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legendary
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November 30, 2015, 04:42:39 PM
I have to be honest , I really dont like webwallets. Something just doesnt feel right with having someone else hold my money. Especially in crypto with all the mistrust. Altcoin steps did release a webwallet for FLY , but we are not affiliated with them. They decided on their own to create a webwallet for FLY.

Vegas
hero member
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November 30, 2015, 04:27:05 PM
Are you planning to launch an online wallet for new comers?

Basically I don't want to run the full node for every alt-coin I want to try.

My 1Tb hard drive is full with blocks from various coins (Bitcoin consuming the maximum part among them Tongue).

So please try to launch an online wallet.

Thanks.
copper member
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txbit.io - cryptocurrency exchange
November 30, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
Ok guys here is latest wallet V1.73 WITH test results!

https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Test results: https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Ok now, everyone download the wallet asap. I need to get the wallet to Crytopia, so until I confirm Crytopia has the wallet, please do not use the exchange. I Will post here once Crytopia has installed this version, and then you can begin using the exchange. This will be today.

Vegas

Can you give description of updated code, or have change log in here?

Change log is here: https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Code changes can be found on Github (as usual) https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/commit/77dfce5a516d5d8f12213ffd2fd413e059a84288
full member
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Viarium.io - DECENTRALIZED VR WORLD
November 30, 2015, 04:10:34 PM
Ok guys here is latest wallet V1.73 WITH test results!

https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Test results: https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Ok now, everyone download the wallet asap. I need to get the wallet to Crytopia, so until I confirm Crytopia has the wallet, please do not use the exchange. I Will post here once Crytopia has installed this version, and then you can begin using the exchange. This will be today.

Vegas

Can you give description of updated code, or have change log in here?
hero member
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Offer escrow, receive negative trust
November 30, 2015, 04:02:22 PM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink

Very mature response. You don't even know me. You know nothing about my background in crypto currencies. Again all the things I pointed out in my previous posts are just ignored. How sad is that?

I think this reply says enough about you already. Wake up and face reality man.

Dude...if you're out, can I have your FLY?
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
Ok guys here is latest wallet V1.73 WITH test results! (OP Updated)

https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/download/v1.7.3/FlyCoin-qt-1_7_3-windows.zip

Test results: https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/releases/tag/v1.7.3

Ok now, everyone download the wallet asap. I need to get the wallet to Crytopia, so until I confirm Crytopia has the wallet, please do not use the exchange. I Will post here once Crytopia has installed this version, and then you can begin using the exchange. This will be today.

Vegas
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
Same here. Took long enough already. You should have
reverted to yobit compatible source. You cant expect users to stop trading for a week because you screwed up. A temporary revert was at its place here. But you didnt. And as a dev myself, that is only a 1 hour job to do. Cryptopia is also not going anywhere. Hardly any volume at all there.

Imho you screwed up vegasguy. I will dump my last few fly(about 20 left not much), I dont see this project going anywhere if you exclude exchanges. Who on earth thought of that, dumbest thing you could ever do in crypto man. As a developer or project manager or whatever you are, you make sure you grow. Instead of breaking apart slowly as what you are doing now

Also your short temper, and angry outbursts are really BAD pr for this coin.

Peace


Ok.. first I agree with you on a lot of points. Many people out there just feel the need to be right. Im not one of them. If I make a mistake then I own up to it. Im not always right. Please allow me to explain why I did what I did. You dont even have to agree. But maybe it will help you understand my choices.

Ok.. so I agree with what you are saying that there has been an abnormal amount of forks for this coin. I CANNOT deny that. The reason is we are doing things with this coin that have NEVER been tried in crypto before. We DID use testnet and it worked the way we wanted, then we made the code public and it DIDNT work the way we wanted. Trust me, I know its not good to have this many forks, and I cringe every time we have to release another fork. There is no easier way to do it, and we are struggling to to implement the tx fees. We have also made it very public that we can use another talented dev on our team.

Why did we move away from Yobit?

Yobit has told me flat out on many occasions that our code with abnormal fees will NOT work on their exchange, so I had to move away from them. I talked with many exchanges, and only one would work with us with our abnormal fee table and that was Crytopia. So, we cant just list wherever we feel like it, because pretty much every exchange is incompatible with us.  

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You make sure you grow.

Hey, Im with you 100%. Right now, adding exchanges is the least of my concerns. I MUST get this code working correctly. We WILL grow. FLY is different. FLY is going to have challenges. Its just the way it is. It is NOT for everyone. Once we get the tx table working correctly, things will settle down. The reason there are so many forks, is because we are relentless and have NOT given up, and we wont.

So you may or may not agree and that is ok. But I wanted to simply explain whats going on. I knew in the beginning that there would be those that love FLY and those that hate it. Ive said it over and over. FLY is not for everyone. It is VERY radical, its VERY different, its strange, its been called bizarre. So its ok if FLY is not for you. There are many coins that I dont care for too. Its ok. 

Vegas
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 12:59:52 PM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink

Very mature response. You don't even know me. You know nothing about my background in crypto currencies. Again all the things I pointed out in my previous posts are just ignored. How sad is that?

I think this reply says enough about you already. Wake up and face reality man.


I do not understand criticism. Everything is nicely described in the OP.
If these rules have someone does not like, it does not have to invest in FLY.
Vegas is doing something that no one before in crypto did.
He devoted a lot of time, funds and nerve to make this project a success. He does not deserve such criticism.
If anyone has doubts, it can contact the vegas or someone from the team and send them a PM.
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
So we are still hammering on the code. We thought we had an additional respected dev that did respond to us, and has not since. So we are still in the market for a talented dev to speed things up. 50 FLY bounty to find us a talented 2nd dev.

Vegas
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November 30, 2015, 12:38:21 PM
That is a post of 2 weeks ago. Where is this info in the OP? Do you really expect so called "long term" investors to check this thread every day/week? This is exactly the problem with fly. To many forks, to much updating needed for the actual user. And for what reason? So the " little guy " can profit from it? I am a little guy, but in no way am I happy with the way things are going. I regret my small investment. I've never seen a coin so messed up in a few weeks time. Better think twice before releasing such funny features. Use testnet for christ sake and only release when you are confident you pulled it off. This has become a clown coin

Don't bring excuses like " we are trying to do something what has never been done before " . That is all fine, AFTER you fully tested it and confirmed it working properly in testnet. It is better to wait a month or 2 and come with a kickass code which is fully compatible with all exchanges, then the shit that is being pulled off here.

Peace

Dont think, we big investors are trying to game the system. Its totally wrong!
Vegasguy ALWAYS wrote TO EVERYONE in almost every 2nd following page, THIS coin is not like all. We are developing something new, what never someone TRIED before, because EVERY little guy is thinking about short gains and take profits and dont care about a coin.

Hey, what do u think? We big investors never sold literally one single FLY!!!!! Except Vegasguy was allowed to sell private to interested ppl. We all have agreements that we dont sell from our mainwallets like u see on BLOCKEXPLORER.

And yes...of course there were some forks! Because we developing faster...we developing with more energy. Shall I tell you, how much Ethereum forked his coin?  You wouldnt imagined that.

Everything will going well...And NO...this is not a problem, this could be solved in 1 hour...this is totally wrong and WE are not interested in codes working on every exchanges!!!

Greetz
Meta



Did I say you guys game the system? Did I say you guys dumped your coins? these arguments are totally irrelevant to the situation here

Who says every little guy is in it for a fast gain? If you feel that way, why the superfly rewards?  Roll Eyes For your info I was not in it for the short term. I never am with my investments. Big or small

This is not ethereum, ethereum is a new kind of code. The code FLY is using is not new. Yes you are trying something new. And I will say it again. TESTNET.

Why do you want users to experience these issues with not properly working code? You release when you know things work. Otherwise you keep developing in testnet. There is a reason a testnet option was created, and you are not using it to its fullest it seems.

And yes the issue could have been solved in an hour. It was just a revert to the old code until the new developer pulled off the new code without any bugs.

You are using the excuse of " we try to do something different " while that is not really an excuse for these issues. The excuse should be " sorry we did not test it good enough in testnet before actual release "

This is the exact reason we have a testnet in this crypto life. : https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/commit/5c0eff5d106afd5bc5e2a5af2520b5e2ea382166#diff-7ec3c68a81efff79b6ca22ac1f1eabbaR49

I assume he lowered the minimum age to test a few things. Very bad to do that on mainnet, even when you are in a testing network of your own.


You know what, I think I'm talking to a lot of stubborn people in here. I will dump my small balance anyway. Have fun


Peace


This is a thing I had noticed when I went through all of the github source code... First block is from sept 2015, and there is already having 5 forks??? never before seen that.
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 12:09:59 PM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink

Very mature response. You don't even know me. You know nothing about my background in crypto currencies. Again all the things I pointed out in my previous posts are just ignored. How sad is that?

I think this reply says enough about you already. Wake up and face reality man.

Pls, dude, stop trolling this thread. If you don't like FLY, fine, go and dump. Pls let the rest of us who like how things develop to continue working on this coin.
Thank you for your opinion and your suggestions. I wish you best of luck.
legendary
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No risk, no fun!
November 30, 2015, 12:04:49 PM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink

Very mature response. You don't even know me. You know nothing about my background in crypto currencies. Again all the things I pointed out in my previous posts are just ignored. How sad is that?

I think this reply says enough about you already. Wake up and face reality man.

Than lets speak...Contact me here and I am pretty sure U will tell me nothing new for our developments! So I give u ur response back, because U have not the view to look out of the box, because you dont get it, that we are different here! Tell me what we try here! After this, we can talk. I am very excited to read what you know about our coin!

Peace
Meta
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November 30, 2015, 11:55:56 AM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink

Very mature response. You don't even know me. You know nothing about my background in crypto currencies. Again all the things I pointed out in my previous posts are just ignored. How sad is that?

I think this reply says enough about you already. Wake up and face reality man.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
November 30, 2015, 11:48:51 AM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace

I am sure u r not experienced enough Wink
full member
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November 30, 2015, 11:48:01 AM
My posts are based on my own experience as a developer. I am not saying this coin is a short term or a daytrader coin at all!? I invested a little bit of my money in this coin because of that.  So there is no one here who understands my posts from a critic side? This has nothing to do with patient or impatient, but with code quality and proper working software. That you don't roll out unless it works 100%.

Peace
hero member
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November 30, 2015, 11:35:34 AM
That is a post of 2 weeks ago. Where is this info in the OP? Do you really expect so called "long term" investors to check this thread every day/week? This is exactly the problem with fly. To many forks, to much updating needed for the actual user. And for what reason? So the " little guy " can profit from it? I am a little guy, but in no way am I happy with the way things are going. I regret my small investment. I've never seen a coin so messed up in a few weeks time. Better think twice before releasing such funny features. Use testnet for christ sake and only release when you are confident you pulled it off. This has become a clown coin

Don't bring excuses like " we are trying to do something what has never been done before " . That is all fine, AFTER you fully tested it and confirmed it working properly in testnet. It is better to wait a month or 2 and come with a kickass code which is fully compatible with all exchanges, then the shit that is being pulled off here.

Peace

Dont think, we big investors are trying to game the system. Its totally wrong!
Vegasguy ALWAYS wrote TO EVERYONE in almost every 2nd following page, THIS coin is not like all. We are developing something new, what never someone TRIED before, because EVERY little guy is thinking about short gains and take profits and dont care about a coin.

Hey, what do u think? We big investors never sold literally one single FLY!!!!! Except Vegasguy was allowed to sell private to interested ppl. We all have agreements that we dont sell from our mainwallets like u see on BLOCKEXPLORER.

And yes...of course there were some forks! Because we developing faster...we developing with more energy. Shall I tell you, how much Ethereum forked his coin?  You wouldnt imagined that.

Everything will going well...And NO...this is not a problem, this could be solved in 1 hour...this is totally wrong and WE are not interested in codes working on every exchanges!!!

Greetz
Meta



Did I say you guys game the system? Did I say you guys dumped your coins? these arguments are totally irrelevant to the situation here

Who says every little guy is in it for a fast gain? If you feel that way, why the superfly rewards?  Roll Eyes For your info I was not in it for the short term. I never am with my investments. Big or small

This is not ethereum, ethereum is a new kind of code. The code FLY is using is not new. Yes you are trying something new. And I will say it again. TESTNET.

Why do you want users to experience these issues with not properly working code? You release when you know things work. Otherwise you keep developing in testnet. There is a reason a testnet option was created, and you are not using it to its fullest it seems.

And yes the issue could have been solved in an hour. It was just a revert to the old code until the new developer pulled off the new code without any bugs.

You are using the excuse of " we try to do something different " while that is not really an excuse for these issues. The excuse should be " sorry we did not test it good enough in testnet before actual release "

This is the exact reason we have a testnet in this crypto life. : https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/commit/5c0eff5d106afd5bc5e2a5af2520b5e2ea382166#diff-7ec3c68a81efff79b6ca22ac1f1eabbaR49

I assume he lowered the minimum age to test a few things. Very bad to do that on mainnet, even when you are in a testing network of your own.


You know what, I think I'm talking to a lot of stubborn people in here. I will dump my small balance anyway. Have fun


Peace


You don't understand this coin at all. This is not a traders coin. This is not a short-term coin. This is not a "impatient user" coin.

And the list goes on and on...

This is a coin that has never tried before.

Like you say: Peace.
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November 30, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
That is a post of 2 weeks ago. Where is this info in the OP? Do you really expect so called "long term" investors to check this thread every day/week? This is exactly the problem with fly. To many forks, to much updating needed for the actual user. And for what reason? So the " little guy " can profit from it? I am a little guy, but in no way am I happy with the way things are going. I regret my small investment. I've never seen a coin so messed up in a few weeks time. Better think twice before releasing such funny features. Use testnet for christ sake and only release when you are confident you pulled it off. This has become a clown coin

Don't bring excuses like " we are trying to do something what has never been done before " . That is all fine, AFTER you fully tested it and confirmed it working properly in testnet. It is better to wait a month or 2 and come with a kickass code which is fully compatible with all exchanges, then the shit that is being pulled off here.

Peace

Dont think, we big investors are trying to game the system. Its totally wrong!
Vegasguy ALWAYS wrote TO EVERYONE in almost every 2nd following page, THIS coin is not like all. We are developing something new, what never someone TRIED before, because EVERY little guy is thinking about short gains and take profits and dont care about a coin.

Hey, what do u think? We big investors never sold literally one single FLY!!!!! Except Vegasguy was allowed to sell private to interested ppl. We all have agreements that we dont sell from our mainwallets like u see on BLOCKEXPLORER.

And yes...of course there were some forks! Because we developing faster...we developing with more energy. Shall I tell you, how much Ethereum forked his coin?  You wouldnt imagined that.

Everything will going well...And NO...this is not a problem, this could be solved in 1 hour...this is totally wrong and WE are not interested in codes working on every exchanges!!!

Greetz
Meta



Did I say you guys game the system? Did I say you guys dumped your coins? these arguments are totally irrelevant to the situation here

Who says every little guy is in it for a fast gain? If you feel that way, why the superfly rewards?  Roll Eyes For your info I was not in it for the short term. I never am with my investments. Big or small

This is not ethereum, ethereum is a new kind of code. The code FLY is using is not new. Yes you are trying something new. And I will say it again. TESTNET.

Why do you want users to experience these issues with not properly working code? You release when you know things work. Otherwise you keep developing in testnet. There is a reason a testnet option was created, and you are not using it to its fullest it seems.

And yes the issue could have been solved in an hour. It was just a revert to the old code until the new developer pulled off the new code without any bugs.

You are using the excuse of " we try to do something different " while that is not really an excuse for these issues. The excuse should be " sorry we did not test it good enough in testnet before actual release "

This is the exact reason we have a testnet in this crypto life. : https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/commit/5c0eff5d106afd5bc5e2a5af2520b5e2ea382166#diff-7ec3c68a81efff79b6ca22ac1f1eabbaR49

I assume he lowered the minimum age to test a few things. Very bad to do that on mainnet, even when you are in a testing network of your own.


You know what, I think I'm talking to a lot of stubborn people in here. I will dump my small balance anyway. Have fun


Peace
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 10:01:31 AM
That is a post of 2 weeks ago. Where is this info in the OP? Do you really expect so called "long term" investors to check this thread every day/week? This is exactly the problem with fly. To many forks, to much updating needed for the actual user. And for what reason? So the " little guy " can profit from it? I am a little guy, but in no way am I happy with the way things are going. I regret my small investment. I've never seen a coin so messed up in a few weeks time. Better think twice before releasing such funny features. Use testnet for christ sake and only release when you are confident you pulled it off. This has become a clown coin

Don't bring excuses like " we are trying to do something what has never been done before " . That is all fine, AFTER you fully tested it and confirmed it working properly in testnet. It is better to wait a month or 2 and come with a kickass code which is fully compatible with all exchanges, then the shit that is being pulled off here.

Peace

Dont think, we big investors are trying to game the system. Its totally wrong!
Vegasguy ALWAYS wrote TO EVERYONE in almost every 2nd following page, THIS coin is not like all. We are developing something new, what never someone TRIED before, because EVERY little guy is thinking about short gains and take profits and dont care about a coin.

Hey, what do u think? We big investors never sold literally one single FLY!!!!! Except Vegasguy was allowed to sell private to interested ppl. We all have agreements that we dont sell from our mainwallets like u see on BLOCKEXPLORER.

And yes...of course there were some forks! Because we developing faster...we developing with more energy. Shall I tell you, how much Ethereum forked his coin?  You wouldnt imagined that.

Everything will going well...And NO...this is not a problem, this could be solved in 1 hour...this is totally wrong and WE are not interested in codes working on every exchanges!!!

Greetz
Meta

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November 30, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
That is a post of 2 weeks ago. Where is this info in the OP? Do you really expect so called "long term" investors to check this thread every day/week? This is exactly the problem with fly. To many forks, to much updating needed for the actual user. And for what reason? So the " little guy " can profit from it? I am a little guy, but in no way am I happy with the way things are going. I regret my small investment. I've never seen a coin so messed up in a few weeks time. Better think twice before releasing such funny features. Use testnet for christ sake and only release when you are confident you pulled it off. This has become a clown coin

Don't bring excuses like " we are trying to do something what has never been done before " . That is all fine, AFTER you fully tested it and confirmed it working properly in testnet. It is better to wait a month or 2 and come with a kickass code which is fully compatible with all exchanges, then the shit that is being pulled off here.

Peace
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 09:24:13 AM
Same here. Took long enough already. You should have
reverted to yobit compatible source. You cant expect users to stop trading for a week because you screwed up. A temporary revert was at its place here. But you didnt. And as a dev myself, that is only a 1 hour job to do. Cryptopia is also not going anywhere. Hardly any volume at all there.


The code was changed/forked back to allow all coins to be withdrawn from yobit and people were told to remove their coins. Here is the post about that.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12951872
'Well - I said less than 24 hours for a fix and here it is less than 2 hours later!!!
Yobit has the new wallet and a test was done of a withdrawal.'


Then it was posted many times over a period of time and said in their chat box over a span of many days that once it forks back those coins will be stuck. I'm not sure why yobit did not close their market but maybe after this next update it will work on their system but I'm not sure since the FLY Team is making sure it works for Cryptopia.
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