Topic: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions - page 3. (Read 5001 times)
The top 3 countries US, China and Japan has that flair that once they are in finals so they tend to make it to the first spot. Looking at the tables many counties you will find have majority of silver and bronze but not equivalent number of golds. But those 3 counties almost have same gold or more infact than its bronze or silver medal which is a very good thing and they have the best of players in those categories where they ended up getting gold.
That's why more and more people have been talking about whether the current model of Olympic games should be changed or not.
The IOC has already started to be less demanding on the characteristics of Olympic cities and other facilities. Before, almost everything had to be new, now it is allowed to use existing spaces or even places outside the usual. That's why Paris2024 will allegedly have street events outside the usual venues. This will certainly bring down the costs of Olympic games.
The IOC has already started to be less demanding on the characteristics of Olympic cities and other facilities. Before, almost everything had to be new, now it is allowed to use existing spaces or even places outside the usual. That's why Paris2024 will allegedly have street events outside the usual venues. This will certainly bring down the costs of Olympic games.
Why all the facilities needs to be newly constructed? It will put extra burden on the host nations. If the particular city is lacking the facility, then I can understand. But it makes no sense to construct new stadiums, if existing ones can be used for the same purpose. And the cost of building such facilities go up with each passing year. Labour is now extremely expensive, and have gone up by 2-3 times during the last two decades. The same goes for steel, cement and other materials that are used for construction.
I know that winter Olympics requires huge spending. But even then, the $51 billion price tag was nothing short of shocking. It is almost equal to the annual government healthcare spending. I personally believe that this amount could have been better used elsewhere. Anyway, 2014 was when the crude oil prices were at ATH levels, and Putin probably wanted to show off his wealth. The prices crashed later that year and that immediately pushed a lot of Russians in to poverty. This amount could have come handy then.
That's why more and more people have been talking about whether the current model of Olympic games should be changed or not.
The IOC has already started to be less demanding on the characteristics of Olympic cities and other facilities. Before, almost everything had to be new, now it is allowed to use existing spaces or even places outside the usual. That's why Paris2024 will allegedly have street events outside the usual venues. This will certainly bring down the costs of Olympic games.
I remember very well the Olympics in Sochi (I myself am from Russia) and I saw all this chaos that was happening here with my own eyes. For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that any winter Olympiad is unprofitable, therefore, such an event is really only available for rich countries, however, this does not forgive the theft and madness that is happening in the petrocracies during such events.
I know that winter Olympics requires huge spending. But even then, the $51 billion price tag was nothing short of shocking. It is almost equal to the annual government healthcare spending. I personally believe that this amount could have been better used elsewhere. Anyway, 2014 was when the crude oil prices were at ATH levels, and Putin probably wanted to show off his wealth. The prices crashed later that year and that immediately pushed a lot of Russians in to poverty. This amount could have come handy then.
I think in the modern world the amount of $ 14.5 billion is simply ridiculous on the scale of almost any country, and as you know Japan is one of the most highly developed countries. I doubt that this profit outweighed the risk of spreading covid that the country received during the Olympics.
But their effort of completing this event is highly commendable despite of the odds they encountered due to the pandemic. Just be glad that they made it and offered the athletes and the community that we all deserved during these challenging times. Yes, there were so many controversies but they stood their ground and completed this event during these turmoil times.
As discussed in the above article, construction industry, specifically benefited from this event. The National stadium and other venues built costing them billions of dollars can still be used for other future events. So for me, that's not a loss at all. They can easily recover the amount used in the next few years of using those venues.
Undoubtedly, Japan's merit is great (at least in that they helped to ensure the continuity of the Olympiads, although the idea of abandoning the 2020 Olympics had great support), but my point of view was that it was wrong to talk about such a small amount as an important factor.
Such huge expenses for conducting the Olympics would mean that in the future only the super-rich nations would be able to bid for hosting. One perfect example is Qatar hosting the FIFA World Cup next year. At least in case of Japan, we know that the money was not stolen and was spent on building the infrastructure. That is not always the case. Remember Sochi 2014? It cost the Russian tax payer around $51 billion and a large part of that money was stolen by the oligarchs. The Fisht stadium cost $665 million, and it was 14 times more than the original estimate.
I remember very well the Olympics in Sochi (I myself am from Russia) and I saw all this chaos that was happening here with my own eyes. For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that any winter Olympiad is unprofitable, therefore, such an event is really only available for rich countries, however, this does not forgive the theft and madness that is happening in the petrocracies during such events.
My research yields mixed results when I try to find out which Olympics were the most expensive so far.
Some sources state that it was the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014, which cost approximately US $ 55 billion, while other sources mention the Rio de Janeiro Summer Games in 2016, which cost approximately US $ 11.1 billion.
Anybody know a reliable source with the total cost of hosting Olympic games by country?
Some sources state that it was the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014, which cost approximately US $ 55 billion, while other sources mention the Rio de Janeiro Summer Games in 2016, which cost approximately US $ 11.1 billion.
Anybody know a reliable source with the total cost of hosting Olympic games by country?
You can check the table given in Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_the_Olympic_Games
It looks as of you are right about the Sochi (winter) Olympics. It was the most expensive tournament ever in the history of Olympics and cost almost $51 billion to the Russian tax payers. But the amount that was actually spent on infrastructure was lower than this and most of the remaining amount was stolen by the politicians. In the second place we have the 2008 Beijing Olympics, which had a price tag of $44 billion. These sort of expenses put a big hole in the budgets of many countries. And in the future, I believe that less number of countries will bid for hosting such tournaments.
My research yields mixed results when I try to find out which Olympics were the most expensive so far.
Some sources state that it was the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014, which cost approximately US $ 55 billion, while other sources mention the Rio de Janeiro Summer Games in 2016, which cost approximately US $ 11.1 billion.
Anybody know a reliable source with the total cost of hosting Olympic games by country?
Some sources state that it was the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014, which cost approximately US $ 55 billion, while other sources mention the Rio de Janeiro Summer Games in 2016, which cost approximately US $ 11.1 billion.
Anybody know a reliable source with the total cost of hosting Olympic games by country?
The Olympic Games, apart from 1 or 2 cases, were always held in very rich countries. It is the sporting competition that has the highest cost of organization in the world. In addition to having to be financed almost entirely by the organizing country and eventually the sponsorships you get. The IOC does not help with financing the games.
Times have changed. In the past, developing nations have successfully hosted the Olympic games. Examples are Mexico City in 1968 and Rio de Janeiro in 2016. But now it has become prohibitively expensive to host such tournaments. Also, in the past the population was more supportive and hosting Olympics was seen essential to national pride. But this attitude has also changed. Those who support spending money for sports are mostly middle-aged and elderly, while the youth rarely support such tournaments.
I think in the modern world the amount of $ 14.5 billion is simply ridiculous on the scale of almost any country, and as you know Japan is one of the most highly developed countries. I doubt that this profit outweighed the risk of spreading covid that the country received during the Olympics.
Such huge expenses for conducting the Olympics would mean that in the future only the super-rich nations would be able to bid for hosting.
The Olympic Games, apart from 1 or 2 cases, were always held in very rich countries. It is the sporting competition that has the highest cost of organization in the world. In addition to having to be financed almost entirely by the organizing country and eventually the sponsorships you get. The IOC does not help with financing the games.
I think in the modern world the amount of $ 14.5 billion is simply ridiculous on the scale of almost any country, and as you know Japan is one of the most highly developed countries. I doubt that this profit outweighed the risk of spreading covid that the country received during the Olympics.
Such huge expenses for conducting the Olympics would mean that in the future only the super-rich nations would be able to bid for hosting. One perfect example is Qatar hosting the FIFA World Cup next year. At least in case of Japan, we know that the money was not stolen and was spent on building the infrastructure. That is not always the case. Remember Sochi 2014? It cost the Russian tax payer around $51 billion and a large part of that money was stolen by the oligarchs. The Fisht stadium cost $665 million, and it was 14 times more than the original estimate.
But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.
Not zero at all. However, it's expected that there should be more of it if the pandemic didn't hit the world.
Unfortunate timing after several years of waiting to become a country host.
Even With No Tourists or Fans, Japan Is Already Seeing Economic Benefits From the $15.4 Billion Tokyo Olympics
Amid the pandemic, the country affords to spend that amount without harming their other financial aspects.
I think in the modern world the amount of $ 14.5 billion is simply ridiculous on the scale of almost any country, and as you know Japan is one of the most highly developed countries. I doubt that this profit outweighed the risk of spreading covid that the country received during the Olympics.
But their effort of completing this event is highly commendable despite of the odds they encountered due to the pandemic. Just be glad that they made it and offered the athletes and the community that we all deserved during these challenging times. Yes, there were so many controversies but they stood their ground and completed this event during these turmoil times.
As discussed in the above article, construction industry, specifically benefited from this event. The National stadium and other venues built costing them billions of dollars can still be used for other future events. So for me, that's not a loss at all. They can easily recover the amount used in the next few years of using those venues.
But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.
Not zero at all. However, it's expected that there should be more of it if the pandemic didn't hit the world.
Unfortunate timing after several years of waiting to become a country host.
Even With No Tourists or Fans, Japan Is Already Seeing Economic Benefits From the $15.4 Billion Tokyo Olympics
Amid the pandemic, the country affords to spend that amount without harming their other financial aspects.
I think in the modern world the amount of $ 14.5 billion is simply ridiculous on the scale of almost any country, and as you know Japan is one of the most highly developed countries. I doubt that this profit outweighed the risk of spreading covid that the country received during the Olympics.
Well, true sportsmanship was felt by the entire world on the javelin throw event where the gold medal got shared between Barshim of Qatar with Tamperi of Venezuela. This made the entire world understand true sportsmanship and its value. It made people cry out of it. Same as that what's been done here is entirely opposite and such players needs to be give life time ban which needs to be an warning to rest of the players.
LOL.. why repeat the same set of lies again and again?
The gold was shared, because both the athletes were tired and decided against the "jump-off". Al Jazeera and the other Qatari-funded media immediately went ballistic, claiming that the gold given to the Italian athlete was "donated" by the Qatari. The truth is this - Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi had cleared 2.37m, but they failed to clear 2.39m on three occasions. And given how tired they were, I would say either of them had 0% chances of clearing 2.39m, even if a hundred attempts were given. So instead of doing that, they decided to share the gold medal.
The truth doesn't always suit the narrative.
After all, each of them had three attempts, and none of them succeeded. Probably the next ones would also fail. They had the right to make such a decision, and they did so. They both got the gold they deserved.
When it comes to negative statements in the media, in my opinion, this type of controversy is only done to attract more people. In other words - the greater the controversy, the greater the viewership.
Well, true sportsmanship was felt by the entire world on the javelin throw event where the gold medal got shared between Barshim of Qatar with Tamperi of Venezuela. This made the entire world understand true sportsmanship and its value. It made people cry out of it. Same as that what's been done here is entirely opposite and such players needs to be give life time ban which needs to be an warning to rest of the players.
LOL.. why repeat the same set of lies again and again?
The gold was shared, because both the athletes were tired and decided against the "jump-off". Al Jazeera and the other Qatari-funded media immediately went ballistic, claiming that the gold given to the Italian athlete was "donated" by the Qatari. The truth is this - Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi had cleared 2.37m, but they failed to clear 2.39m on three occasions. And given how tired they were, I would say either of them had 0% chances of clearing 2.39m, even if a hundred attempts were given. So instead of doing that, they decided to share the gold medal.
The truth doesn't always suit the narrative.
But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.
Not zero at all. However, it's expected that there should be more of it if the pandemic didn't hit the world.
Unfortunate timing after several years of waiting to become a country host.
Even With No Tourists or Fans, Japan Is Already Seeing Economic Benefits From the $15.4 Billion Tokyo Olympics
Amid the pandemic, the country affords to spend that amount without harming their other financial aspects.
It is sad that Japan received no appreciation for hosting the Games under such adverse conditions. The government went ahead with the Olympics, despite a large part of the population remaining opposed to it. And there was no complains from the athletes and other members of the contingent belonging to the participant nations. The Japanese authorities too care of each and every issue. But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.
Not to mention the investment made, which ended up not having the expected return. Organizing the Olympic Games is one of the biggest events in the world where the most money is spent. And it is practically an investment made only by the country that hosts the games and its sponsors. The International Olympic Committee does not help to cover the organization expenses.
Without a doubt these were probably one of the most difficult games not only to organize but also to attend and to prepare for, and yet it all went without a problem, lets hope that during the next games all this nightmare is finally over and we can watch some average Olympic Games in which the only thing we need to care about are the games themselves and not whether or not the games will happen at all because the world is going through an event that had not happened during the last 100 years.
It is sad that Japan received no appreciation for hosting the Games under such adverse conditions. The government went ahead with the Olympics, despite a large part of the population remaining opposed to it. And there was no complains from the athletes and other members of the contingent belonging to the participant nations. The Japanese authorities too care of each and every issue. But unfortunately, the country received zero benefit from hosting the Games. The spectators were not allowed, and that meant that there was no boost for the tourism sector as well.
Congratulation to the USA as general champion and Japan as an organizer who has created a successful event around the Pandemic. I also thank you for Japan has shown me a beautiful city and neatness when seen it all in the last marathon event. this big capital will be returning back when tourism back to your country, this means Olympic not showing the event sport but will calling back people to come to your country.
Without a doubt these were probably one of the most difficult games not only to organize but also to attend and to prepare for, and yet it all went without a problem, lets hope that during the next games all this nightmare is finally over and we can watch some average Olympic Games in which the only thing we need to care about are the games themselves and not whether or not the games will happen at all because the world is going through an event that had not happened during the last 100 years. Surprisingly, he updated only one individual record. In any case, he will have many more opportunities to do so, and it increasingly looks like he will surpass the achievements of his legendary predecessor Phelps.
In general, I wonder how the United States is lucky with such mutant swimmers who turn the distribution of medals into a mere formality. Dressel alone brought 5 gold medals to the USA team, and taking into account the relay races, 7!
In my opinion, Caeleb Dressel has even surpassed the achievements that have been achieved by Michael Phelps, just winning 4 gold medals at the 2012 London Olympics, the achievements obtained by Caeleb Dressel are the result of the hard work he has been doing so far, and we can see how Caeleb Dressel During this time he hard fight at the Tokyo Olympics, so he won five gold medals in five different events, namely 100 meters butterfly, 100 meters freestyle, 4 x 100 meters freestyle relay, 4 x 100 meters medley relay, and 50 meters freestyle relay men freestyle meters, and the great thing is that Caeleb Dressel managed to achieve all these achievements in just 8 days, including when he set a world record in the men 100 meters butterfly. In general, I wonder how the United States is lucky with such mutant swimmers who turn the distribution of medals into a mere formality. Dressel alone brought 5 gold medals to the USA team, and taking into account the relay races, 7!
American should be proud to have an athlete like Caeleb Dressel who has a high enough fighting power, I think Caeleb Dressel is the real world version of Aquaman who became an American hero right now
.If I remember correctly, Phelps won 8 gold medals at one of the Olympiads, and Dressel has yet to surpass this record. At this Olympiad, he had no such opportunity because he participated in 7 types of competitions and won gold everywhere, I think if he participated in 8 types of competitions, he would have already repeated this record.
In general, it is quite surprising that Phelps used to seem like an alien, but just a few years after his departure, there is a swimmer who begins to break his records and as a result turns into an even more dominant swimmer than him.
LOL.. why repeat the same set of lies again and again?
The gold was shared, because both the athletes were tired and decided against the "jump-off". Al Jazeera and the other Qatari-funded media immediately went ballistic, claiming that the gold given to the Italian athlete was "donated" by the Qatari. The truth is this - Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi had cleared 2.37m, but they failed to clear 2.39m on three occasions. And given how tired they were, I would say either of them had 0% chances of clearing 2.39m, even if a hundred attempts were given. So instead of doing that, they decided to share the gold medal.
The truth doesn't always suit the narrative.
The gold was shared, because both the athletes were tired and decided against the "jump-off". Al Jazeera and the other Qatari-funded media immediately went ballistic, claiming that the gold given to the Italian athlete was "donated" by the Qatari. The truth is this - Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi had cleared 2.37m, but they failed to clear 2.39m on three occasions. And given how tired they were, I would say either of them had 0% chances of clearing 2.39m, even if a hundred attempts were given. So instead of doing that, they decided to share the gold medal.
The truth doesn't always suit the narrative.
You are wrong! And you don't know the rules of that game.
In the high jump, when two athletes reach a height tied and fail to overtake, the pole drops to the previous measurement. If at the end of the three attempts, no one manages to overtake, the pole continues to descend. If they are tied, it goes back up. And so on.
Besides, athletes are longtime friends:
https://worldathletics.org/competitions/olympic-games/news/barshim-tamberi-friendship-tokyo-olympics-gold
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