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Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 97. (Read 458370 times)

sr. member
Activity: 267
Merit: 250
Learn to go against your mind
Many invalid blocks omg
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
I just got my first NMC payout. What's the deal here? Is there a threshold?
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
I have an uncofirmed payment of 0.17904672BTC from the pool. Is the payment module having trouble broadcasting transactions?  I'm using inputs.io as my wallet.

My wallet is 18BizrvSCFp2UjsCnZnJseJq759xeW24m4

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000b3e0c4a6af019cace28d9b4cb8154e20ff9fad3d465cdac70
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
So, what's wrong with Google Translate?  From most of the crap documentation that comes with Chinese stuff, it's obviously how the Chinese translate stuff to English.  Or is that Ingrish?

i speak english and mandarin so I think i can answer your question.

basically, the language structure for english and mandarin is quite different.
furthermore, while i don't know the mechanics of the translation engine, 1 word in mandarin can have 1 or more ways of reading it and they can have vastly different meanings, so translating it without understanding the context is recipe for disaster


just look for all the bad english signs/menus in china and you get the idea.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1186
even Luke-Jr didn't get this mad and I know i pushed it a bit  Smiley
That's just because it's hard to get me mad. It doesn't mean I think your comments were anything but dead wrong.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
Luke and wizkid, I have used this pool for 90% of my mining. Initially I used bitminter because I couldn't figure out how to mine without their java(script?) miner.

Love it, really appreciate it, donate (only 0.3%) of my earnings back to the pool. (0.1% to each of the options available).

Thank you very much.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
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Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Servers hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.

OK Mr. knowledge, you want to tell me that you are not making any money of the pool ? you take us as retards or what? and yet you want to charge a fee!! PPLNS charge almost to nothing, and most pools that charge fees have a great statistics and user friendly Interface, worker down notification, two-factor authentication great charts and some have more merged coins .......

now telling my point of view is trolling ? why didn't you consider this as some kind of suggestion ? 




Um... since when does 0% * anything = making money?  Basic math.  I would love to know where all this money I make off the pool you speak of is coming from since you seem to know everything.

The only thing I ever get from the pool are payments from my own mining efforts, like everyone else.  Counting funds I have personally contributed towards hosting and such I think I'm actually at a net loss even after my own personal mining payouts.

Again, know what you're talking about before you speak, troll.

-wk


so when a round is lucky lets say we submit only 10,000 share to find a block, logicly you will pay only for that, and the rest goes to your pocket. when long "unlucky" rounds appears, you save the extra shares that the 25 BTC cant cover as "Shelved Shares" and when a lucky round appears you pay the shelved shares and the rest(if any) goes to your pocket.

now this was my understanding to CPPSRB, I apologize if I understood it in a wrong way, I tried to read the wiki twice, so care to correct what I said if I am wrong


and please stop calling troll game, it is really childish....... try to build a productive conversation with me !

How can I have a productive conversation when all you want to do is attack my work and efforts and attempt to spread misinformation?

You prove you do not know what you're talking about because that is not how CPPSRB works. When the round is lucky the excess, in its entirety, pays older shares (shelved) and this is obvious as every block directly pays miners the full 25 BTC with little exception.

I am not attacking your work at all, I was suggesting some things but you fall on a defense position right away, and your answers had an angry accent, I pointed that I appreciated your work and that I would like to donate if you will put a better interface (but you didn't read that), and I said that you cant charge me fees because basically you are not offering anything near what the big pools that charge fees are offering.

about the CPPSRB, maybe I misunderstood the system, I will take some time and read about the concept again....

there is no reason to get pissed off, even if I maybe your "enemy" and If I maybe an asshole you try to be better then me Smiley  even Luke-Jr didn't get this mad and I know i pushed it a bit  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
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Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Servers hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.

OK Mr. knowledge, you want to tell me that you are not making any money of the pool ? you take us as retards or what? and yet you want to charge a fee!! PPLNS charge almost to nothing, and most pools that charge fees have a great statistics and user friendly Interface, worker down notification, two-factor authentication great charts and some have more merged coins .......

now telling my point of view is trolling ? why didn't you consider this as some kind of suggestion ? 




Um... since when does 0% * anything = making money?  Basic math.  I would love to know where all this money I make off the pool you speak of is coming from since you seem to know everything.

The only thing I ever get from the pool are payments from my own mining efforts, like everyone else.  Counting funds I have personally contributed towards hosting and such I think I'm actually at a net loss even after my own personal mining payouts.

Again, know what you're talking about before you speak, troll.

-wk


so when a round is lucky lets say we submit only 10,000 share to find a block, logicly you will pay only for that, and the rest goes to your pocket. when long "unlucky" rounds appears, you save the extra shares that the 25 BTC cant cover as "Shelved Shares" and when a lucky round appears you pay the shelved shares and the rest(if any) goes to your pocket.

now this was my understanding to CPPSRB, I apologize if I understood it in a wrong way, I tried to read the wiki twice, so care to correct what I said if I am wrong


and please stop calling troll game, it is really childish....... try to build a productive conversation with me !

How can I have a productive conversation when all you want to do is attack my work and efforts and attempt to spread misinformation?

You prove you do not know what you're talking about because that is not how CPPSRB works. When the round is lucky the excess, in its entirety, pays older shares (shelved) and this is obvious as every block directly pays miners the full 25 BTC with little exception.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Quote
Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Servers hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.

OK Mr. knowledge, you want to tell me that you are not making any money of the pool ? you take us as retards or what? and yet you want to charge a fee!! PPLNS charge almost to nothing, and most pools that charge fees have a great statistics and user friendly Interface, worker down notification, two-factor authentication great charts and some have more merged coins .......

now telling my point of view is trolling ? why didn't you consider this as some kind of suggestion ? 




Um... since when does 0% * anything = making money?  Basic math.  I would love to know where all this money I make off the pool you speak of is coming from since you seem to know everything.

The only thing I ever get from the pool are payments from my own mining efforts, like everyone else.  Counting funds I have personally contributed towards hosting and such I think I'm actually at a net loss even after my own personal mining payouts.

Again, know what you're talking about before you speak, troll.

-wk


so when a round is lucky lets say we submit only 10,000 share to find a block, logicly you will pay only for that, and the rest goes to your pocket. when long "unlucky" rounds appears, you save the extra shares that the 25 BTC cant cover as "Shelved Shares" and when a lucky round appears you pay the shelved shares and the rest(if any) goes to your pocket.

now this was my understanding to CPPSRB, I apologize if I understood it in a wrong way, I tried to read the wiki twice, so care to correct what I said if I am wrong


and please stop calling troll game, it is really childish....... try to build a productive conversation with me !
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Quote
Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Servers hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.

OK Mr. knowledge, you want to tell me that you are not making any money of the pool ? you take us as retards or what? and yet you want to charge a fee!! PPLNS charge almost to nothing, and most pools that charge fees have a great statistics and user friendly Interface, worker down notification, two-factor authentication great charts and some have more merged coins .......

now telling my point of view is trolling ? why didn't you consider this as some kind of suggestion ? 




Um... since when does 0% * anything = making money?  Basic math.  I would love to know where all this money I make off the pool you speak of is coming from since you seem to know everything.

The only thing I ever get from the pool are payments from my own mining efforts, like everyone else.  Counting funds I have personally contributed towards hosting and such I think I'm actually at a net loss even after my own personal mining payouts.

Again, know what you're talking about before you speak, troll.

-wk
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Quote
Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Servers hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.

OK Mr. knowledge, you want to tell me that you are not making any money of the pool ? you take us as retards or what? and yet you want to charge a fee!! PPLNS charge almost to nothing, and most pools that charge fees have a great statistics and user friendly Interface, worker down notification, two-factor authentication great charts and some have more merged coins .......

now telling my point of view is trolling ? why didn't you consider this as some kind of suggestion ? 


legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Do you really spend that much less than 0.16 BTC per purchase?

I agree Luke,

But when the diff starts hitting 150m+ people are going to want to pay payout 0.00001  Smiley
That's going to make for stupidly high transaction fees when they go to spend them.


but what if my choice is to have my funds in my wallet even if it is 0.01 , and what if I decide to quit mining on this pool for any reason ? do I have to give up a week of mining rewards ? this will be so high after a couple of retargets ! automatic payment amount should be a choice not an obligation, if you want to keep it this way than activate free manually  payments each 24 hours.
Except the pool pays out the balance if you stop mining.

So you take this personally ? your argument is totally invalid this is not enough, we still need to adjust the minimum automatic payments our selves, and a free manual payment each 24 hour wouldn't heart, it is about what I would like to do with my funds not what works only for you !!! and yes 0.01 is important for me it is a Principe it doesn't matter how much it is 1000 or 0.1 BTC...... I did notice in most your post that you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side !!!! you have to cut that ego a bit, it is gonna heart you at some point.....  
Um, what? I'm not anti-improvements at all, no idea how you could possibly get that idea when I'm directly responsible for some of the biggest improvements...
wizkid057 is making minimum payout configurable, but it takes time; my point was just that your desire for 0.01 BTC payouts is silly.
Manual payouts on demand are pretty much out of the question though. That would mean the server needs a wallet, which creates significant unnecessary security risks.
you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side most of the time you stand on defense for improvements that doesn't come from your side, and it is hard to convince you or work with you...... that you are developing one of the biggest miners is something and your character and attitudes are another thing......

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Eligius takes no % of the mined subsidy


you do not need to take any fee when using CPPSRB, no one is taking any risk here, mostly PPS pools take a big fee, and any way you still make an amount of BTC depending on your luck.....

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Personally, I must first dedicate my time to my full-time employment and my bit of paid contract work (nothing bitcoin related).  I also have a fiance, a very mild social life, and a slew of other real world obligations to attend to

we all have, I have 4 kids and a hard IT operation job that it never ends, but when I do something I like to do it right.


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In any case, I just want to make it clear that Eligius isn't a huge for-profit pool with staff working on it full time.  We do our best to keep everything together and running smoothly and continue to improve at a steady pace, even without cutting into your (the miner's) earnings.  To me, this is one of the main things that makes Eligius the best possible pool to use.  I'm even working on code to fairly distribute transaction fees mined by the pool to miners also, since our original hosting agreement no longer applies, which will ensure that Eligius keeps a competitive edge. (more on this soon).


your work is really appreciated and I would like to donate when I see a better interface, but putting a mining fee is like charging me 100$ for a shitty coffee.

 I would like to help make things better, I will keep mining here....





Most of your post makes no sense whatsoever and I'm ashamed I'm once again feeding the troll...

Since what I can make out from your response basically proves you know nothing, I will end this by pointing out that most other pool reward systems are no-risk to the pool also, yet those pools charge a fee. For example, PPLNS carries no pool risk, yet some pools still charge high fees for it. Technically PPS can be no risk because the pool can simply shutdown before actually "risking" anything as history has proven.

Server hardware and hosting/bandwidth are not free regardless of what mining reward system is used.

So stop trolling and wasting everyone's time.
sr. member
Activity: 281
Merit: 250

You need to copy the contents of the first line in to the "Sign Message" box in Bitcoin-QT, then copy the string of characters it produces in to the second line on the Eligius form.

Och offcourse. I feel sooo stupid !! I thought signing was just cut copy paste the line above. But now you metion real signing i get it.
Thank you very much !
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501

Change my nickname to what i want. Put in my BTC-e Namecoin adres and i see the line i have to sign with in the form directly below.
I copy the line and paste it with CTRL-V in the empty line and punch in submit.


You need to copy the contents of the first line in to the "Sign Message" box in Bitcoin-QT, then copy the string of characters it produces in to the second line on the Eligius form.
sr. member
Activity: 281
Merit: 250
Hello Everybody,

First of all : Luke Thx for this pool / all the work you are doing and ofcourse praises to WizKid057
Been mining for 2 weeks now and like the pool and the CPPSRB strategy

Now for something i can't seem to get to work.
Ón the My Eligius page i log in with my wallet adres, yadieyadieya.

Change my nickname to what i want. Put in my BTC-e Namecoin adres and i see the line i have to sign with in the form directly below.
I copy the line and paste it with CTRL-V in the empty line and punch in submit.

As i read it can take up to one hour to reflect the changes, but i tried it about 20 times now starting a week ago.
I dont see my chosen nickname , nor do i receive NMC's on my wallet at BTC-e

What am i doing wrong. Is the panel still in beta and not working and do i have to pass my NMC adres and Nickname some other way ?
People are saying namecoin is working and i see some nicknames when i browse to the user statistics . So people are able to pass these things somehow and i'm doning something wrong ;(

I'm mining now with 10Gh but next week or in 2 weeks i will add 1Th and would like the NMC to work and have a nice nickname to reflect my mining 8P

Thx for the help
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501

Thank you to everyone who mines here, everyone who has donated (or even pledged a small donation % in the new control panel that isn't in effect yet), developers who have helped out, etc.  We're steadily growing and I think we have a great thing going here.  Lets keep it up.


And thank you for making the effort.  It's much appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Do you really spend that much less than 0.16 BTC per purchase?

I agree Luke,

But when the diff starts hitting 150m+ people are going to want to pay payout 0.00001  Smiley
That's going to make for stupidly high transaction fees when they go to spend them.


but what if my choice is to have my funds in my wallet even if it is 0.01 , and what if I decide to quit mining on this pool for any reason ? do I have to give up a week of mining rewards ? this will be so high after a couple of retargets ! automatic payment amount should be a choice not an obligation, if you want to keep it this way than activate free manually  payments each 24 hours.
Except the pool pays out the balance if you stop mining.

So you take this personally ? your argument is totally invalid this is not enough, we still need to adjust the minimum automatic payments our selves, and a free manual payment each 24 hour wouldn't heart, it is about what I would like to do with my funds not what works only for you !!! and yes 0.01 is important for me it is a Principe it doesn't matter how much it is 1000 or 0.1 BTC...... I did notice in most your post that you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side !!!! you have to cut that ego a bit, it is gonna heart you at some point.....  
Um, what? I'm not anti-improvements at all, no idea how you could possibly get that idea when I'm directly responsible for some of the biggest improvements...
wizkid057 is making minimum payout configurable, but it takes time; my point was just that your desire for 0.01 BTC payouts is silly.
Manual payouts on demand are pretty much out of the question though. That would mean the server needs a wallet, which creates significant unnecessary security risks.
you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side most of the time you stand on defense for improvements that doesn't come from your side, and it is hard to convince you or work with you...... that you are developing one of the biggest miners is something and your character and attitudes are another thing......

Quote
Eligius takes no % of the mined subsidy


you do not need to take any fee when using CPPSRB, no one is taking any risk here, mostly PPS pools take a big fee, and any way you still make an amount of BTC depending on your luck.....

Quote
Personally, I must first dedicate my time to my full-time employment and my bit of paid contract work (nothing bitcoin related).  I also have a fiance, a very mild social life, and a slew of other real world obligations to attend to

we all have, I have 4 kids and a hard IT operation job that it never ends, but when I do something I like to do it right.


Quote
In any case, I just want to make it clear that Eligius isn't a huge for-profit pool with staff working on it full time.  We do our best to keep everything together and running smoothly and continue to improve at a steady pace, even without cutting into your (the miner's) earnings.  To me, this is one of the main things that makes Eligius the best possible pool to use.  I'm even working on code to fairly distribute transaction fees mined by the pool to miners also, since our original hosting agreement no longer applies, which will ensure that Eligius keeps a competitive edge. (more on this soon).


your work is really appreciated and I would like to donate when I see a better interface, but putting a mining fee is like charging me 100$ for a shitty coffee.

 I would like to help make things better, I will keep mining here....



legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Do you really spend that much less than 0.16 BTC per purchase?

I agree Luke,

But when the diff starts hitting 150m+ people are going to want to pay payout 0.00001  Smiley
That's going to make for stupidly high transaction fees when they go to spend them.


but what if my choice is to have my funds in my wallet even if it is 0.01 , and what if I decide to quit mining on this pool for any reason ? do I have to give up a week of mining rewards ? this will be so high after a couple of retargets ! automatic payment amount should be a choice not an obligation, if you want to keep it this way than activate free manually  payments each 24 hours.
Except the pool pays out the balance if you stop mining.

So you take this personally ? your argument is totally invalid this is not enough, we still need to adjust the minimum automatic payments our selves, and a free manual payment each 24 hour wouldn't heart, it is about what I would like to do with my funds not what works only for you !!! and yes 0.01 is important for me it is a Principe it doesn't matter how much it is 1000 or 0.1 BTC...... I did notice in most your post that you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side !!!! you have to cut that ego a bit, it is gonna heart you at some point.....  
Um, what? I'm not anti-improvements at all, no idea how you could possibly get that idea when I'm directly responsible for some of the biggest improvements...
wizkid057 is making minimum payout configurable, but it takes time; my point was just that your desire for 0.01 BTC payouts is silly.
Manual payouts on demand are pretty much out of the question though. That would mean the server needs a wallet, which creates significant unnecessary security risks.

Not really a direct response to this, but should be noted: I think a lot of people fail to realize that nearly everything regarding Eligius is volunteer work or otherwise donated.  Eligius takes no % of the mined subsidy, and I think every other public pool does take at least some cut at the moment.  There are tons of improvements in the pipelines.  The problem is the lack of time to volunteer, as everyone has other obligations.  Personally, I must first dedicate my time to my full-time employment and my bit of paid contract work (nothing bitcoin related).  I also have a fiance, a very mild social life, and a slew of other real world obligations to attend to, similar to everyone else involved in the pool.  But, I'm always around working on one thing or another, procrastinating helping on IRC, answering the occasional support phone call (when I'm available), and more.

I have been trying to get the user control panel up and running for months now.  I did hunker down and get the panel itself up so that people could get their options saved and get NMC merged mining back in action, even if backend support is incomplete for most of them (as of this writing, only the NMC address for payments and the Nickname fields have any effect).  I'm sorry that its taking longer than anticipated to complete the backend code for these things, but, free time has been pretty scarce lately.  Even my recent vacation from my full-time job ended up being mostly filled with other work.

In any case, I just want to make it clear that Eligius isn't a huge for-profit pool with staff working on it full time.  We do our best to keep everything together and running smoothly and continue to improve at a steady pace, even without cutting into your (the miner's) earnings.  To me, this is one of the main things that makes Eligius the best possible pool to use.  I'm even working on code to fairly distribute transaction fees mined by the pool to miners also, since our original hosting agreement no longer applies, which will ensure that Eligius keeps a competitive edge. (more on this soon).

Thank you to everyone who mines here, everyone who has donated (or even pledged a small donation % in the new control panel that isn't in effect yet), developers who have helped out, etc.  We're steadily growing and I think we have a great thing going here.  Lets keep it up.

-wk

legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1186
Do you really spend that much less than 0.16 BTC per purchase?

I agree Luke,

But when the diff starts hitting 150m+ people are going to want to pay payout 0.00001  Smiley
That's going to make for stupidly high transaction fees when they go to spend them.


but what if my choice is to have my funds in my wallet even if it is 0.01 , and what if I decide to quit mining on this pool for any reason ? do I have to give up a week of mining rewards ? this will be so high after a couple of retargets ! automatic payment amount should be a choice not an obligation, if you want to keep it this way than activate free manually  payments each 24 hours.
Except the pool pays out the balance if you stop mining.

So you take this personally ? your argument is totally invalid this is not enough, we still need to adjust the minimum automatic payments our selves, and a free manual payment each 24 hour wouldn't heart, it is about what I would like to do with my funds not what works only for you !!! and yes 0.01 is important for me it is a Principe it doesn't matter how much it is 1000 or 0.1 BTC...... I did notice in most your post that you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side !!!! you have to cut that ego a bit, it is gonna heart you at some point.....  
Um, what? I'm not anti-improvements at all, no idea how you could possibly get that idea when I'm directly responsible for some of the biggest improvements...
wizkid057 is making minimum payout configurable, but it takes time; my point was just that your desire for 0.01 BTC payouts is silly.
Manual payouts on demand are pretty much out of the question though. That would mean the server needs a wallet, which creates significant unnecessary security risks.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Do you really spend that much less than 0.16 BTC per purchase?

I agree Luke,

But when the diff starts hitting 150m+ people are going to want to pay payout 0.00001  Smiley
That's going to make for stupidly high transaction fees when they go to spend them.


but what if my choice is to have my funds in my wallet even if it is 0.01 , and what if I decide to quit mining on this pool for any reason ? do I have to give up a week of mining rewards ? this will be so high after a couple of retargets ! automatic payment amount should be a choice not an obligation, if you want to keep it this way than activate free manually  payments each 24 hours.
Except the pool pays out the balance if you stop mining.

So you take this personally ? your argument is totally invalid this is not enough, we still need to adjust the minimum automatic payments our selves, and a free manual payment each 24 hour wouldn't heart, it is about what I would like to do with my funds not what works only for you !!! and yes 0.01 is important for me it is a Principe it doesn't matter how much it is 1000 or 0.1 BTC...... I did notice in most your post that you are anti-change or anti-improvements that doesn't come from your side !!!! you have to cut that ego a bit, it is gonna heart you at some point.....  
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