Topic: Optiminer/Zcash v1.7 (GPU, Windows+Linux, AMD) - page 31. (Read 115930 times)

Are you serious?  You excuse spreading information that you don't know to be true as if it were a fact by calling it reporting?  What does the community gain from this?


Let me be more specific about things you have "reported":

"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT


Please stop and consider what you are writing.  If you don't know something to be true test it for yourself, and if you can't test for yourself consider whether you should be sharing it at all.

Once again, I recommend you go read this thread and as you will see, the specific amount of the dev fee was discovered and shared with the community on the very day the software was released.

https://forum.z.cash/t/miner-optiminer-zcash-gpu-miner-v0-6-0-new-for-both-linux-and-windows/8109


Just to be clear, I am not trying to pick on you or dissuade you from sharing information, I just ask that you validate it first....

In regards to the profit the dev has made, good for him!  He put in the effort to create something that was faster than any other alternative when it was released and which still is faster than any other alternative on Linux.  I certainly used it as well and happily paid the fee.

We all have/had a choice about using his miner or not, nobody forced us to use it and if you or I don't care for the fee we can just stop using it right?  Simple

THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--

I followed this miner from the start, and the size of the dev fee was never stated.  It is a good miner, I use it, and I pay the outrageous dev fee.      

Don't accuse me of believing something when I merely reported it.  If the developer has a complaint, it is against the crackers.  Instead, he quit developing the best linux miner for the public.

There are hundreds of miners (at least) using this miner.  The developer has earned more than 4X Claymore's fee per miner for about one month.  Maybe he needs a 3 month vacation to cool off.       --scryptr

Don't believe everything you read, test for yourself when possible and make your own conclusions.  Reporting things that you have not tested yourself leads to the spreading of misinformation and adds to the confusion.

The dev fee at the launch of the miner was about 15% and during that time it was FAR faster than any alternative on Windows or Linux.  This was documented on the same day that the software was released, before you make these accusations and spread this information please take the time to do your own research and at least review the original thread on the ZCash forum where all of this was discussed and documented.


Currently, the sum of the miner output, including the dev fee is above Claymore's output when I test Optiminer on Linux.

On RX480 8GB, I receive ~192H/s, add to that the 10% fee and you are at ~211H/s.

With the same cards using Claymore on Windows, it generates ~200H/s

I AM GLAD THAT YOU INSPECTED THE CODE--

I would not know how.  I reported what I read in the cracker's thread.

And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee.       --scryptr

THE FEE NOW IS 10% --

While the miner could see the hash rate that he was earning, the miner was not told the size of the dev fee.  It was not stated on the opening page (OP) of this thread, nor at the GitHub site.

I still do not know the size of the dev fee prior to its reduction.

I am mining with the current dev fee.       --scryptr

Do you usually believe people who are full of shit?
export AMD_OCL_BUILD_OPTIONS_APPEND=-save-temps
Then run Optiminer, and look at the _temp*.isa files.  It was nothing like SilentArmy when I looked at it.  eXtremal actually went through the assembly in detail to see why it was/is faster than SilentArmy.

Uhh...  This was known and stated by the dev on the first day it was available.  He stated it both on the ZCash forum thread and on the github page.

It was clearly stated on the web page that the miner had a fee. And the shown rates were with fee deducted, so no user was tricked into anything. Code is not based on anything other, I wrote it myself from scratch.

follow the SA thread there is some one working on it but it is that time of year you know xmass  so hes doing what he can.

THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--

And that is after the dev fee reduction.  I am mining WITH the dev fee.  This is the best miner for AMD/Linux.  The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.

You add it up.       --scryptr

Very bad.. optiminer was almost as good as claymore.. only few sols less
Maybe someone can tell how to get private subscription?

because of some stupid and greedy idiots like minerzec hundreds of people found a headache 

CLAYMORE FOR WIN/AMD--

Chatter is that if you add the dev fee (about 10%) and miner net, Optiminer's performance is still short of Claymore's miner net.  Optiminer has been cracked, and miners with the cracked Optiminer can calculate the size of the dev fee.

Optiminer is good software, really.  If the developer had been more honest about the actual size of the dev fee, there would have been less incentive to crack the software.

I am still mining with the dev fee.  Maybe open source will catch up.       --scryptr

WHERE IS THE SILENTARMY PROGRESS? --

MBevand said that he thought that SilentArmy was nearly maxxed out.  Then he said he had real-life tasks to take care of, and has been fairly quiet.  What is it that you read that says a new version release is imminent?       --scryptr

I'm a little absent and would like to understand what miner is now in the lead for Windows.

If you check silentArmy thread you will see for yourself

And what makes you say that? I hope you are correct, but just wondering is you're pulling something out of the air, or you actually know that work on SA is in progress?

Looks like silentArmy are making progress and new release is imminent which should help you Linux guys out

Yeah.. I'm thinking the same way. And most of my rigs on linux..  Windows guys knew that they have CM at least, but linux guys have nothing atm (for SilentArmy the performance gap is big enough in compare to the top-speed miners like optiminer did).
 

That's too bad the dev left.  I think there's still a need for a really stable linux zcash miner, and this one is already super fast.  I will pay dev 15% fees if he can make this stable enough to run for over an hour without crashing a gpu on my rig.  Come back and I'll even throw in some sexcoins (but you will have to contact the fugitive 'Big Vern' of Cryptsy to get those).