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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 05:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

The concept is good but the problem will be the implementation, will all online casinos agree to be under this so-called accredited court, who are paying these judges of this online court, and what's the guaranty that this online accredited court will not be corrupted, what I mean is how are we going to audit the auditor and what kind of law will they apply, there are so many questions and every answer will be met by doubts.

When it comes to playing online we have to do due diligence on the reputation of the online casino that we're playing and be quick to share if the casino is doing something wrong and let the community judge or render a decision if the casino is still worth playing.

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Great idea... with loads of flaws!

1. What law has jurisdiction over all casinos?
2. Who will pay the judges that would preside over these court cases?
3. How will these courts get access to casino data? (bet history / proof of fairness etc?)
4. Some casino operators are anonymous. (Example : Wetsuit - Freebitco.in)
5. What will they be charged with and which countries laws are they breaking?

So, answer me these questions and then we can start talking about the other options that might be more effective. (Review sites/Scam accusation threads on this forum/Consumer protection sites)

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If we build that one, it will probably take a long time before the court can settle the case, you don't know much about court proceedings don't you? Most court stuff don't finish really quick like in the movies, it takes a lot of paperwork to process one case now if it's an issue with online gambling then with a lot of complainants, we will definitely see things are going to be easily settled unlike what we currently have now in regards to resolving the issue.

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Quote from: samcrypto on November 27, 2021, 08:50:47 AM

Don't trust review site that much better to ask the gamblers about their experience on a specific site and do your own research. A regulatory body that has the power to to regulate crypto gambling site, and every participant country should have a representative just like on many international cases, we have representatives. If there's no proof on accusation then of course it can't go to the international court, but I don't think small amount of money is worth it, better to file a case if its enough to compensate the regulatory body.

It will be better if there is a organization who will have this in each country, as online gambling widened many scammers became interested to track it. Newbies and those who are not aware in crypto get easily victimized. If there will be a organization tha will focus on it the development and process of it can be much better for users and newbies. It’s normal now that gamblers use online transactions and crypto so it can be a time now to have one.

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Online court?? How would that even operate, who are the people who will be in charge, lawyers?
What would will be okay is to have a panel that controls and regulate gambling company that can be in charge of scam accusation. If any scam accusation by any gambling company is reported by this panel with a prove. Then this panel will have the right to give charge.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 05:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

although this is a good idea but it will be very difficult to form because gambling problems are related to the authorities in each country. but if we want an online gambling court that form, it must be truly fair, and regardless of which country the complainant is from.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 27, 2021, 09:02:12 AM

I remember there are forums to take care of such fraud in forex industry. Here in this forum as well people will try to provide you a resolution if a casino's representative is available here. In my opinion, open discussion based resolution will be appropriate as it will not be misused and there will be no cost to anyone. But, the catch here is, we need to play only on the crypto casinos which are concerning about their reputation on this forum. This is like playing on a licensed casino hence not a hard rule for following.

Simply, choosing a reputed crypto casino that is having their official active topic here will address your concern as if you face any problem then you can open a topic with all details in scam accusation section where this community will investigate based on all the proof you provide to a resolution.

That's severely limited to casinos here though, and most of them are even crypto casinos, online casinos that use fiat aren't included on the list no? Plus it has no legality included. The idea is really nice tbh, but an online court is not something we'd exactly need since it needs a centralized organization around it. It pretty much says that ALL types of casinos should be licensed and registered to that organization so that they can keep track,, and when issues arise, they can then do the court stuff about it. Highly doubt it would be allowed, different countries have different laws about gambling after all.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 05:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

I remember there are forums to take care of such fraud in forex industry. Here in this forum as well people will try to provide you a resolution if a casino's representative is available here. In my opinion, open discussion based resolution will be appropriate as it will not be misused and there will be no cost to anyone. But, the catch here is, we need to play only on the crypto casinos which are concerning about their reputation on this forum. This is like playing on a licensed casino hence not a hard rule for following.

Simply, choosing a reputed crypto casino that is having their official active topic here will address your concern as if you face any problem then you can open a topic with all details in scam accusation section where this community will investigate based on all the proof you provide to a resolution.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 27, 2021, 08:46:04 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on November 27, 2021, 06:44:19 AM

This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends

We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation.

Don't trust review site that much better to ask the gamblers about their experience on a specific site and do your own research. A regulatory body that has the power to to regulate crypto gambling site, and every participant country should have a representative just like on many international cases, we have representatives. If there's no proof on accusation then of course it can't go to the international court, but I don't think small amount of money is worth it, better to file a case if its enough to compensate the regulatory body.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on November 27, 2021, 06:44:19 AM

This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends

We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation.

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A regulated body like this online gambling court should be governed from someone and as long as it is governed from someone it is prone to bribery.If this online gambling court is really implemented (which I highly doubt it will ever will) most likely it will do more bad rather than good to online gambling because of that being prone to bribery.Most likely online casinos even if they were scam they would pay the persons or some person running this gambling court and most probably the players would never get back what righteously is their property,i.e Bitcoin or cryptos and would most of the time lose their battle against the casino.

Let me make you an example from our world that we live in,tell me one son or daughter of a leader of a country that have been caught cheating and punished like they should.In some isolated cases they have just been put away from politics like the 200 mln EUROS case in Austria with a politician I don't remember the name now but he just quit from the party and no jail for him.The same happens with this online gambling court,probably one very good idea but impossible to implement as good as the intentions are.

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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 27, 2021, 05:23:25 AM

Quote from: Gosgosking on November 27, 2021, 04:37:36 AM

This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.

A good idea but hard to implement. Expect that some personal information will be needed for filing a case. It also needs to be well-funded and I doubt it can monitor all gambling sites. Crypto doesn't have any central authority and you have to understand that. Like anyone is saying here, stick with the well-reputable site for us to minimize being in a big issue dealing with them.

Yeah and its hard to get the personal information especially mostly all of online personalities hides their true identity especially those scammers so its hard to sue them so maybe before they implement this maybe they need to regulate first all the online casino since maybe from that they can easily trace the owner if they will execute their scam schemes online. Yeah and its always been advise that we should stick on reputable site since they are tested already.

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 26, 2021, 07:43:21 PM

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This is where that license first impressions do really happen but we know that this isn't on everything because anyone could really rigged up and scam out their players money which with due to this anonymous market then its really hard to trace it upon.
It wont really be guaranteeing everything that's why we should really be careful on dealing with things.
Stick into those reputable ones and you would really be saving up yourself into problems.

It's the only solution if you want to be at a safer place when you gamble. You can avoid the newer ones because many of them are high risk.

Quote from: $crypto$ on November 26, 2021, 07:54:37 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 26, 2021, 07:43:21 PM

I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone.
But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.

For me there is still no online court that is only a community with what you mention, as far as I know in any case on the internet no one is tried by this online court it will be very difficult how to prove it.
For me, if you believe in a forum that already has a good reputation, then it's better to follow the flow that other people are doing, including gambling, which has a lot of good reputation in this forum, do you not believe what the forum provides as a promotion?

It's not formal if there's going to have an online court and what I've said is just going to be a community that will give us tips on which casinos we should avoid. That's like what we're having right now because if there's a court then there's a higher govern that will decide which is going to be banned, but they can do that? I doubt it.

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 26, 2021, 07:43:21 PM

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Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face.

Yeah, too many crypto casinos now that are reputable and you don't have to be problematic about experiencing a problem. If there is, then that's going to be just minor problems.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on November 27, 2021, 04:37:36 AM

This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.

A good idea but hard to implement. Expect that some personal information will be needed for filing a case. It also needs to be well-funded and I doubt it can monitor all gambling sites. Crypto doesn't have any central authority and you have to understand that. Like anyone is saying here, stick with the well-reputable site for us to minimize being in a big issue dealing with them.

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Quote from: timerland on November 26, 2021, 07:36:24 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 05:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

Where does the funding come from?

Who will be the enforcer?

There are simply way too many legal and logistical overheads for this idea to work, imho. The best that we can do in this direction is really industry self-regulation, which is probably not necessarily the best thing.

What you've asked is already given in the second page and here i will quote for you ,

Quote from: Darker45 on November 25, 2021, 08:55:51 PM

And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

Those valid question is indeed the most important of this initiative , i truly support the Idea as i have some friends that becomes a victim in the past and there are many more happening now , they have nowhere to go in filing cases .

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This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.

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Online gambling court for every country or universal court for all the country residents?

This is a concept which is not practical to implement and every country has their own laws to protect their citizens from scams so if anyone wants to go to the court then it should be their respective country.

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Quote from: michellee on November 26, 2021, 11:30:29 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 26, 2021, 07:43:21 PM

Quote from: harizen on November 26, 2021, 06:49:39 PM

To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.

I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone.
But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.

Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face.

Agree with you both. The moment we enter and consider playing at crypto gambling sites, we already accept that if ever there's something wrong about the site, we can't file a case against them or there's something we can rely on to file a complaint. It's better that we do our part to stay safe just by choosing a good-running gambling site that's already operating for a long and has already built a good reputation, not just here in the forum, but to other community discussions as well.

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 26, 2021, 07:43:21 PM

Quote from: harizen on November 26, 2021, 06:49:39 PM

To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.

I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone.
But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.

Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face.

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