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December 23, 2013, 06:18:03 PM
it's all soaked with corruption. greed is the prevailing attitude.

democrarcy in the the US is a thing of the past. a democracy with two parties, seriously? and the one with the most money wins. the system is a joke. and i think no other western nation has such an effective brainwashing machinery going to keep their people uninformed and distracted.

while at the same time i have a feeling that more and more people are waking up from the american dream and realize they are stuck with a system that only acts in favor of the 1% and abuses all the rest.

apart from that the US is an amazingly beautiful country and there are lots of awesome people over there.


 Grin
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December 21, 2013, 07:32:26 PM
Rotten beyond belief
It is easier to give a friend $100 than to give $1 each to people you don't know (if you don't believe me try it at least you will make 101 people a little happier) and so it is with government they give larges sums of money to their friend and say FU to the masses. They are not inherently mean or evil they just can't see beyond the ends of their noses. This is a problem with groups of people. 5 people can be egalitarian and help each other, communicate and know each other, it would be anathema to them to not help one of their group if they fell on hard times. 100 people is still a community but they might ignore one man down on his luck at least for a while. 1000 people will give money to charity and hope that it helps that man. 1,000,000 people could give a damn!
Society has become so large that we need to revert to small independent groups to regain our humanity.
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December 15, 2013, 07:57:57 AM
land of drons, GMO, chemtrails....

...and faux news
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December 15, 2013, 05:33:20 AM
land of drons, GMO, chemtrails....
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December 15, 2013, 03:44:41 AM
What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).



Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics

As you are giving the same characteristic to all people in the same religion you're by all means racist!
you're a lot worse than this people because they know who they are and you act like someone else altough you're a lot worse then them, you hate the muslims don't you? Smiley

meh. Being Cherokee means I don't have to care about the lesser races.

Just kidding, though I do have fun saying that when people raise this blather. My actual opinion is that all races and groups are equally worthless. It's individuals (and to a lesser extent teams and corporations) that make a difference for good or ill, and their skin color has nothing to do with it. Cultures tend to have good and bad points. That's really where the "opinion on America" falls, culture.

American culture has some very good points. We have a deep seated belief in liberty, even though the actuality of it has escaped us, and we are, as a rule, rather innovative. Or at least were. But in recent years our culture has embraced fear as something useful and desirable. This is NOT a positive. We are also extremely litigious, to the point of absurdity. This needs to go as well. We have in recent years abandoned our distrust of those in authority, and this is suicidal. Our country was founded on such distrust, and it was not misplaced. The more we cooperate and/or ignore their depredations, the bolder they get. The way the cops act now would have gotten them killed in my youth. Not by criminals, but by common citizens who felt (RIGHTLY!) that their life was not the business of a hired thug. And that's the bottom of the ladder.

Those at the top are so disconnected from the common experience as to be a separate species. Watch C-SPAN once in a while (if you can handle the mind numbing stupidity) and you'll see what I mean. They care a great deal about their power, but the know jack shit about the man on the street. And couldn't care less, other than a few months prior to polling time. Not even very much then, as the Republicrat superparty controls the voting.
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December 14, 2013, 03:42:32 PM
What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).



Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics

As you are giving the same characteristic to all people in the same religion you're by all means racist!
you're a lot worse than this people because they know who they are and you act like someone else altough you're a lot worse then them, you hate the muslims don't you? Smiley

I reserve the right to hate and kill those who display ignorance Smiley

You are getting pathetic trying to play word games and manipulate semantics (no one gives a shit about your bitching that way just so you know).

No body begged muslims or others to come to western nations. They have no right to be demanding anything, much less trying to convince themselves they are somehow 'victims'. Respect and dignity are two way streets. No one has an obligation to cater to anyone's fucking 'feelings'.

Also LOL @ 'enslaving'. I am sure your infantile bitching about how US is the enslaver is as pathetic as your self-convincing act of who is in the wrong.

You just love making bitch moves all over the place.
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December 14, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
Back in time US could be an American Dream, but now it's just a place, otherwise i still can't get in there without visa ;s

it was the american dream just because they used other countries for their own gain, now they still do but just a few poorly developed countries and they can't build up to the expectations they created with their marketing enslavement of other nations Wink
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December 14, 2013, 10:31:21 AM
Back in time US could be an American Dream, but now it's just a place, otherwise i still can't get in there without visa ;s
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December 14, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).



Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics

As you are giving the same characteristic to all people in the same religion you're by all means racist!
you're a lot worse than this people because they know who they are and you act like someone else altough you're a lot worse then them, you hate the muslims don't you? Smiley
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December 14, 2013, 06:53:02 AM
Let me try another one: we can say that it was Bush and Cheney that campaigned for the invasion of Iraq. However the media set up polls in their websites to check if Americans were pro or against invasion. The results in 2003 were clear: the people was pro-invasion. How are these not co-responsible for the chaos in Iraq afterwards?

The media is paid by government to support government agendas.  Who knows what those polls might have said if they were instead done scientifically.

Another example that supports my point.

Do you imagine that your neighbors are somehow more immune to being manipulated by your media and government authorities?
Did any of them go to state schools, or work for government?
If these authorities were telling them to be afraid on every news outlet and showing smoking skyscrapers continuously that they are somehow different and less susceptible to such influence over years of repetition?

Later polls, after the media barrage subsided show folks thought it was a mistake.
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December 14, 2013, 06:46:01 AM
What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).

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December 14, 2013, 06:28:26 AM
What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!
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December 14, 2013, 05:56:45 AM
I'd believe those men would run away scared if they see a pack of skinheads harassing a girl, instead of 'muzzies'. Anyway, you hear about gang raping mostly from India.

FIY I'm not a Muslim fan. I have an equal amount of hate towards islam, judaism and christianity. It's just in my part of Europe we are not affected by muslims in any way, I see a hijab maybe once in two years. But in turn jews are everywhere, one hand washing the other. School I went to as a kid was disbanded recently, to lessen the school amount in the capital. AND AFTER THAT THEY RENOVATED THE GODDAMN BUILDING, AND MADE IT INTO A JEWISH SCHOOL. With candelabras and everything. And mostly for taxpayers money. I mean WTF?

And while in my country jews are kinda hated, in USA they are embraced by everyone. Especially in media. Talk about zionists and conspiracies. And the lobbying, ugh. Pack of rabbis in full 'makeup' begging google or facebook, or even a white house for handouts.

Another funny thing. With the recent discovery of 'lost nazi' art. Our local jews are trying to prove one of the painting belongs to them.

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December 14, 2013, 04:41:02 AM
Tut tuting Europeans eager to assuage their broken pride by bitching at US is really just digging their own graves. We both have much to deal with in this world other than quarreling between those who are practically cousins in terms of culture, demographics (get rid of those muslims first), etc.

I hope europeans are smart enough to know they should not be alienating US purely out of some need to compensate for their lack of strength on world stage.
Some (hopefully not most) European men are eunuchs that run away scared if they see a pack of muzzies harassing a girl in their countries. I'm very well aware that women would be safer if guys from Texas or Alabama abounded in some places of Europe  Tongue

The "lack of strenght on the world stage" is something that doesn't concern most, people despise colonialism now. Not everyone wants to be influential in the Middle East or Asia. HOWEVER everyone wants to be influential inside their own country. Which isn't easy for European countries that are not much more than de-facto vassals of the U.S. (like Germany, U.K. and a few others)

There's a reason why muslim cunts don't dare try to pull this shit in US, more like trying to play second fiddle to blacks and mexicans when it comes to trying to act 'gangsta' as they call it these days (Frank Lucas and other old school gangsters might have a thing to two to say about that). We term them wannabe-negroes.

US isn't the one trying to influence european domestic policies. In fact, europe could take a page or two out of how many people in US system and public go after such ethnic-minded cunts in full force.

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December 14, 2013, 03:41:48 AM
Tut tuting Europeans eager to assuage their broken pride by bitching at US is really just digging their own graves. We both have much to deal with in this world other than quarreling between those who are practically cousins in terms of culture, demographics (get rid of those muslims first), etc.

I hope europeans are smart enough to know they should not be alienating US purely out of some need to compensate for their lack of strength on world stage.
Some (hopefully not most) European men are eunuchs that run away scared if they see a pack of muzzies harassing a girl in their countries. I'm very well aware that women would be safer if guys from Texas or Alabama abounded in some places of Europe  Tongue

The "lack of strenght on the world stage" is something that doesn't concern most, people despise colonialism now. Not everyone wants to be influential in the Middle East or Asia. HOWEVER everyone wants to be influential inside their own country. Which isn't easy for European countries that are not much more than de-facto vassals of the U.S. (like Germany, U.K. and a few others)
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December 14, 2013, 03:33:58 AM
... pretending the people of a region are to be held accountable for the actions of those governments who have power over them as if those people were personally involved in creating the worst parts of the history of the region in which they reside?
This is not particular of the U.S., but people of a region ARE to be held accountable for their governments actions, at least when dealing with 3rd countries.

Sure, except that is true exactly nowhere on the planet.
The only time it is true is immediately after a popular revolution before the power vacuum fills with the next wave of corruption.
One thing that you will learn as you travel the planet is that individuals typically have very little to do with what their political overlords are doing "in their name".


For what it's worth, I LOL'd at the "elect Ron Paul" stuff.  Even if he had support of 60% of US he would lose every national election without support of the banks or the military.  Politics doesn't work the way you think it does.  If you paid much attention to the last election, even the Republicans shunned RP.  When he would win or even come in second on a Republican primary race, he would not be even listed in the Republican news. 

The Liberals laughed at it too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8
It was something the alternative media from both sides could bond over...
http://www.infowars.com/jon-stewart-on-the-media-ignoring-ron-aul/

Ron Paul is one of the better proofs of the point I was making as to why you can not really hold any individual folks in a region responsible for what their government is doing.  You would be more likely to find a Ron Paul supporter than an Obama supporter in very large areas.  One is a political nobody, and the other is the leader of the free world.  You have the American ochlocratic democracy to thank for that, and mobs are far too easy to manipulate.  The best you can hope for is a sane and rational local politician. 
And I mentioned Ron Paul as a sort of "passing by" example.

Let me try another one: we can say that it was Bush and Cheney that campaigned for the invasion of Iraq. However the media set up polls in their websites to check if Americans were pro or against invasion. The results in 2003 were clear: the people was pro-invasion. How are these not co-responsible for the chaos in Iraq afterwards?
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December 14, 2013, 12:51:37 AM
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Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.
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"Conflates orthogonal" = an highly smartiferous verbification.

It is also one of those unusual de-anonymizing idioms, there aren't many of us that would string those together.
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December 13, 2013, 11:36:43 PM
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Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.
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"Conflates orthogonal" = an highly smartiferous verbification.
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December 13, 2013, 11:08:10 PM
I am beginning to think China is a country with more democracy then the US. I can't wait when China is the most powerful country in the world, and knock US off the rank. Roll Eyes

You may get your wish, but the recent experience of countries like the Philippines gives a preview of how much fun it is to deal with an ascendant China.

There is no doubt that US power is eroding and the NSA spying is horrible but there is still a lot of idealism in the US and its problems are on the front page for everyone to see.  Many other countries try and hide and cover up their problems often attempting to deflect blame somehow to the US.   

Actually according to the history lesson, China explore the entire world in 1405. They were peaceful and just do trading and visiting different countries. http://www.economist.com/node/5381851

Whereas, when the Westerner explore around the world in 1492. They went around conquering different countries and killing other native people to steal from them.

The reason is geographical. China can't project power over the Himalayan mountain range. This also isolated them from being attacked. Thus they turned to domestic and SE Asia domination.

But now China seeks a blue water navy. They are not there yet though. Long ways away.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA someone's never even heard of Leif Errikson and viking trans-atlantic voyages. Europeans knew about the new world before chinese even thought of sailing to middle east.

Never mind the drivel spouted by Chiasson and Menzies is a thoroughly discredited and that 'map' has been widely critiqued as a fake. Great wishful thinking, but at best that map would be a copy of earlier european and middle eastern discoveries.

Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.

Exploring is not the same as supply lines to project military power far away.

Learn what "blue water navy" means.
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