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copper member
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November 26, 2021, 10:31:27 AM
#32
'Online gambling courts' arguably exist in regulated areas generally, where said companies have a license. Whether you call it a 'court' or not, there are rules and procedures that must be followed and if broken result in some sort of action.

To police the current crypto space with something like that is close to impossible, because we live in a multi state/cultural society and laws are different everywhere. And that would just be the start of the issues with this idea.

Within the current climate you always reach a kind of equilibrium where some sort of policing is done and that is in the way of reviews, reputation and forums. Anything further hasn't been done because it just wouldn't be worthwhile for anyone.

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November 26, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
#31
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
It is hard to have an online court as players and the casino owner will not want to show their identity and stay behind the wall. Besides that, how will the punishment be given to those who are guilty?

It needs a local regulator to investigate the proof and visit the casino owner and the player to ask about the scam or cheating. I think that will be difficult since the player is not lived in the same country or jurisdiction as the casino.
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November 26, 2021, 05:10:49 AM
#30
And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.
It is indeed that OP has a great views on what can be done in gambling to keep safe players interests against Gambling sites abused .

But also it is really hard to implement such as like the points  you mentioned it is even harder to ask who will pay them for their services because if they will do this in good faith then there must be under the table will happen soon.
legendary
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November 26, 2021, 02:57:37 AM
#29
And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

Yeah... Impossible to put it into practice. You are not going to get all countries to agree and even if you do, there will always be sites on which you will not be able to act, if they act in the DW for example. The OP's thinking is very nice in theory but impossible to implement in practice.
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November 26, 2021, 02:52:41 AM
#28
And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

I agree I have no idea how this going to be set up and what's governing body will set it up, we have different license issuers and every country has different rules and laws regarding gambling, and who will audit the auditor, it's much easier if it's an offline casino but different if it's an online one, I prefer and believe that the community of players or gamblers be the judge based on the accuracy of the proofs and pieces of evidence, gambling is a game of trust, casinos can easily lose their business if they lose gambler's trust.
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November 26, 2021, 01:33:50 AM
#27
There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
This is certainly good for all of us , but the problem is how would this be implemented and who will handle the course?

The point @Darker25 mentioned are very important in this part.

How can this be implemented if there  are so many grounds to consider.

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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
Yes , this is how similar most of the gambling site issues now.
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November 26, 2021, 01:27:41 AM
#26
Cases like that have been happening for years, especially on online gambling sites, the war between players and gambling sites is unstoppable, everyone is selfish with each other, everyone wants to win, no one wants to lose, the gambling side wants to defend themselves and the players also defend themselves, that's gambling, no one wins and no one loses, why do people still want to play (lust) that's human.

There are certain factors that make them clash between players and online gambling sites.
1. Losing players don't want to accept defeat, war begins.
2. The gambling site, doesn't want to pay when the player wins to the highest level, self-defense occurs.

However, not all online gambling sites are rotten-hearted and not bad-hearted gamblers, there are gambling sites that honestly pay all wins and there are players who are aware that I am losing and have to accept that it is gambling.

All cases of fights, accusations, mutual wars return to yourself and it is recommended to choose an online gambling site that has a good reputation and is responsible both from within and from outside, crux of the matter.
Like you have written, some losing players would never want to admit defeat which is always the contrary of what the Court or the hearers would expect. It is much difficult for online court to exist cause gambling platforms would always accuse the players of violation of their terms and conditions, which is a way to suspend the the case. There are some many factors that will prohibit the exist of online court making it less active.
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November 26, 2021, 12:59:11 AM
#25
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
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November 25, 2021, 11:56:39 PM
#24
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
legendary
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November 25, 2021, 11:24:43 PM
#23


All cases of fights, accusations, mutual wars return to yourself and it is recommended to choose an online gambling site that has a good reputation and is responsible both from within and from outside, crux of the matter.

That's true it saves you time money if you play in a gambling site with a good reputation, there are always complaints about, even on a reputable gambling site, it's important that they address it in a manner that satisfies the gambling community, satisfies means they counter all accusations with proofs and do not just post
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
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November 25, 2021, 09:38:52 PM
#22
And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?
None of these set of question are answerable i guess  Grin , and if ever there is the main question is How reliable and worth trusting the court?

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This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.
and yesr Online gambling site is really hard to watch and managed .
legendary
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November 25, 2021, 07:55:51 PM
#21
And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.
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November 25, 2021, 06:55:36 PM
#20
It is Great to see that an account that advertising so many case gambling site is making this kind of thread in which is very reasonable to have,
Quite a surprising thing that on this forum users like you attack individuals based on the signature their wear and not based on the subject matter.
Having a gambling online Court should be able to all the gambling fraud and can easily backlist them from the online gambling community.
I'm not sure why you consider that as an attack since you are the one who is asking for a Gambling Court in which he mentioned to be reasonable for us to have,
so by all means he is favor for your proposition .
It is just coming from an account that advertising a company that has so much cases being filed by the victims seemingly the first to be on Trial if this happens.
and besides take it as a challenge for you to push this Court to happen and give justice either if the cases filed in your company(1xbit) is true,
or if the complainant are lying .
Do you know who is responsible for Cloudbet. They scam me for 5 BTC.
Even if he knows nothing that He can do because there are still no "Online Gambling Court" that exist .
hero member
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November 25, 2021, 06:08:20 PM
#19
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

If you are talking about crypto-gambling sites, that can't be applied. Others want anonymous gambling and don't want centralized stuff but like to take legal actions when the site is showing unprofessionalism to their actions. See what I'm trying to picture out there?

If you want that kind of setup, choose a gambling site that is registered to the government, mostly fiat sites, so you can file a lawsuit against the site.

That's right, would be hard if the OP is referring to crypto casinos.
But it can be done with fiat-based online casinos as most of them are registered to where they are operational.
But with crypto casinos where a lot of them are not requiring KYC to its customers, I don't think such court can be applied.
And yes, just play on sites registered under the supervision of the government, so filing a lawsuit may be possible.
Otherwise, you are just wasting your effort and resources when it comes to crypto casinos, even with gambling license.
legendary
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November 25, 2021, 06:03:18 PM
#18
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

If you are talking about crypto-gambling sites, that can't be applied. Others want anonymous gambling and don't want centralized stuff but like to take legal actions when the site is showing unprofessionalism to their actions. See what I'm trying to picture out there?

If you want that kind of setup, choose a gambling site that is registered to the government, mostly fiat sites, so you can file a lawsuit against the site.
hero member
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November 25, 2021, 05:45:07 PM
#17
There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
With those evidences, if a legit casino sees the legitimacy of their concern. They'll for sure be refunded and they'll take the money that they deserve. But mostly, these complains are just coming from those gamblers that can't accept that they've lost a lot.

Do you know who is responsible for Cloudbet. They scam me for 5 BTC.
They have a thread[1], go there and tell what's your complain and how did they scammed you or if you can't withdraw your balance there.

[1] Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site
sr. member
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November 25, 2021, 05:43:38 PM
#16
Do you know who is responsible for Cloudbet. They scam me for 5 BTC.
Well you are off-topic here, create your own thread on the scam accusation board and present your valid proof.
Regarding the question by the OP, it sounds good but I don't know how it will work --but having a license is enough and I think regulation of will perhaps may occur too. This is idea is indeed good but we don't know how to implement it and how can police investigate, many gambling casinos will behave on their habit that selectively scamming their users.
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November 25, 2021, 05:18:00 PM
#15
Do you know who is responsible for Cloudbet. They scam me for 5 BTC.
legendary
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November 25, 2021, 05:09:10 PM
#14
I think it is not necessary that there is any specific online court for cases involving disputes between gambling sites and customers. what needs to be done Is the following:

each country where they issue casino licenses need to have a website where people can complain about the casino which and then the authorities of that country where the person complained will refer the case to the police and will investigate the case, in case the casino actually committed the crime of having stolen the customer's money then the courts of that country that issued a license to the casino will punish the casino. I think this is something simple to create, but what is lacking is the willingness of countries that issue casino licenses to do
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November 25, 2021, 04:23:18 PM
#13
There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
You can’t question scam projects online if you are also introducing a scam project, that wont work.
International online gambling court is not possible I think because every country have their own laws about gambling and you can just go to your local court they can still help you to file an international law suit but I don’t think its worth it especially if you got scammed by small money but if we are talking about millions of money here then hire a good lawyer to work for you on this case.
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