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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 23, 2021, 10:55:37 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on August 23, 2021, 08:20:34 PM

The Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games starts today.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/

Do you usually watch?
Are there athletes from your countries participating?
If so, how is their performance usually?

I have huge respect for the athletes who take part in Paralympics. But unfortunately these games doesn't have the same level of excitement as Olympics. Unlike Olympics, the United States is not the favorite to top medals table in Paralympics. Back in 2016, it was China which topped the medals table, with Great Britain and Ukraine taking the second and third places respectively. Unfortunately in 2016, there was a tragic accident which resulted in the death of one athlete (Bahman Golbarnejhad). Let's hope that no such incident occurs this time.

US athletes have competed at every Summer Paralympic Games since 1960. With more than 2,180 medals won, the United States has traditionally been the most successful country (source:wikipedia). However, China has surpassed them and have been the top-ranking nation for the last four Summer Paralympic Games, since 2004.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 23, 2021, 11:24:58 PM

We love the 100 meters specially in women, in the Olympics it was swept by the Jamaican ladies.

And weeks after the Olympics, Elaine Thompson-Herah proved herself that her win in the Olympics is not a fluke as she won in the Nike Diamond League again with the same time of 10.54.

And also the same result in the 2nd and 3rd position, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce and Shericka Jackson of Jamaica as well.

Jamaicans are no.1 as far as short distance running is concerned (for both the genders). And that's why it came as a huge surprise when an Italian won the gold medal (in men's race). Ironically none of the Jamaican athletes qualified for the final. I was hoping for a good performance from Yohan Blake, but he finished at #6 in the semi-finals. Anyway, Jamaican athletes completely dominated the women's race, by bagging all three medals. Elaine Thompson-Herah won the Olympic gold medal with 10.61 seconds, and then Diamond League with 10.54s.

The era of Usain Bolt seems over so young athletes are replacing his golden spot but surely Jamaican are better when it comes to sprinting as youbsaid so hopefully next time they will come hard and grab the medal for sure.

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Quote from: xzone on August 23, 2021, 11:33:35 PM

Paralympic games are very interesting to me. Although it is much more difficult than normal sports, athletes are very successful.
87 athletes from my country are participating and I believe they will win many medal

I will watch all the matches I can, I think it will be very exciting

What is your country? Do you usually take a good number of medals home?

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 23, 2021, 11:24:58 PM

We love the 100 meters specially in women, in the Olympics it was swept by the Jamaican ladies.

And weeks after the Olympics, Elaine Thompson-Herah proved herself that her win in the Olympics is not a fluke as she won in the Nike Diamond League again with the same time of 10.54.

And also the same result in the 2nd and 3rd position, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce and Shericka Jackson of Jamaica as well.

Jamaicans are no.1 as far as short distance running is concerned (for both the genders). And that's why it came as a huge surprise when an Italian won the gold medal (in men's race). Ironically none of the Jamaican athletes qualified for the final. I was hoping for a good performance from Yohan Blake, but he finished at #6 in the semi-finals. Anyway, Jamaican athletes completely dominated the women's race, by bagging all three medals. Elaine Thompson-Herah won the Olympic gold medal with 10.61 seconds, and then Diamond League with 10.54s.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 23, 2021, 08:20:34 PM

The Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games starts today.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/

Do you usually watch?
Are there athletes from your countries participating?
If so, how is their performance usually?

Paralympic games are very interesting to me. Although it is much more difficult than normal sports, athletes are very successful.
87 athletes from my country are participating and I believe they will win many medal

I will watch all the matches I can, I think it will be very exciting

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We love the 100 meters specially in women, in the Olympics it was swept by the Jamaican ladies.

And weeks after the Olympics, Elaine Thompson-Herah proved herself that her win in the Olympics is not a fluke as she won in the Nike Diamond League again with the same time of 10.54.

And also the same result in the 2nd and 3rd position, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce and Shericka Jackson of Jamaica as well.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 23, 2021, 08:20:34 PM

The Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games starts today.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/

Do you usually watch?
Are there athletes from your countries participating?
If so, how is their performance usually?

I have huge respect for the athletes who take part in Paralympics. But unfortunately these games doesn't have the same level of excitement as Olympics. Unlike Olympics, the United States is not the favorite to top medals table in Paralympics. Back in 2016, it was China which topped the medals table, with Great Britain and Ukraine taking the second and third places respectively. Unfortunately in 2016, there was a tragic accident which resulted in the death of one athlete (Bahman Golbarnejhad). Let's hope that no such incident occurs this time.

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The Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games starts today.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/

Do you usually watch?
Are there athletes from your countries participating?
If so, how is their performance usually?

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Though its old news, but when I think of Olympics and contribution from athletics, I remember Chopra this year. I saw his throws on youtube channel yesterday. Yes, He saved himself on his 2nd throw setting world record. But if you have noticed the following throws, yes, did not even meet 85 meters which was really bit disappointing from Chopra. However, the 2nd throw finalized him for gold medal. A good play.

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Quote from: South Park on August 17, 2021, 03:49:33 PM

What happens is that right now we lack historic perspective to appreciate what it happened, the games finished recently and it is simply too soon to appreciate what happened, I really think that once enough time passes people are going to appreciate that the games happened despite all the adverse circumstances in place, which is by the way one of the original reasons for the games to happen, as in ancient Greece the game happened even during times of war and other difficult circumstances, so it is nice to see that despite the pandemic the games could be held.

Agreed. I believe that if the games was being scheduled in any country other than Japan, then it would have become impossible to conduct it. Japanese people are very disciplined and they obeyed the social distancing protocols although the delta variant was causing a lot of damage in that country. The government was also adamant that there should be no postponement. The global sporting community needs to appreciate the efforts made by the Japanese government, as well as by the public.

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Congratulations Brazil football team for promoting team at final match against Spain . Brazil football team defeated Mexican football team with pelanties shot .... I am sure Brazil football team would win the final in Tokyo Olympics 2020/21...

Congratulations Brazil football team for winning the tournament in final match against in Spain football team. It's a big deserve for them all to their hardwork , practice , and sacrifice the aim this so they will earn to. But for the Spain still congrats and keep up the good game .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 13, 2021, 10:30:08 PM

Quote from: South Park on August 13, 2021, 02:37:39 PM

Without a doubt these were probably one of the most difficult games not only to organize but also to attend and to prepare for, and yet it all went without a problem, lets hope that during the next games all this nightmare is finally over and we can watch some average Olympic Games in which the only thing we need to care about are the games themselves and not whether or not the games will happen at all because the world is going through an event that had not happened during the last 100 years.

It is sad that Japan received no appreciation for hosting the Games under such adverse conditions. The government went ahead with the Olympics, despite a large part of the population remaining opposed to it. And there was no complains from the athletes and other members of the contingent belonging to the participant nations. The Japanese authorities too care of each and every issue. But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.

What happens is that right now we lack historic perspective to appreciate what it happened, the games finished recently and it is simply too soon to appreciate what happened, I really think that once enough time passes people are going to appreciate that the games happened despite all the adverse circumstances in place, which is by the way one of the original reasons for the games to happen, as in ancient Greece the game happened even during times of war and other difficult circumstances, so it is nice to see that despite the pandemic the games could be held.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 17, 2021, 12:03:22 PM

I'm extremely suspicious of these Olympic Games becoming profitable, it is widely known that Olympic Games costs more money and many instances way more money than the profits that will be produced by the games, so I find hard to believe that with no tourists in the middle of a pandemic these games actually became profitable, I simply do not buy it, which is why they need to find a way to make the games more cheaply as this cannot continue for long.

I also don't believe that Japan made a financial profit with this olympic games so far. As you already said the main source of income during the olympic games are usually the tourists because a lot of them do not only visit the stadiums to see the Olympic games but they combine this with a longer stay in the hosting country. I am pretty sure though that the IOC already made a lot of profit with the games in Japan, which is a shame because the IOC should first and foremost care about the sports and not about money. It is still possible and also not that unlikely that the olympic games are big win for Japan in the longterm because of all those investments that were made in the infrastructure of the country prior to the games.

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Quote from: harizen on August 14, 2021, 02:51:06 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 13, 2021, 10:30:08 PM

But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.

Not zero at all. However, it's expected that there should be more of it if the pandemic didn't hit the world.

Unfortunate timing after several years of waiting to become a country host.

Even With No Tourists or Fans, Japan Is Already Seeing Economic Benefits From the $15.4 Billion Tokyo Olympics

Amid the pandemic, the country affords to spend that amount without harming their other financial aspects.

I'm extremely suspicious of these Olympic Games becoming profitable, it is widely known that Olympic Games costs more money and many instances way more money than the profits that will be produced by the games, so I find hard to believe that with no tourists in the middle of a pandemic these games actually became profitable, I simply do not buy it, which is why they need to find a way to make the games more cheaply as this cannot continue for long.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 06:03:18 AM

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 15, 2021, 08:47:03 AM

I remember very well the Olympics in Sochi (I myself am from Russia) and I saw all this chaos that was happening here with my own eyes. For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that any winter Olympiad is unprofitable, therefore, such an event is really only available for rich countries, however, this does not forgive the theft and madness that is happening in the petrocracies during such events.

I know that winter Olympics requires huge spending. But even then, the $51 billion price tag was nothing short of shocking. It is almost equal to the annual government healthcare spending. I personally believe that this amount could have been better used elsewhere. Anyway, 2014 was when the crude oil prices were at ATH levels, and Putin probably wanted to show off his wealth. The prices crashed later that year and that immediately pushed a lot of Russians in to poverty. This amount could have come handy then.

Trust me, we (ordinary people) in Russia do not get anything from the rise in oil prices. We have a rule: if oil prices have increased, then the price of gasoline will rise, if oil prices have gone down, then the price of gasoline will rise. We pay for gasoline almost as much as US citizens, but our average salaries are ten times lower.
By the way, during that Olympiad in Russia, a law was passed simplifying the seizure of land from the population, and it still works. So we can say that that Olympiad turned out to be a disaster for a huge number of people.

The situation in Russia is something strong, although it is a country that I really would like to know some day, I know that its system is quite hard, I know that the Russian government is usually quite radical, something like that happens in Venezuela, what happens is that the Knowledge of the Russians is impressive with respect to technology and almost in every area, it is incredible to know that the Olympics have been able to bring such inconveniences, despite the fact that the Country was one of those that won the most gold medals.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 16, 2021, 11:42:48 AM

Theoretically, the IOC is concerned with this, and the choice of the host city for the games usually requires that the country follow certain social standards. The problem is what happens after the games are over, countries take measures contrary to these standards.

Ideally such tournaments should not be hosted in countries that don't value human rights. But the sports bodies such as IOC and FIFA have a very poor record on this. Anyone with money is welcome, irrespective of the fact whether they respect the personal liberty or not. The biggest sham will be next year's world cup in Qatar. A country that is considered as the main sponsor of Islamic extremism around the world is allowed to host such an event, despite the fact that they haven't compensated thousands of workers, who died during the construction of the stadiums.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 16, 2021, 11:01:37 AM

The International Olympic Committee should also look in to it. If the regime is using Olympics for such purpose, then in the end it tarnishes the reputation of the games.

Theoretically, the IOC is concerned with this, and the choice of the host city for the games usually requires that the country follow certain social standards. The problem is what happens after the games are over, countries take measures contrary to these standards.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 06:03:18 AM

By the way, during that Olympiad in Russia, a law was passed simplifying the seizure of land from the population, and it still works. So we can say that that Olympiad turned out to be a disaster for a huge number of people.

That is really tragic. I heard that recently the property prices in Sochi and surrounding regions within Krasnodar territory went to the roof. Unfortunately, if what you are saying is true, then very few of the original owners benefited from it. It is sad that an event like Olympics was used to give legitimacy to the seizure of land from the original owners. The International Olympic Committee should also look in to it. If the regime is using Olympics for such purpose, then in the end it tarnishes the reputation of the games.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 15, 2021, 10:30:42 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 15, 2021, 08:47:03 AM

I remember very well the Olympics in Sochi (I myself am from Russia) and I saw all this chaos that was happening here with my own eyes. For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that any winter Olympiad is unprofitable, therefore, such an event is really only available for rich countries, however, this does not forgive the theft and madness that is happening in the petrocracies during such events.

I know that winter Olympics requires huge spending. But even then, the $51 billion price tag was nothing short of shocking. It is almost equal to the annual government healthcare spending. I personally believe that this amount could have been better used elsewhere. Anyway, 2014 was when the crude oil prices were at ATH levels, and Putin probably wanted to show off his wealth. The prices crashed later that year and that immediately pushed a lot of Russians in to poverty. This amount could have come handy then.

Trust me, we (ordinary people) in Russia do not get anything from the rise in oil prices. We have a rule: if oil prices have increased, then the price of gasoline will rise, if oil prices have gone down, then the price of gasoline will rise. We pay for gasoline almost as much as US citizens, but our average salaries are ten times lower.
By the way, during that Olympiad in Russia, a law was passed simplifying the seizure of land from the population, and it still works. So we can say that that Olympiad turned out to be a disaster for a huge number of people.

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The rules change in 2018, thus facilitating the process. Either way, the list of requirements is long.

See the conditions established for the games in 2024:
https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/Document%20Library/OlympicOrg/Documents/Host-City-Elections/XXXIII-Olympiad-2024/Host-City-Contract-2024-Operational-Requirements.pdf

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