes accordingly, as well as the estimates on the right side of the userstats page.

More to come!

-wk

Great work, I see that it is working already, I did enter the queue with a bit less than 0.167BTC , I sold my ASIC to make room for the new hardware, But I will mine again on this pool for sure.
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Has anyone else had any trouble getting Armory to sign messages? I have it working in Armory and verifying the signature, but can't get My Eligius to accept it.

I had the same issue with Armory. Gave up and switched wallets -- qt works fine for me.

Currently only bitcoind/bitcoin-qt signed messages are supported.  MtGox's old signature system is supported for MtGox deposit addresses, but seems to be temporarily down (on their end).



On a side note, I've *finally* implemented the back end support for the customized minimum payout setting of the My Eligius options configuration page.  The setting will generally take effect within 30 minutes.  The payout queue will reflect the changes accordingly, as well as the estimates on the right side of the userstats page.

More to come!

-wk
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Has anyone else had any trouble getting Armory to sign messages? I have it working in Armory and verifying the signature, but can't get My Eligius to accept it.

I had the same issue with Armory. Gave up and switched wallets -- qt works fine for me.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Has anyone else had any trouble getting Armory to sign messages? I have it working in Armory and verifying the signature, but can't get My Eligius to accept it.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
The website has very little to do with the operation of the pool. 
hero member
Activity: 1492
Merit: 763
Life is a taxable event
This has been my favorite pool so far, I'm back on it and I hope it works just fine.

Is the website down or the whole pool?
Am I mining in vain?
sr. member
Activity: 358
Merit: 250
Is the website down again?  My miners are fine (or appear to be) but I can't access the site!
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Amazing fast response.
If i might give a hint, just show in red text above the payouts that mining is working, updating the stats report. (to be done by x-x-x)
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
I just got my first NMC payout. What's the deal here? Is there a threshold?

NMC payouts are semi-manual right now.  I'm making sure the code is solid before allowing it to run automatically.  So, they will be kind of random for the moment.



is there a problem with payouts today? hnot seen a single one all day, and payout chart has stopped, hashing still shows (128s,256s so on shows hasing) but estimated total has stopped also. (seen for other addresses aswell)
Some parts of the Stats seem to be frozen in time...

The stats went kind of crazy (again) last night.  I'm working on rebuilding the data for the past few days to make sure that everything is like it's supposed to be.  Doing some updates and such to improve stability also. Should be done in the next hour or so.  I'll point out again that the stats are not directly involved in the actual mining pool side of things, so, mining will always work correctly regardless of how the stats are behaving.



Many invalid blocks omg

Stats glitch. See above.



I have an uncofirmed payment of 0.17904672BTC from the pool. Is the payment module having trouble broadcasting transactions?  I'm using inputs.io as my wallet.

My wallet is 18BizrvSCFp2UjsCnZnJseJq759xeW24m4

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000b3e0c4a6af019cace28d9b4cb8154e20ff9fad3d465cdac70

It looks like you were paid in coinbase transaction 0c0d22e5117ba22a40aacb8557fdbe9d7fb3f34d7beed8878905347a95403401.  This payment appears to also have been spent.

-wk
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
Some parts of the Stats seem to be frozen in time...
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
is there a problem with payouts today? hnot seen a single one all day, and payout chart has stopped, hashing still shows (128s,256s so on shows hasing) but estimated total has stopped also. (seen for other addresses aswell)
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