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Quote from: Oasisman on November 28, 2021, 04:02:11 AM

You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided.

Online court or physical court, only if that casino in question is operational and licensed in your country then you can drag them to legal procedure. When they are not legally binding to your country then your laws may not restrict or punish them in any means. Similarly, in this community also, if a casino decided not to maintain their reputation here then we cannot do anything about their past scams and for future we can suggest this community to avoid them completely.

Quote from: Oasisman on November 28, 2021, 04:02:11 AM

This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone.

I agree this forum must be one of the effective community to provide justice for scam accusation but for a fiat based casino, this forum got nothing to do except marking that casino as a scammy one.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

I believe you are in the right community when it comes to concerns about fraud gambling websites.
You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided.
This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 28, 2021, 12:05:27 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 27, 2021, 11:05:31 PM

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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.

If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out.

If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts.

Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future.
I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply.

Maybe they can implement the fiat online gambling with the help from the local regulations but I am not sure if they can do that for the online crypto gambling that does not require KYC, which all people are playing gambling anonymously. That will not be easy knowing who is behind on that account in the casino and the casino owner will not come out to the public. So online casino courts will not be easy to implement soon because that will cross the border between two country regulations.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 27, 2021, 11:05:31 PM

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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.

If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out.

If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts.

Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future.
I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 27, 2021, 05:39:20 PM

I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise.

No he will not put fire in His own House , because if there is someone who wanted their company to get burned it is not Him.

that's why i see no reason for Him to ask this court because surely His company will be the first to suffer.

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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.

If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out.

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Quote from: 24Kt on November 27, 2021, 04:45:33 PM

So in the end, you are responsible of where you play.

+1 to this.

While being responsible for the safety of our funds, be responsible also to only spend them on trustworthy sites. As a crypto-gambler, we should already know that we are playing anonymous here and once the site fuc*ed us up, it's the end now and there's nothing we can do about it.

But honestly, in some cases, the site is right where they tagged their users as violating their Terms of Service. Since we don't know every side of the story, we can't comment if that site is really honest or just creating an issue for that involved user. In that particular situation, a site representative shall explain all the details of why it ends up banning its users to make it clear at both parties.

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Quote from: Masplanc on November 27, 2021, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: Oceat on November 27, 2021, 03:17:37 PM

It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?

I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.

That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court.

Yeah its true on which there would be lots of adjustments would really be needed on this one knowing that setting off a court specially online wouldnt really be that simple which simply means that it would really need to be on systematic way and also we do already have cybercrime division which i do see for it to be enough yet its not really necessary nor much required because everything could be included on the scope
of our current courts so i dont see for another division particularly on online cases.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 27, 2021, 05:39:20 PM

I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.

We truly understand OP's intention. It will serve a good purpose only if things are all easy. But the said proposal is like turning the crypto-gambling into government-owned operations since it's now handling a legal case. We need the cooperation of the government for that to become possible.

Next time, OP needs to be careful when choosing a good platform to avoid those bad and worst experiences in the future. Choose from truly reputable sites as low chance that these sites will be turned into a scam in exchange for the reputation they build for several years. It's hard to attain trust from most users. It's not a thing they can throw away easily.

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I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.

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Quote from: Masplanc on November 27, 2021, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: Oceat on November 27, 2021, 03:17:37 PM

It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?

I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.

That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court.

And besides who will give the salary of those people that will form this organization? This idea is great but in reality, hard to implement. One casino alone is hard to handle, what more of these existing online casinos including the fly-by-night casinos. So in the end, you are responsible of where you play. At least make a quick search about the casino, and read the published reviews. If you are not convinced, then try playing small on the site. Nowadays, there are so many options now where to play online.

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Quote from: Masplanc on November 27, 2021, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: Oceat on November 27, 2021, 03:17:37 PM

It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?

I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.

That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court.

There is no much work needed here because everyone needs transparency and clean services once a system is put in place to check mate gambling sites, its operators and clients then a regulatory body who would ensure all things are properly put in place for sure things would just work out as supposes the rate at which complaints are going around gambling sites is becoming too alarming

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Quote from: Oceat on November 27, 2021, 03:17:37 PM

It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?

I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.

That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 26, 2021, 05:46:40 PM

I have to say "Nice point Rengga Jati"!

At the same time, I will have to quote one of my dear friends Efi"

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The Crypto gambling scene is a wild west!

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Yeah, we cannot deny this fact, some bad reviews will warn us to review again the gambling platform, moreover if there are many similar bad reviews with strong evidence. I am sure that we will think several times to use that kind of gambling platform.
Wouldn't it be better to avoid it than fall into it, right? Cheesy

And yes, gambling is wild enough. Once we cannot manage ourselves, we will fall into bad sides of gambling.'
Once the platform cannot keep the users' trust, reputations, and solve the problems, they will fall into bigger problems with that kind of accusations.
Building and developing a reputation is very difficult, destroying it is very easy.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

That would be helpful but license providers should have a standard rule to follow so there will be a standard implementation of rules. An online court would be beneficial but it's not easy to realize since crypto itself is not yet fully regulated. For now, since we choose to gamble in crypto gambling sites, we have to deal with the risk, if we lose money because we get scammed, we should be ready to move on as recovering it is almost impossible especially if the site is gone.

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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?

I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.

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Quote from: harizen on November 26, 2021, 05:49:39 PM

To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.

I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone.
But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.

Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face.

Agree with you both. The moment we enter and consider playing at crypto gambling sites, we already accept that if ever there's something wrong about the site, we can't file a case against them or there's something we can rely on to file a complaint. It's better that we do our part to stay safe just by choosing a good-running gambling site that's already operating for a long and has already built a good reputation, not just here in the forum, but to other community discussions as well.

The best to do is to always play at legit casinos, as you stated. However, to file a lawsuit against a gambling platform isn't impossible, especially if you have gathered enough proof against them. The only problem are the costs of filling this lawsuit from the beginning to the end of the case. I believe if there were a friendly lawyer who coincidentally lived in the country where the casino is located, it would make total sense to go ahead on this action. In the end the suitor could just share the indemnity paid by the casino with his lawyer, as previously agreed.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

It is a bad idea, if the amount of money is big enough then the case could be judged in a court of law which is the right place to settle those kind of disputes between two sides that both believe they are right, however if the case is small then it is OK for each person to take a look at the case and make their own conclusions about what happened.

This is what happens in this forum, with the difference that we have a set of individuals that have been selected among the community and which their judgment holds more weight, but at the end of the day each person can look at the evidence and agree or disagree with them.

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In my country we've got Mobile courts. Similar to caravan, vehicles were arranged same as court. These mobile courts won't be dealing with major cases. Mostly this court is used to give punishment on driving violation and other penalties for simple mistakes like violation of signal and so on. Other than this we've got cybercrime section, whatever the case we give will never receive any further updates. So, the technology is flawed by man to ease his work and make the people suffer. Same as this, if gambling court is begun for operation, surely it'll go out of usage within specific time frame.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 27, 2021, 07:46:04 AM

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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends

We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation.

Things like this seem to be a little inconvenient because indeed every gambler will have different opinions about the sites being discussed because there are indeed some gamblers who will indeed be favored in several sites on the other hand there will be a loss. So, we will not be able to expect much about it.
maybe the better side is that we do things ourselves and don't go directly to gambling but research it first

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

If gambling is legal in your country and the gambling site that you are using is already registered then you have to understand for a fact that you can apply for a case online since most of the times the governmental bodies have online FIR and then you can also publish them and find your solutions if other people had the similar probelms as well. Now a days social media has also become a very powerful platform as well. Most of the companies are able to show their services through how well they support their customers through.

I always prefer:
Playing on already known site with good reputation
Trying out new sites without negative trust who are involved in campaigns

This generally helps and you can also go to their personal thread and see if there are any problems as well.

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