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legendary
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China is giving tough competition to United states when it comes to the gold medal and overall medal race. We have now 3 years before the next Olympics and there is very much possibility that in that Olympic, china will take the lead over united states. This will be an historic moment in history, if it happens.

This time the European and American teams were at a disadvantage, because the Games took place in Asia. But the next edition is scheduled to take place in Paris, and therefore the disadvantage should be for Asian teams like China and Japan. And I have serious doubts regarding the future of China in sports. Their population is rapidly ageing, and this reduces the player pool. 

I am pretty sure that it has 0 impact on the performances of the american and european athletes that the olympic games where in japan this time. The athletes arrive early enough to the Games that jet lag is no longer a problem once the competitions begin. Nowadays, everything is scientifically and medically planned. The European and American athletes would not have performed better on their home continent. For the spectators from Europe, of course, it was not ideal because a competition day began at night time and when people usually came home from work it ended, so from this point of view the competitions took place at exactly the wrong time.

You are right, for now what I do believe is that countries like China and Japan have raised their level in sport a lot, I also know that in the different disciplines that Asian countries had deficiencies they have taken into account to improve it, for example. In women's volleyball, for years they have looked for women who are tall and who are already training them in the sport, they have launched initiatives to train them in this regard, Asian countries are taking all the provisions to highlight the competitions of high level much more, this is good, so the competition increases its level enormously worldwide, the hegemony of the USA and the European countries is lagging behind.
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China is giving tough competition to United states when it comes to the gold medal and overall medal race. We have now 3 years before the next Olympics and there is very much possibility that in that Olympic, china will take the lead over united states. This will be an historic moment in history, if it happens.

This time the European and American teams were at a disadvantage, because the Games took place in Asia. But the next edition is scheduled to take place in Paris, and therefore the disadvantage should be for Asian teams like China and Japan. And I have serious doubts regarding the future of China in sports. Their population is rapidly ageing, and this reduces the player pool. 

I am pretty sure that it has 0 impact on the performances of the american and european athletes that the olympic games where in japan this time. The athletes arrive early enough to the Games that jet lag is no longer a problem once the competitions begin. Nowadays, everything is scientifically and medically planned. The European and American athletes would not have performed better on their home continent. For the spectators from Europe, of course, it was not ideal because a competition day began at night time and when people usually came home from work it ended, so from this point of view the competitions took place at exactly the wrong time.
legendary
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China is giving tough competition to United states when it comes to the gold medal and overall medal race. We have now 3 years before the next Olympics and there is very much possibility that in that Olympic, china will take the lead over united states. This will be an historic moment in history, if it happens.

This time the European and American teams were at a disadvantage, because the Games took place in Asia. But the next edition is scheduled to take place in Paris, and therefore the disadvantage should be for Asian teams like China and Japan. And I have serious doubts regarding the future of China in sports. Their population is rapidly ageing, and this reduces the player pool. 
legendary
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Yes, it will be in February the Winter Olympics - Beijing 2022.
https://olympics.com/en/beijing-2022/

Being in China, and the way they organize themselves, there is a good chance that there are already spectators. There may be restrictions on audiences coming from other countries.

As you know, in China, monstrous totalitarian measures are being taken when cases of coronavirus appear. I will look with interest at how this will be combined with the Olympiad and a huge number of foreign guests. Plus, now it will be interesting to see how Japan will survive this Olympiad - in theory, such an event should contribute to the large-scale spread of the coronavirus.
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The final medal standings for the Olympics 2020. As expected, united states managed to get most medals.

But they only managed to have one more gold medal than China.
I think it was the Olympic Games, where the US performed well below what was expected.


Although the total number of medals was similar to Rio2016, there were 7 fewer gold medals. While China another 12 gold medals.
I think the Paris 2024 Olympic Games will be super interesting and competitive.


China is giving tough competition to United states when it comes to the gold medal and overall medal race. We have now 3 years before the next Olympics and there is very much possibility that in that Olympic, china will take the lead over united states. This will be an historic moment in history, if it happens.
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I've figured that out when I watched a video that came from someone who lives there. I love to watch videos about their culture and almost everything about them. That's for real when before Olympics was about to happen and I think their government was already aware of the possible surge in cases and it really did but they're reminding their citizens to still take care of themselves despite they've encouraged many of their citizens to travel. It's only for their citizens no foreign tourists are allowed. I don't know if they are still pushing that these days.

Japan is not a communist or dictator types of government but they're raise really have a good respect to the government.

I also love watching videos about their culture and even how they workout in times like this, even Covid is also hitting them but they
manage to work well and lessen the numbers of dying citizens.
Thanks to them for bringing the olympics even there's no real audiences but still they managed to finished it. Till then..
Of course, they are not that type of government. They just want to encourage their people so that their economy won't have any problems. Despite not having that many audiences, there is much coverage that has happened worldwide. It's just that the timing is no good due to covid restrictions. But it will still have a good result for their economy as they've made that much budget just to pursue Olympics this year because there was news in the past that it shall be postponed but they did push it.
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And gone are the days when the population would blindly support such huge spending, just because of national pride. People still support sports, but at a lower level compared to the case two decades back.

That's true. That's why France says it's going to bring the Olympic Games to the streets, claiming it's to be greener and involve the population. This can certainly be true. But I believe the main reason is not having to create so much infrastructure in order to reduce costs.
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Inflation is not an issue in Japan, because unlike the other countries the government doesn't indulge in the printing of unlimited amounts of banknotes. Also, they restrict immigration only to high-skilled labor (opposite to the cases in western nations). And this helps to reduce the government expenses. But I don't think that it will be a good idea for the government to ask their citizens to roam around, given the precarious COVID situation in the country. The age structure of the Japanese population also makes them more vulnerable to COVID.

There is a famous ad, I wish I could find it,,, about some small ice-cream on the stick that has been sold in Japan for 30-40-50 years or something like this. They had to increase the price by a few yen after all those years and you know? They had to make a TV ad for it to have the CEO and all the board bow down and ask for forgiveness.

I disagree inflaton is not an issue, but it does seem like they really really hate to inflate prices.
legendary
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That's why in 32 editions, only about 12 countries hosted the Olympic Games.
In addition to the high cost of the Olympic Games, which has to be almost entirely financed by the organizing country, there are very few countries really with an organizational capacity that allows hosting such an event.

The cost is just huge. For example, the Russian government claims that it spent around $50 billion for the winter Olympics at Sochi (the opposition claims that most of it was stolen by Putin's proxies). And this time, the Japanese government estimated the cost of hosting the games at $15.4 billion. Not many countries can afford this much expense. And gone are the days when the population would blindly support such huge spending, just because of national pride. People still support sports, but at a lower level compared to the case two decades back.
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I could cite many other countries where this would not work, either because governments would not have the capacity to organize and also because the local population would not collaborate.

That's why in 32 editions, only about 12 countries hosted the Olympic Games.
In addition to the high cost of the Olympic Games, which has to be almost entirely financed by the organizing country, there are very few countries really with an organizational capacity that allows hosting such an event.
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Really amazing to see an Olympics being held at a time of pandemic and with as much control as what we saw in Japan.
The control I say goes from the competition venues that followed strict protocols without harming the games, as well as the streets that remained empty and uncrowded.
I could cite many other countries where this would not work, either because governments would not have the capacity to organize and also because the local population would not collaborate.
But everything went well (or almost) and the event was very beautiful.
For the 2024 Olympics Paris promises the most ecological Olympics in history, a topic that is currently on the rise, including in cryptos. We will see...
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Congratulation to the USA as general champion and Japan as an organizer who has created a successful event around the Pandemic. I also thank you for Japan has shown me a beautiful city and neatness when seen it all in the last marathon event. this big capital will be returning back when tourism back to your country, this means Olympic not showing the event sport but will calling back people to come to your country.
The victory achieved at the last second, the last gold medals made the USA return as the first, congratulations also to all athletes who have struggled to get medals successfully or not all of their struggles are worthy of appreciation and also like you said for Japan who succeeded control everything well.
And it looks like this thread can be locked because the next Olympics are still waiting for 3 years so it's still quite a long time.
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I've figured that out when I watched a video that came from someone who lives there. I love to watch videos about their culture and almost everything about them. That's for real when before Olympics was about to happen and I think their government was already aware of the possible surge in cases and it really did but they're reminding their citizens to still take care of themselves despite they've encouraged many of their citizens to travel. It's only for their citizens no foreign tourists are allowed. I don't know if they are still pushing that these days.

Japan is not a communist or dictator types of government but they're raise really have a good respect to the government.

I also love watching videos about their culture and even how they workout in times like this, even Covid is also hitting them but they
manage to work well and lessen the numbers of dying citizens.
Thanks to them for bringing the olympics even there's no real audiences but still they managed to finished it. Till then..
legendary
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It will still be a memorable Olympic Games. Almost no audience, that is the first time in the history of the games that that was not allowed. We'll have the winter games out of my head in six months, won't we?
I hope at that time, spectators will be welcome.

ya.ya.yo!

Yes, it will be in February the Winter Olympics - Beijing 2022.
https://olympics.com/en/beijing-2022/

Being in China, and the way they organize themselves, there is a good chance that there are already spectators. There may be restrictions on audiences coming from other countries.
legendary
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It will still be a memorable Olympic Games. Almost no audience, that is the first time in the history of the games that that was not allowed. We'll have the winter games out of my head in six months, won't we?
I hope at that time, spectators will be welcome.

ya.ya.yo!
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Yeah, if there are visitors allowed there's for sure a boost on their economy if there are no covid-19 restrictions and there's no travel ban for other countries. But despite the covid-19, their economy didn't go into inflation and they're one of the best economies during this covid.
But I also feel them and understand what you've explained that if there's just no restriction coming from the Olympic committee, for sure Japan will benefit from it and this year is going to be a big year for the economy. I've watched a video that pre-Olympics, they are encouraging their citizens to travel all over Japan just to keep their economy running and the government will provide some benefits and allowance for them.

Inflation is not an issue in Japan, because unlike the other countries the government doesn't indulge in the printing of unlimited amounts of banknotes. Also, they restrict immigration only to high-skilled labor (opposite to the cases in western nations). And this helps to reduce the government expenses. But I don't think that it will be a good idea for the government to ask their citizens to roam around, given the precarious COVID situation in the country. The age structure of the Japanese population also makes them more vulnerable to COVID.
I've figured that out when I watched a video that came from someone who lives there. I love to watch videos about their culture and almost everything about them. That's for real when before Olympics was about to happen and I think their government was already aware of the possible surge in cases and it really did but they're reminding their citizens to still take care of themselves despite they've encouraged many of their citizens to travel. It's only for their citizens no foreign tourists are allowed. I don't know if they are still pushing that these days.
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Yeah, if there are visitors allowed there's for sure a boost on their economy if there are no covid-19 restrictions and there's no travel ban for other countries. But despite the covid-19, their economy didn't go into inflation and they're one of the best economies during this covid.
But I also feel them and understand what you've explained that if there's just no restriction coming from the Olympic committee, for sure Japan will benefit from it and this year is going to be a big year for the economy. I've watched a video that pre-Olympics, they are encouraging their citizens to travel all over Japan just to keep their economy running and the government will provide some benefits and allowance for them.

Inflation is not an issue in Japan, because unlike the other countries the government doesn't indulge in the printing of unlimited amounts of banknotes. Also, they restrict immigration only to high-skilled labor (opposite to the cases in western nations). And this helps to reduce the government expenses. But I don't think that it will be a good idea for the government to ask their citizens to roam around, given the precarious COVID situation in the country. The age structure of the Japanese population also makes them more vulnerable to COVID.
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True to that, the situation that the world has been going is tough yet Japan just made this year's Olympics awesome. They have seriously alloted a huge budget on this event. $15.4 billion was the alloted budget that Japan did for this historical sporting event according to this source: (https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-tokyo-olympics-staggering-price-tag-and-where-it-stands-in-history-11627049612)
Now, Paris has also officially taken and accepted the torch for 2024.

The Japanese economy is in stagnant mode for the last few decades and they were hoping for a boost from the Olympic Games. Unfortunately, visitors were not allowed and therefore despite spending huge amounts, they failed to reap the benefits from the Games. And now several questions are being raised, about the spike in COVID 19 infection rates, which many believe is at least partially triggered by the Olympics. Performance by the Japanese athletes were up to the mark, and they finished third this time (compared to the sixth position they received in 2016).
Yeah, if there are visitors allowed there's for sure a boost on their economy if there are no covid-19 restrictions and there's no travel ban for other countries. But despite the covid-19, their economy didn't go into inflation and they're one of the best economies during this covid.
But I also feel them and understand what you've explained that if there's just no restriction coming from the Olympic committee, for sure Japan will benefit from it and this year is going to be a big year for the economy. I've watched a video that pre-Olympics, they are encouraging their citizens to travel all over Japan just to keep their economy running and the government will provide some benefits and allowance for them.
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True to that, the situation that the world has been going is tough yet Japan just made this year's Olympics awesome. They have seriously alloted a huge budget on this event. $15.4 billion was the alloted budget that Japan did for this historical sporting event according to this source: (https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-tokyo-olympics-staggering-price-tag-and-where-it-stands-in-history-11627049612)
Now, Paris has also officially taken and accepted the torch for 2024.

The Japanese economy is in stagnant mode for the last few decades and they were hoping for a boost from the Olympic Games. Unfortunately, visitors were not allowed and therefore despite spending huge amounts, they failed to reap the benefits from the Games. And now several questions are being raised, about the spike in COVID 19 infection rates, which many believe is at least partially triggered by the Olympics. Performance by the Japanese athletes were up to the mark, and they finished third this time (compared to the sixth position they received in 2016).
legendary
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it will be interesting to know why this is happening,
What else could it be? Other Olympians were better prepared or simply more talented than their US counterparts. We don't need to overthink this unless there are people who are looking at poor judging or possible cheating.
Under normal circumstances you would be right but taking into account there was and there is a pandemic in the middle of all of this I wonder if this had anything to do with it, after all athletes train themselves to be at their top shape at the Olympics so they have a higher chance to win a medal, did the delay of a whole year and the uncertainty of not knowing if the games will be suspended at the last minute took a toll on the US athletes? That is a possibility that is worth exploring.

i can say, the delay has significant impact in terms of mental health of these athletes, not only in US athletes but all the others too. i watched one interview of hidilyn diaz of PH, who won gold in weight lifting, and the delay really did affect her in terms of mental health. it is good that they have psychiatrist in-house. so yeah, definitely, the delay took a toll to most athletes.
but a big round of applause to japan for completing this historic event. they have had a lot of troubles owed to pandemic but they did successfully finish this event.

I agree, the delay and extension of the schedule really took a toll on most athletes, not just medal contender athletes but everyone. Hidilyn was one case, but still she did what she has to do for her country. Imagining, training away from your family for years and then the pandemic happens as she was trap outside because of her training. Next is in Paris so hopefully this pandemic has been somewhat in control in the next 4 years.
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