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Topic: Optiminer/Zcash v1.7 (GPU, Windows+Linux, AMD) - page 30. (Read 115948 times)

hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Can anyone drop the command line list for this miner
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.


PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0

so, you hacked the fee, but getting less on Rx 470 than with fee or i did not get your post.
I got 168mh/s long term average on MSI RX 470 on 0.6.0
I second stability of 0.6.0 on RX 470 rig(s). No impetus for unstable 1.0.1
Stability is of utmost importance for me. I don't have time to check them every hour.
I'm getting more with 0.6.0 as I get own hash + fee hash than with 1.0.1 as I'd only get my own hash (which has barely changed).
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.


PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0

so, you hacked the fee, but getting less on Rx 470 than with fee or i did not get your post.
I got 168mh/s long term average on MSI RX 470 on 0.6.0
I second stability of 0.6.0 on RX 470 rig(s). No impetus for unstable 1.0.1
Stability is of utmost importance for me. I don't have time to check them every hour.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
Optiminer 1.0.1 restart every fev minutes,
[2016-12-12 20:35:34.562] [info] Optiminer/Zcash 1.0.0 (C) Optiminer 2016
[2016-12-12 20:35:34.562] [info] WatchDog: Executing "./watchdog-cmd.sh" if any GPU is stale for more than 60s.

OM 0.6 and other miner work good.
Kubuntu 15.10/ 3*R9 390
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Optiminer works very stable.
I've been running optiminer 0.6.0 on 3 rigs 24/7 since the day it's been released without a single crash (each rig has 4 rx470).
Indeed all ethernet connected, stable connection, stock GPUs, default options.
hero member
Activity: 808
Merit: 1014
Are there any stability improvements in 1.0.1? I'm Just wondering if there's any point for me to try 1.0.1 if 0.6.0 always crashed one of my GPUs after 10-20 minutes (I got good hashrate while it lasted though).

For me both 0.6.0 and 1.0.1 have stability issues in the case of unstable Internet connection. I have 2 identical Rigs, one with ethernet cable connection and another with Wi-Fi connection to the router.

For some reason the second (Wi-Fi) connected Rig spontaneously drops Internet connection for 5-10 seconds and this results Optiminer crashed. The same Rig connected to the same router via cable has Optiminer works very stable.
legendary
Activity: 1241
Merit: 1005
..like bright metal on a sullen ground.
Are there any stability improvements in 1.0.1? I'm Just wondering if there's any point for me to try 1.0.1 if 0.6.0 always crashed one of my GPUs after 10-20 minutes (I got good hashrate while it lasted though).
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.

I honestly don't see the point of using 1.0.1. It's rather easy to circumvent the crazy fee in 0.6.0 and base hash + fee hash in 0.6.0 is above the base hash on 1.0.1 (with or without fee).
Plus optiminer now has implemented an ssl connection for his fee, connecting to his own (solo ?) mine (proxy.optiminer.pl:4041) which checks the certificate so impossible to hijack the connection now.
Trying to strace/dbg the process is crashing it so hard to say now how much fee he's pumping out of our rigs.

Long story short : I'll be sticking to 0.6.0 until there's another linux miner with a decent fee or until optiminer get his act together and adjust his with more transparency.

PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0
full member
Activity: 810
Merit: 101
I am seeing terrible performance on r9 380's... like 15 S/s...

Anyone have any suggestions?

2GB or 4GB card?
full member
Activity: 120
Merit: 100
I am seeing terrible performance on r9 380's... like 15 S/s...

Anyone have any suggestions?
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 251
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 251
it is interesting, but with new option --nodevfee mining speed is less than without it)
Same is true for Claymore's miner. The difference is that Claymore's one shows you full rate with nofee option, but obviously drops some percent of solutions (seems to be around 10% according to pool reports) instead of sending to the server (that is documented). This miner, at least, shows you true rate.
sr. member
Activity: 390
Merit: 251
Mamihlapinatapai
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash
it is interesting, but with new option --nodevfee mining speed is less than without it) And 1.0.1 version on 7980 is near 5-7% speed more than 0.6. r9 290x - without speed changes  Undecided
full member
Activity: 187
Merit: 100
Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 251
"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT
While I appreciate Optiminer's software, let me comment this from a side point of view.

Plain fact: the devfee was first mentioned in the README only in version 0.3.1 (0.3.0 and below did not contain it).
Plain fact: the size of dev fee still is not officially reported.

I went to Optiminer after Claymore stopped Linux support. I found the name of the miner and looked at github to try it. I did not look at the source and was thinking that it is an open source (since github was made for open source projects, not binary releases). There was no mention on github (original distribution source), neither in README, that it contains any dev fee. I was amazed with its performance  and even more amazed when I read on forums that there is a dev fee in addition to hash rate shown. I can agree that it maybe was stated on forums, but shouldn't it be stated on the original source site and/or README, at last, if someone concerned about it?

If you look at the github, it contains original README evolved since version 0.1.1. Only in 0.3.2 change was declared "reduced dev fee" - then it was reduced from 15% to 10%. Please take a note that this percent still is not reported and never was in the README or forums by the author, and is the result of evaluation by curious guys.

So while I am not concerned about dev fee exact value, I should confirm that something said by your opponent was correct. I am not on someone's side, but for the true facts.

Talking about competition, at least now the statement is also correct after Claymore's v9 release. It mines at 212-215 Sol/s on my 470 4GB Hynix cards (downvolted, 915W from the wall for rig of 7 cards). Older cards have even better results: 234 for 7970 (and only 185 +10% fee = 203.5 for the same card with Optiminer), 200 for 7950, 312-315 for 390X. Claymore's miner was worse on Polaris vs Optiminer, but seems it is the winner now. At least while 0.7.0 is not released. Still, since Claymore doesn't like Linux, there is no other public alternative to Optiminer yet. Since hash rates were pushed to the top, all have to follow.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Very bad.. optiminer was almost as good as claymore.. only few sols less Sad
Maybe someone can tell how to get private subscription?


THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--

And that is after the dev fee reduction.  I am mining WITH the dev fee.  This is the best miner for AMD/Linux.  The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.

You add it up.       --scryptr

It was clearly stated on the web page that the miner had a fee. And the shown rates were with fee deducted, so no user was tricked into anything. Code is not based on anything other, I wrote it myself from scratch.
That's one of the reasons why we (generally speaking) have laws for "abusive license agreement" for example.
The problem is there is asymmetric information : YOU know how much you're making, because you code it, and you chose it that way. But we don't. And that creates a completely untrustworthy context which makes people more willing to cheat you, because essentially, what you are doing is cheating us by not saying anything and parading behind a "what you see is what you get, nothing else matters".

If you're too afraid of clearly stating the fee, maybe it's because you know yourself that's its too high. And that's not how you get much support.

legendary
Activity: 2172
Merit: 1401
Very bad.. optiminer was almost as good as claymore.. only few sols less Sad
Maybe someone can tell how to get private subscription?


THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--

And that is after the dev fee reduction.  I am mining WITH the dev fee.  This is the best miner for AMD/Linux.  The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.

You add it up.       --scryptr

It was clearly stated on the web page that the miner had a fee. And the shown rates were with fee deducted, so no user was tricked into anything. Code is not based on anything other, I wrote it myself from scratch.

Regardless...you are still getting over 1k USD in dev fees from people like me that have been supporting you since day 1. Its not fair that you just pull the plug out of all the people that are paying you a ridiculous amount of money to use your miner. People will always circumvent fees, its the cost of doing business, and every dev can't get pissed off at their entire user base when a few users do this. Support the people that are supporting you, and don't worry about everything else. I would understand if you were making 10 bucks a day off this, but when your making this much the least you can do is to keep supporting the vast majority of people paying your fee. In the end you'll end up making more money this way.
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--

I followed this miner from the start, and the size of the dev fee was never stated.  It is a good miner, I use it, and I pay the outrageous dev fee.      

Don't accuse me of believing something when I merely reported it.  If the developer has a complaint, it is against the crackers.  Instead, he quit developing the best linux miner for the public.

There are hundreds of miners (at least) using this miner.  The developer has earned more than 4X Claymore's fee per miner for about one month.  Maybe he needs a 3 month vacation to cool off.       --scryptr

Are you serious?  You excuse spreading information that you don't know to be true as if it were a fact by calling it reporting?  What does the community gain from this?


Let me be more specific about things you have "reported":

"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT


Please stop and consider what you are writing.  If you don't know something to be true test it for yourself, and if you can't test for yourself consider whether you should be sharing it at all.

Once again, I recommend you go read this thread and as you will see, the specific amount of the dev fee was discovered and shared with the community on the very day the software was released.

https://forum.z.cash/t/miner-optiminer-zcash-gpu-miner-v0-6-0-new-for-both-linux-and-windows/8109


Just to be clear, I am not trying to pick on you or dissuade you from sharing information, I just ask that you validate it first....

In regards to the profit the dev has made, good for him!  He put in the effort to create something that was faster than any other alternative when it was released and which still is faster than any other alternative on Linux.  I certainly used it as well and happily paid the fee.

We all have/had a choice about using his miner or not, nobody forced us to use it and if you or I don't care for the fee we can just stop using it right?  Simple


HOGWASH--

What I stated was correct.  You can put up all the red letters that you want.  What i stated was correct.       --scryptr

Ok, I'm done wasting my time arguing with you, have a great day.

I AM HAVING A GREAT DAY--

Except for the crashing bugs that will never be worked out for a new release.  The miner works well, but on occasion a card now crashes, requiring the proper configuration of the watchdog script.  No public releases means no fix.  The developer should get back to work and fix things.  We would all benefit.  The crackers should be shut down, too.       --scryptr
rjg
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THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--

I followed this miner from the start, and the size of the dev fee was never stated.  It is a good miner, I use it, and I pay the outrageous dev fee.      

Don't accuse me of believing something when I merely reported it.  If the developer has a complaint, it is against the crackers.  Instead, he quit developing the best linux miner for the public.

There are hundreds of miners (at least) using this miner.  The developer has earned more than 4X Claymore's fee per miner for about one month.  Maybe he needs a 3 month vacation to cool off.       --scryptr

Are you serious?  You excuse spreading information that you don't know to be true as if it were a fact by calling it reporting?  What does the community gain from this?


Let me be more specific about things you have "reported":

"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT


Please stop and consider what you are writing.  If you don't know something to be true test it for yourself, and if you can't test for yourself consider whether you should be sharing it at all.

Once again, I recommend you go read this thread and as you will see, the specific amount of the dev fee was discovered and shared with the community on the very day the software was released.

https://forum.z.cash/t/miner-optiminer-zcash-gpu-miner-v0-6-0-new-for-both-linux-and-windows/8109


Just to be clear, I am not trying to pick on you or dissuade you from sharing information, I just ask that you validate it first....

In regards to the profit the dev has made, good for him!  He put in the effort to create something that was faster than any other alternative when it was released and which still is faster than any other alternative on Linux.  I certainly used it as well and happily paid the fee.

We all have/had a choice about using his miner or not, nobody forced us to use it and if you or I don't care for the fee we can just stop using it right?  Simple


HOGWASH--

What I stated was correct.  You can put up all the red letters that you want.  What i stated was correct.       --scryptr

Ok, I'm done wasting my time arguing with you, have a great day.
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--

I followed this miner from the start, and the size of the dev fee was never stated.  It is a good miner, I use it, and I pay the outrageous dev fee.      

Don't accuse me of believing something when I merely reported it.  If the developer has a complaint, it is against the crackers.  Instead, he quit developing the best linux miner for the public.

There are hundreds of miners (at least) using this miner.  The developer has earned more than 4X Claymore's fee per miner for about one month.  Maybe he needs a 3 month vacation to cool off.       --scryptr

Are you serious?  You excuse spreading information that you don't know to be true as if it were a fact by calling it reporting?  What does the community gain from this?


Let me be more specific about things you have "reported":

"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT


Please stop and consider what you are writing.  If you don't know something to be true test it for yourself, and if you can't test for yourself consider whether you should be sharing it at all.

Once again, I recommend you go read this thread and as you will see, the specific amount of the dev fee was discovered and shared with the community on the very day the software was released.

https://forum.z.cash/t/miner-optiminer-zcash-gpu-miner-v0-6-0-new-for-both-linux-and-windows/8109


Just to be clear, I am not trying to pick on you or dissuade you from sharing information, I just ask that you validate it first....

In regards to the profit the dev has made, good for him!  He put in the effort to create something that was faster than any other alternative when it was released and which still is faster than any other alternative on Linux.  I certainly used it as well and happily paid the fee.

We all have/had a choice about using his miner or not, nobody forced us to use it and if you or I don't care for the fee we can just stop using it right?  Simple


HOGWASH--

What I stated was correct.  You can put up all the red letters that you want.  What i stated was correct.       --scryptr
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