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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

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I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

^ Then who will be the prosecutor? So it means there will be a judge to depend on both parties.
This could become a biased decision or it could be abused, this is very sensitive for everyone who we can trust to prosecute such criminal action towards the defendant or the opposite one. A community like us can be judges and there is no single person to handle such a case, proper evidence is a must too. However, your idea will probably be effective but we don't know yet where to start.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

This can be a big help however, this will take time and a lot of money to spend for having such online court. For now, if you feel unsafe and got scammed by an online gambling site you can look for their license, of their physical office so by this you can know where to file a case and sue them. I’m just wondering are you a victim of a scam site just like on your Signature OP?

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What the op thinks of setting a court for gambling issues seems to be good, when we think of the accusations and all the fraudulent acts done by a gambling platform to its users. However this can't be made effective in real-time for few reasons.

Gambling sites have the disclaimer and the terms of service. It is the users responsibility to read it, agree on it and further spend on the platform. One out of ten might read and agree to it, whereas the majority just agree and proceed. Here the argument won't support the users and in case of withdrawal stopped without any reason according to the terms of service then this court could help. Gambling is restricted in more countries. When such issues arise and people take more cases to the court, automatically the court will suggest the government to ban gambling. Why should we do that.

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Not only the players are being greedy. You will notice it right away if an issue happen to you like your withdrawal request is denied due to not obeying their rules or terms and conditions even though you didn't violate any of it. If you really are not a greedy person then you wouldn't stop a winner to withdraw his profit.

Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 08:53:23 AM

Quite a surprising thing that on this forum users like you attack individuals based on the signature their wear and not based on the subject matter.
Having a gambling online Court should be able to all the gambling fraud and can easily backlist them from the online gambling community.

Gambling sites owner will be in favor if there is a gambling court. It is also not surprising when a forum users attack another forum user base on the signature they wear. In your case, you promoted a gambling sites that have many issues and those accusations are not solved by the site owner which mean that it is not to be trusted or a scam site. In short, you are helping the site to spread their platform and have more gamblers which many of them become victims of not being paid when they requested to withdraw.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 08:53:23 AM

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Do you know the reason? why he talks like that.

Your signature casino company have the worst some case and turn into a scam casino should be avoided, I think you also know the case I was referring but still apply to the campaign because you got money and don't care to protect customer side.

Remember, you also promoted them by apply to the campaign

Quote from: mu_enrico on November 25, 2021, 08:56:41 AM

Thus, most of the time, we can only rely on the "community action," and bitcointalk is a good place to solve this issue (in a limited way). I've been here for like 3 years and see many issues resolved by the action of the community.

Still remember issue case of 330 BTC winning on Cloudbet, can be solved by community help with over 3 month Grin

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The problem is casino preys mostly small time gamblers, and this kind of people don't have money to pay attorney and stuff. Let's say they have been scammed $10k but have to pay legal fees of $100k knowing they can still lose the case and have to pay casino's legal fees. The only feasible scenario is via class action lawsuit, but that needs lots of people getting scammed (not selective scamming). Also, different jurisdiction is a problem as well.

Thus, most of the time, we can only rely on the "community action," and bitcointalk is a good place to solve this issue (in a limited way). I've been here for like 3 years and see many issues resolved by the action of the community.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

It is Great to see that an account that advertising so many case gambling site is making this kind of thread in which is very reasonable to have,

Quite a surprising thing that on this forum users like you attack individuals based on the signature their wear and not based on the subject matter.
Having a gambling online Court should be able to all the gambling fraud and can easily backlist them from the online gambling community.

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This could be really a sensitive topic I don't think it would be possible and probably the court will find it hard to sort which real and which is not and in result it will be a waste of time and effort since some users can't really accept that they lose a big amount of money some really do violated the gambling site's T&C and other kind of cases but having a online gambling court could also have a good idea too for some kind of real cases.

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The court is one sided. Only the casino can sue a player to court for fraud or multiple account usage. They are some things that cause these disputes.

1) players don't read TOS before playing games on a casino whether Live or not. Withdrawal Limits must be confirmed first before working with any Casino. If you try to withdraw all your big win and it exceeds the casino's limit for the week then your funds will get delayed. I have seen cases that players filed as fraud on casino forums, but it's a withdrawal limit dispute.

2) Usage of VPN on a casino that restricted your location can hinder your money from getting to you. Even when taken to court the case is no case because its boldly written on the website of the Casino

So, if before you joined the casino and you researched about them on Casino review sites such as (Neil Patel) recommended and it shows that the site is Scam free then your only option is to read about their rules. This alone can settle the disputes.

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Quote from: RILWAN on November 25, 2021, 04:05:54 AM

There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

It is Great to see that a account that advertising so much case gambling site is making this kind of thread in which very reasonable to have,
because indeed there are tons of cases filed by players against casino owners and same as the counter from casino sites against the players

>> Players Violating ToS = Said by casino team.

>> Casino Sites freezing/taking their Funds = Said by Players.

If this is possible to Implement? i will 100% support this Court for the benefits of all gamblers like us.

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Cases like that have been happening for years, especially on online gambling sites, the war between players and gambling sites is unstoppable, everyone is selfish with each other, everyone wants to win, no one wants to lose, the gambling side wants to defend themselves and the players also defend themselves, that's gambling, no one wins and no one loses, why do people still want to play (lust) that's human.

There are certain factors that make them clash between players and online gambling sites.
1. Losing players don't want to accept defeat, war begins.
2. The gambling site, doesn't want to pay when the player wins to the highest level, self-defense occurs.

However, not all online gambling sites are rotten-hearted and not bad-hearted gamblers, there are gambling sites that honestly pay all wins and there are players who are aware that I am losing and have to accept that it is gambling.

All cases of fights, accusations, mutual wars return to yourself and it is recommended to choose an online gambling site that has a good reputation and is responsible both from within and from outside, crux of the matter.

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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

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